RE: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY
That is not like my Logitech K780. When I am using my Windows laptop the keys from left to right are Control, FN, Windows Key and Alt When I use it with iOS it is Control, FN, Option and Command. Clearly the Windows Key = Options and the Alt key = Command at least on this keyboard. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2021 10:03 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY I see we are discovering that this varies based on who designs the keyboard we use. I have a keyboard that pairs with iOS, android and windows. My bottom left keys are: ctrl, fn command option - Original Message - From: Gerardo Corripio<mailto:gera1...@gmail.com> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2021 5:48 PM Subject: RE: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY I’ve always known that Alt=Command, and Option?where the Windows key would be between Command and Control, or in some keyboards like on my Elle-Gate, you’ve the Command or Alt, going left Option or Windows, another left Function, and the most-left one, is the Control key. Good luck! Enviado desde Correo<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> para Windows 10 De: Simon A Fogarty<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com> Enviado: jueves, 13 de mayo de 2021 06:32 p. m. Para: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Asunto: RE: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY Sorry no, Option key is the alt key on a windows keyboard, Windows key and command key are the same ones. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio Sent: Friday, 14 May 2021 7:45 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY The Control+Omtion combo is the VO one: Option is the same as the Windows key on the Pc keyboard; whereas the ALT is the Command key. Hope this helps! Gera Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel > El 13 may 2021, a la(s) 2:39 p.m., Joe Orozco escribió: > > Hi, can someone please take me back to fundamentals and help me > understand what makes up a VO command on a QWERTY keyboard? I recently > tested a Mantis Q40 where the bottom row of keys was: Left CTRL, > Function, Windows, and Left Alt. > > Now, if I'm understanding correctly, the CTRL is called the Command > key in Apple world. The Alt key is called Option. I thought using > Command plus Option made up the VO key. > > Yet, earlier today I was reading an article where it said you should > use Command with VO to perform certain functions. So, maybe I am > completely off. I find navigating with VO on a keyboard more difficult > than it needs to be. Now, I did switch the VO key to my Caps key in > iOS, but I don't like feeling dumb about how to manipulate my phone > using the traditional VO keys. If someone could enlighten me, I would > be very appreciative. > > Thanks, > > Joe > > > -- > Joe Orozco: Your Message, My Mission > https://joeorozco.com/services/ > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAJNA4bmW%3DeaJnhZ7sX88YbRoQRTVThX99LBBYJn00UVgR01xTQ%40mail.gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
RE: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY
Simon, Richard is correct, I have a Logitech K780 which is a Windows keyboard but automatically detects which OS is used and adjusts accordingly. If I switch it to my iPhone and start keyboard help, pressing the Alt key announces Command and pressing the Windows key announces Option. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2021 4:52 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY Richard, I’m sitting here writing on a mac book air running windows 10 Remember that on the mac keyboard The layout from left to right on the bottom row, Fn, ctrl,alt (option), command (windows), If this was a windows keyboard then you could have only 3 keys on the bottom row, That would be CTRL, widnows key, alt, Some windows machines have 4 keys and can be either, Ctrl, fn, windows, alt, Or fn, ctrl windows, alt. What I’d suggest you do on your Logitech keyboard is to put it / the device in to keyboard help mode and then press the keys to know which one is which, hth From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Friday, 14 May 2021 11:35 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY Well, this is me writing on the Logitech K860 Ergonomic keyboard which is designed first for Windows I believe. So, for me, using this on my iPhone, Windows key equals options. Alt key equals command. I demonstrated that to myself by using the next or prior word command which is options plus left or right arrow when quickNav is off. Writing this email, If I press Windows Key plus left or right arrow I move by word. If I press alt plus left or right arrow, nothing happens. So I guess it is really important to know if they are using a Apple keyboard with Windows, or a Windows keyboard with an Apple device. It is lovely how confusing this can be. Richard "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com> On May 13, 2021, at 4:19 PM, Simon A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote: Richard, Not right sorry, Ctrol as you say is ctrl, Alt is option Windows is command, Function is function, That's why when using a mac keyboard for windows you use command for windows And option for alt, Vise versa on a windows keyboard type. You had it pretty right just inverted. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Friday, 14 May 2021 8:52 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY Sure. Control key is always Control whether on Windows, Mac, or iOS. I always thought Alt was Options, but it is probably Command, and Windows equals Options. So, windows+control+spacebar would be the VO command for double tap. Richard "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what they become by it." - John Ruskin, 1819-1900 Web site: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7Cf9524d27ee23432421db08d916659070%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637565447730376418%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=39NCkHZA70mMm%2FULeT0dHU5bGX2SsedZjwWEtrB8Jxg%3Dreserved=0 -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Joe Orozco Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2021 12:39 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY Hi, can someone please take me back to fundamentals and help me understand what makes up a VO command on a QWERTY keyboard? I recently tested a Mantis Q40 where the bottom row of keys was: Left CTRL, Function, Windows, and Left Alt. Now, if I'm understanding correctly, the CTRL is called the Command key in Apple world. The Alt key is called Option. I thought using Command plus Option made up the VO key. Yet, earlier today I was reading an article where it said you should use Command with VO to perform certain functions. So, maybe I am completely off. I find navigating with VO on a keyboard more difficult than it needs to be. Now, I did switch the VO key to my Caps key in iOS, but I don't like feeling dumb about how to manipulate my phone using the traditional VO keys. If someone could enlighten me, I would be very appreciative. Thanks, Joe -- Joe Orozco: Your Message, My Mission https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fjoeorozco.com%2Fservices%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7Cf9524d27ee23432421db08d916659070%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637565447730376418%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC
Re: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY
I see we are discovering that this varies based on who designs the keyboard we use. I have a keyboard that pairs with iOS, android and windows. My bottom left keys are: ctrl, fn command option - Original Message - From: Gerardo Corripio To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2021 5:48 PM Subject: RE: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY I’ve always known that Alt=Command, and Option?where the Windows key would be between Command and Control, or in some keyboards like on my Elle-Gate, you’ve the Command or Alt, going left Option or Windows, another left Function, and the most-left one, is the Control key. Good luck! Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10 De: Simon A Fogarty Enviado: jueves, 13 de mayo de 2021 06:32 p. m. Para: viphone@googlegroups.com Asunto: RE: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY Sorry no, Option key is the alt key on a windows keyboard, Windows key and command key are the same ones. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio Sent: Friday, 14 May 2021 7:45 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY The Control+Omtion combo is the VO one: Option is the same as the Windows key on the Pc keyboard; whereas the ALT is the Command key. Hope this helps! Gera Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel > El 13 may 2021, a la(s) 2:39 p.m., Joe Orozco escribió: > > Hi, can someone please take me back to fundamentals and help me > understand what makes up a VO command on a QWERTY keyboard? I recently > tested a Mantis Q40 where the bottom row of keys was: Left CTRL, > Function, Windows, and Left Alt. > > Now, if I'm understanding correctly, the CTRL is called the Command > key in Apple world. The Alt key is called Option. I thought using > Command plus Option made up the VO key. > > Yet, earlier today I was reading an article where it said you should > use Command with VO to perform certain functions. So, maybe I am > completely off. I find navigating with VO on a keyboard more difficult > than it needs to be. Now, I did switch the VO key to my Caps key in > iOS, but I don't like feeling dumb about how to manipulate my phone > using the traditional VO keys. If someone could enlighten me, I would > be very appreciative. > > Thanks, > > Joe > > > -- > Joe Orozco: Your Message, My Mission > https://joeorozco.com/services/ > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAJNA4bmW%3DeaJnhZ7sX88YbRoQRTVThX99LBBYJn00UVgR01xTQ%40mail.gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/A49EFCEA-3A09-4559-94ED-79B4991DD139%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moder
RE: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY
Richard, I’m sitting here writing on a mac book air running windows 10 Remember that on the mac keyboard The layout from left to right on the bottom row, Fn, ctrl,alt (option), command (windows), If this was a windows keyboard then you could have only 3 keys on the bottom row, That would be CTRL, widnows key, alt, Some windows machines have 4 keys and can be either, Ctrl, fn, windows, alt, Or fn, ctrl windows, alt. What I’d suggest you do on your Logitech keyboard is to put it / the device in to keyboard help mode and then press the keys to know which one is which, hth From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Friday, 14 May 2021 11:35 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY Well, this is me writing on the Logitech K860 Ergonomic keyboard which is designed first for Windows I believe. So, for me, using this on my iPhone, Windows key equals options. Alt key equals command. I demonstrated that to myself by using the next or prior word command which is options plus left or right arrow when quickNav is off. Writing this email, If I press Windows Key plus left or right arrow I move by word. If I press alt plus left or right arrow, nothing happens. So I guess it is really important to know if they are using a Apple keyboard with Windows, or a Windows keyboard with an Apple device. It is lovely how confusing this can be. Richard "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com> On May 13, 2021, at 4:19 PM, Simon A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote: Richard, Not right sorry, Ctrol as you say is ctrl, Alt is option Windows is command, Function is function, That's why when using a mac keyboard for windows you use command for windows And option for alt, Vise versa on a windows keyboard type. You had it pretty right just inverted. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Friday, 14 May 2021 8:52 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY Sure. Control key is always Control whether on Windows, Mac, or iOS. I always thought Alt was Options, but it is probably Command, and Windows equals Options. So, windows+control+spacebar would be the VO command for double tap. Richard "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what they become by it." - John Ruskin, 1819-1900 Web site: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7Cf9524d27ee23432421db08d916659070%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637565447730376418%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=39NCkHZA70mMm%2FULeT0dHU5bGX2SsedZjwWEtrB8Jxg%3Dreserved=0 -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Joe Orozco Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2021 12:39 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY Hi, can someone please take me back to fundamentals and help me understand what makes up a VO command on a QWERTY keyboard? I recently tested a Mantis Q40 where the bottom row of keys was: Left CTRL, Function, Windows, and Left Alt. Now, if I'm understanding correctly, the CTRL is called the Command key in Apple world. The Alt key is called Option. I thought using Command plus Option made up the VO key. Yet, earlier today I was reading an article where it said you should use Command with VO to perform certain functions. So, maybe I am completely off. I find navigating with VO on a keyboard more difficult than it needs to be. Now, I did switch the VO key to my Caps key in iOS, but I don't like feeling dumb about how to manipulate my phone using the traditional VO keys. If someone could enlighten me, I would be very appreciative. Thanks, Joe -- Joe Orozco: Your Message, My Mission https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fjoeorozco.com%2Fservices%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7Cf9524d27ee23432421db08d916659070%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637565447730376418%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=mief5MK4QCmxeFbrZuDbvdxbmxu3QPtE%2BVH%2FEFuH2c0%3Dreserved=0 -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Tay
RE: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY
I’ve always known that Alt=Command, and Option?where the Windows key would be between Command and Control, or in some keyboards like on my Elle-Gate, you’ve the Command or Alt, going left Option or Windows, another left Function, and the most-left one, is the Control key. Good luck! Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10 De: Simon A FogartyEnviado: jueves, 13 de mayo de 2021 06:32 p. m.Para: viphone@googlegroups.comAsunto: RE: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY Sorry no,Option key is the alt key on a windows keyboard, Windows key and command key are the same ones. -Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Gerardo CorripioSent: Friday, 14 May 2021 7:45 amTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY The Control+Omtion combo is the VO one: Option is the same as the Windows key on the Pc keyboard; whereas the ALT is the Command key. Hope this helps! GeraEnviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel > El 13 may 2021, a la(s) 2:39 p.m., Joe Orozco escribió:> > Hi, can someone please take me back to fundamentals and help me > understand what makes up a VO command on a QWERTY keyboard? I recently > tested a Mantis Q40 where the bottom row of keys was: Left CTRL, > Function, Windows, and Left Alt.> > Now, if I'm understanding correctly, the CTRL is called the Command > key in Apple world. The Alt key is called Option. I thought using > Command plus Option made up the VO key.> > Yet, earlier today I was reading an article where it said you should > use Command with VO to perform certain functions. So, maybe I am > completely off. I find navigating with VO on a keyboard more difficult > than it needs to be. Now, I did switch the VO key to my Caps key in > iOS, but I don't like feeling dumb about how to manipulate my phone > using the traditional VO keys. If someone could enlighten me, I would > be very appreciative.> > Thanks,> > Joe> > > --> Joe Orozco: Your Message, My Mission> https://joeorozco.com/services/> > --> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.> > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.> > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com> > The archives for this list can be searched at:> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/> ---> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAJNA4bmW%3DeaJnhZ7sX88YbRoQRTVThX99LBBYJn00UVgR01xTQ%40mail.gmail.com. --The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/---You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/A49EFCEA-3A09-4559-94ED-79B4991DD139%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/SY4PR01MB70262C822A9F15AEA054FA868A519%40SY4PR01MB7026.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com. -- The following information
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Well, this is me writing on the Logitech K860 Ergonomic keyboard which is designed first for Windows I believe. So, for me, using this on my iPhone, Windows key equals options. Alt key equals command. I demonstrated that to myself by using the next or prior word command which is options plus left or right arrow when quickNav is off. Writing this email, If I press Windows Key plus left or right arrow I move by word. If I press alt plus left or right arrow, nothing happens. So I guess it is really important to know if they are using a Apple keyboard with Windows, or a Windows keyboard with an Apple device. It is lovely how confusing this can be. Richard "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt www.turner42.com On May 13, 2021, at 4:19 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote: Richard, Not right sorry, Ctrol as you say is ctrl, Alt is option Windows is command, Function is function, That's why when using a mac keyboard for windows you use command for windows And option for alt, Vise versa on a windows keyboard type. You had it pretty right just inverted. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Friday, 14 May 2021 8:52 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY Sure. Control key is always Control whether on Windows, Mac, or iOS. I always thought Alt was Options, but it is probably Command, and Windows equals Options. So, windows+control+spacebar would be the VO command for double tap. Richard "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what they become by it." - John Ruskin, 1819-1900 Web site: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7Cf9524d27ee23432421db08d916659070%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637565447730376418%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=39NCkHZA70mMm%2FULeT0dHU5bGX2SsedZjwWEtrB8Jxg%3Dreserved=0 -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Joe Orozco Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2021 12:39 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY Hi, can someone please take me back to fundamentals and help me understand what makes up a VO command on a QWERTY keyboard? I recently tested a Mantis Q40 where the bottom row of keys was: Left CTRL, Function, Windows, and Left Alt. Now, if I'm understanding correctly, the CTRL is called the Command key in Apple world. The Alt key is called Option. I thought using Command plus Option made up the VO key. Yet, earlier today I was reading an article where it said you should use Command with VO to perform certain functions. So, maybe I am completely off. I find navigating with VO on a keyboard more difficult than it needs to be. Now, I did switch the VO key to my Caps key in iOS, but I don't like feeling dumb about how to manipulate my phone using the traditional VO keys. If someone could enlighten me, I would be very appreciative. Thanks, Joe -- Joe Orozco: Your Message, My Mission https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fjoeorozco.com%2Fservices%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7Cf9524d27ee23432421db08d916659070%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637565447730376418%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=mief5MK4QCmxeFbrZuDbvdxbmxu3QPtE%2BVH%2FEFuH2c0%3Dreserved=0 -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7Cf9524d27ee23432421db08d916659070%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637565447730376418%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=BCE5wzwXyojsekKQ%2BS0kEOt%2Fn8hlQuWS4svSqr4S%2BAo%3Dreserved=0 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2FCAJNA4bmW%253DeaJnhZ7sX88YbRoQRTVThX99LBBYJn00UVgR01xTQ%2540mail.gmail.comdata=04%7C01%7C%7Cf9
RE: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY
Sorry no, Option key is the alt key on a windows keyboard, Windows key and command key are the same ones. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio Sent: Friday, 14 May 2021 7:45 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY The Control+Omtion combo is the VO one: Option is the same as the Windows key on the Pc keyboard; whereas the ALT is the Command key. Hope this helps! Gera Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel > El 13 may 2021, a la(s) 2:39 p.m., Joe Orozco escribió: > > Hi, can someone please take me back to fundamentals and help me > understand what makes up a VO command on a QWERTY keyboard? I recently > tested a Mantis Q40 where the bottom row of keys was: Left CTRL, > Function, Windows, and Left Alt. > > Now, if I'm understanding correctly, the CTRL is called the Command > key in Apple world. The Alt key is called Option. I thought using > Command plus Option made up the VO key. > > Yet, earlier today I was reading an article where it said you should > use Command with VO to perform certain functions. So, maybe I am > completely off. I find navigating with VO on a keyboard more difficult > than it needs to be. Now, I did switch the VO key to my Caps key in > iOS, but I don't like feeling dumb about how to manipulate my phone > using the traditional VO keys. If someone could enlighten me, I would > be very appreciative. > > Thanks, > > Joe > > > -- > Joe Orozco: Your Message, My Mission > https://joeorozco.com/services/ > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAJNA4bmW%3DeaJnhZ7sX88YbRoQRTVThX99LBBYJn00UVgR01xTQ%40mail.gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/A49EFCEA-3A09-4559-94ED-79B4991DD139%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/SY4PR01MB70262C822A9F15AEA054FA868A519%40SY4PR01MB7026.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com.
RE: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY
Richard, Not right sorry, Ctrol as you say is ctrl, Alt is option Windows is command, Function is function, That's why when using a mac keyboard for windows you use command for windows And option for alt, Vise versa on a windows keyboard type. You had it pretty right just inverted. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Friday, 14 May 2021 8:52 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY Sure. Control key is always Control whether on Windows, Mac, or iOS. I always thought Alt was Options, but it is probably Command, and Windows equals Options. So, windows+control+spacebar would be the VO command for double tap. Richard "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what they become by it." - John Ruskin, 1819-1900 Web site: www.turner42.com -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Joe Orozco Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2021 12:39 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY Hi, can someone please take me back to fundamentals and help me understand what makes up a VO command on a QWERTY keyboard? I recently tested a Mantis Q40 where the bottom row of keys was: Left CTRL, Function, Windows, and Left Alt. Now, if I'm understanding correctly, the CTRL is called the Command key in Apple world. The Alt key is called Option. I thought using Command plus Option made up the VO key. Yet, earlier today I was reading an article where it said you should use Command with VO to perform certain functions. So, maybe I am completely off. I find navigating with VO on a keyboard more difficult than it needs to be. Now, I did switch the VO key to my Caps key in iOS, but I don't like feeling dumb about how to manipulate my phone using the traditional VO keys. If someone could enlighten me, I would be very appreciative. Thanks, Joe -- Joe Orozco: Your Message, My Mission https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fjoeorozco.com%2Fservices%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C76dd668159c04c66d6ef08d91646c2f3%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637565315431214381%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=WIWuIs14DPHkMqCoOeHtbQbt7a%2BFkW2LT6PXAKUEn20%3Dreserved=0 -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C76dd668159c04c66d6ef08d91646c2f3%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637565315431214381%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=%2FwwPdaWSBYFPcFpTJ%2F4cxUWDhVdBHw1mmwRfX0NYWxQ%3Dreserved=0 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2FCAJNA4bmW%253DeaJnhZ7sX88YbRoQRTVThX99LBBYJn00UVgR01xTQ%2540mail.gmail.comdata=04%7C01%7C%7C76dd668159c04c66d6ef08d91646c2f3%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637565315431214381%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=ijcP1AML2KBhxQB2ZvwS0UXjdeOHWLT2UjgzQXGjXUw%3Dreserved=0. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MW4PR17MB4513651266F4F6C8C901498CB7519%40MW4PR17MB4513.namprd17.prod.outlook.com. -- The foll
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Yes, you are perfectly all right! *smile). -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2021 1:52 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY Sure. Control key is always Control whether on Windows, Mac, or iOS. I always thought Alt was Options, but it is probably Command, and Windows equals Options. So, windows+control+spacebar would be the VO command for double tap. Richard "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what they become by it." - John Ruskin, 1819-1900 Web site: www.turner42.com -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Joe Orozco Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2021 12:39 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY Hi, can someone please take me back to fundamentals and help me understand what makes up a VO command on a QWERTY keyboard? I recently tested a Mantis Q40 where the bottom row of keys was: Left CTRL, Function, Windows, and Left Alt. Now, if I'm understanding correctly, the CTRL is called the Command key in Apple world. The Alt key is called Option. I thought using Command plus Option made up the VO key. Yet, earlier today I was reading an article where it said you should use Command with VO to perform certain functions. So, maybe I am completely off. I find navigating with VO on a keyboard more difficult than it needs to be. Now, I did switch the VO key to my Caps key in iOS, but I don't like feeling dumb about how to manipulate my phone using the traditional VO keys. If someone could enlighten me, I would be very appreciative. Thanks, Joe -- Joe Orozco: Your Message, My Mission https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fjoeorozco.com%2Fservices%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C76dd668159c04c66d6ef08d91646c2f3%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637565315431214381%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=WIWuIs14DPHkMqCoOeHtbQbt7a%2BFkW2LT6PXAKUEn20%3Dreserved=0 -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C76dd668159c04c66d6ef08d91646c2f3%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637565315431214381%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=%2FwwPdaWSBYFPcFpTJ%2F4cxUWDhVdBHw1mmwRfX0NYWxQ%3Dreserved=0 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2FCAJNA4bmW%253DeaJnhZ7sX88YbRoQRTVThX99LBBYJn00UVgR01xTQ%2540mail.gmail.comdata=04%7C01%7C%7C76dd668159c04c66d6ef08d91646c2f3%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637565315431214381%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=ijcP1AML2KBhxQB2ZvwS0UXjdeOHWLT2UjgzQXGjXUw%3Dreserved=0. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MW4PR17MB4513651266F4F6C8C901498CB7519%40MW4PR17MB4513.namprd17.prod.outlook.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather t
RE: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY
Sure. Control key is always Control whether on Windows, Mac, or iOS. I always thought Alt was Options, but it is probably Command, and Windows equals Options. So, windows+control+spacebar would be the VO command for double tap. Richard "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what they become by it." - John Ruskin, 1819-1900 Web site: www.turner42.com -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Joe Orozco Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2021 12:39 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY Hi, can someone please take me back to fundamentals and help me understand what makes up a VO command on a QWERTY keyboard? I recently tested a Mantis Q40 where the bottom row of keys was: Left CTRL, Function, Windows, and Left Alt. Now, if I'm understanding correctly, the CTRL is called the Command key in Apple world. The Alt key is called Option. I thought using Command plus Option made up the VO key. Yet, earlier today I was reading an article where it said you should use Command with VO to perform certain functions. So, maybe I am completely off. I find navigating with VO on a keyboard more difficult than it needs to be. Now, I did switch the VO key to my Caps key in iOS, but I don't like feeling dumb about how to manipulate my phone using the traditional VO keys. If someone could enlighten me, I would be very appreciative. Thanks, Joe -- Joe Orozco: Your Message, My Mission https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fjoeorozco.com%2Fservices%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C76dd668159c04c66d6ef08d91646c2f3%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637565315431214381%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=WIWuIs14DPHkMqCoOeHtbQbt7a%2BFkW2LT6PXAKUEn20%3Dreserved=0 -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C76dd668159c04c66d6ef08d91646c2f3%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637565315431214381%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=%2FwwPdaWSBYFPcFpTJ%2F4cxUWDhVdBHw1mmwRfX0NYWxQ%3Dreserved=0 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2FCAJNA4bmW%253DeaJnhZ7sX88YbRoQRTVThX99LBBYJn00UVgR01xTQ%2540mail.gmail.comdata=04%7C01%7C%7C76dd668159c04c66d6ef08d91646c2f3%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637565315431214381%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=ijcP1AML2KBhxQB2ZvwS0UXjdeOHWLT2UjgzQXGjXUw%3Dreserved=0. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MW4PR17MB4513651266F4F6C8C901498CB7519%40MW4PR17MB4513.namprd17.prod.outlook.com.
Re: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY
The Control+Omtion combo is the VO one: Option is the same as the Windows key on the Pc keyboard; whereas the ALT is the Command key. Hope this helps! Gera Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel > El 13 may 2021, a la(s) 2:39 p.m., Joe Orozco escribió: > > Hi, can someone please take me back to fundamentals and help me > understand what makes up a VO command on a QWERTY keyboard? I recently > tested a Mantis Q40 where the bottom row of keys was: Left CTRL, > Function, Windows, and Left Alt. > > Now, if I'm understanding correctly, the CTRL is called the Command > key in Apple world. The Alt key is called Option. I thought using > Command plus Option made up the VO key. > > Yet, earlier today I was reading an article where it said you should > use Command with VO to perform certain functions. So, maybe I am > completely off. I find navigating with VO on a keyboard more difficult > than it needs to be. Now, I did switch the VO key to my Caps key in > iOS, but I don't like feeling dumb about how to manipulate my phone > using the traditional VO keys. If someone could enlighten me, I would > be very appreciative. > > Thanks, > > Joe > > > -- > Joe Orozco: Your Message, My Mission > https://joeorozco.com/services/ > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAJNA4bmW%3DeaJnhZ7sX88YbRoQRTVThX99LBBYJn00UVgR01xTQ%40mail.gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/A49EFCEA-3A09-4559-94ED-79B4991DD139%40gmail.com.
