RE: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books

[R Van Lant]

When I had to restore my phone, BARD books had not been backed up to the Cloud. 
So, the best way to find what I wanted was to go into the recently downloaded 
option under Get books and find any book I wanted to add again.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 9:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books

I don't know how Apple Music handles things, but I know that an iTunes backup 
never backed up music. When I restored from the backup of my iPhone 5 to the 
iPhone six, it had to retrieve the actual music tracks from the music on my 
computer, not from the backup itself. If you are talking about music in Apple 
music, I'll bet those tracks will stream from the cloud, you will have to 
download them again if you want them downloaded. If you are talking about 
tracks that you put onto your phone yourself, it seems that they would have 
been restored from your computer. Otherwise, unless you have iTunes Match and 
they are in the cloud, they are probably gone. I hope not.

Arnold Schmidt

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Sep 27, 2021, at 10:59 AM, Malcolm Parfitt 
mailto:malc...@parfitt1.org.uk>> wrote:
If you’re using Apple Music then What I suspect is that all your albums have 
been restored to your library but their contents have not been downloaded.

I think this is what happened to me although this was some time ago.
Malcolm Parfitt


On 27 Sep 2021, at 15:52, Amy Ruell 
mailto:aru...@comcast.net>> wrote:

I have a lot of downloaded music but it is not showing up.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 10:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books
I had to upgrade to IOS 15 because that is what came on the new phone I 
purchased.
Amy


If you are streaming music, and have not downloaded it, the Settings, general, 
About, will not show any songs, because none are on the device.
I suspect the music app will show what is available, but available when online, 
as Malcolm said.





Richard
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Jane Wagner

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Malcolm Parfitt
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 4:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books

You don’t have to download music to play it provided you have an internet 
connection.

If you want to play music when you are offline or you don’t want to use up your 
data allowance then the music has to be downloaded.

Sometimes I want to play music when not on wifi and at the time I had a limited 
data allowance so I would download music but now my plan is unlimited I don’t 
bother.
Malcolm Parfitt

On 27 Sep 2021, at 12:22, Amy Ruell 
mailto:aru...@comcast.net>> wrote:

Hello,
That’s what I would’ve thought as well, however, I don’t have to download the 
music to play it.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 27, 2021, at 7:19 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
 That is why I do the direct wireless transfer from the old phone to the new.
I have over 12000 songs on my phone and when the transfer was pinished in under 
an hour they were all on the new phone.
If you used iTunes with a USB cable you would have had to wait several hours 
for the songs to finish transfering.
You may have to do a full sync with your computer to get them all on the phone.
Good luck.
You could also call Apple Accessibility to get some assistance if needed.


Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





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(Sent by a blue iPhone 13 Pro)

On Sep 27, 2021, at 3:59 AM, Malcolm Parfitt 
mailto:malc...@parfitt1.org.uk>> wrote:
It sounds like the albums are in your library but the songs are not actually 
downloaded.

If you double-tap on an album you should have a Download Button.  Double-tap 
Download then your phone should report that you have songs stored on it.

Malcolm Parfitt


On 27 Sep 2021, at 11:55, Amy Ruell 
mailto:aru...@comcast.net>> wrote:

Hello,
Oddly, if I go to music on my phone, I see albums there. However, the songs 
list on the phone its self under settings and about says songs zero.
Amy

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 27, 2021, at 6:05 AM, Pete Nalda 
mailto:lpna...@gmail.com>> wrote:

As for music, make sure iCloud syncing for music is turned on.

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
Louie P (Pete) Nalda
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On Sep 27, 2021, at 4:56 AM, Joshua Hendrickson 

RE: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Well then at least they are working on it and it will happen sooner or later.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: September 27, 2021 9:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books

Hi Sieghard,

BARD Support is well aware of the shortcomings of the existing system regarding 
the inability of previously downloaded BARD books to transfer to a new iDevice. 
They are in process of converting to a cloud based system which will address 
this issue but it's going to take some time.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone with Outlook for iOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Sieghard 
Weitzel 
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 10:17:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books

And have you contacted NLS and requested that Bard books should backup to 
iCloud so they will be restored to a new device?
Anyways, I thought if you have them in Voice Dream Reader that it can back up 
to iCloud?
As for keeping your iPhone 8 forever I am afraid that unfortunately won't be 
possible, I don't think once you get to around 6 or 7 years you'll have much 
joy with it.

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Sent: September 27, 2021 2:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books

That is a big negative on the bard books for sure.  I have no idea about the 
music.  That not transferring of bard books is so annoying.
I will be keeping my iPhone 8 forever as long as NLS won't transfer or backup 
your bard books to a new iPhone or other device like an iPad or any other 
device.  It is so frustrating.

On 9/27/21, Amy Ruell  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I updated to IOS 15 and set up my new phone to use a stored backup. I
> have no songs listed and no BARD books. Is there a way to restore these?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Amy
>
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Re: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Sieghard,

BARD Support is well aware of the shortcomings of the existing system regarding 
the inability of previously downloaded BARD books to transfer to a new iDevice. 
They are in process of converting to a cloud based system which will address 
this issue but it's going to take some time.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone with Outlook for iOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Sieghard 
Weitzel 
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 10:17:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books

And have you contacted NLS and requested that Bard books should backup to 
iCloud so they will be restored to a new device?
Anyways, I thought if you have them in Voice Dream Reader that it can back up 
to iCloud?
As for keeping your iPhone 8 forever I am afraid that unfortunately won't be 
possible, I don't think once you get to around 6 or 7 years you'll have much 
joy with it.

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Sent: September 27, 2021 2:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books

That is a big negative on the bard books for sure.  I have no idea about the 
music.  That not transferring of bard books is so annoying.
I will be keeping my iPhone 8 forever as long as NLS won't transfer or backup 
your bard books to a new iPhone or other device like an iPad or any other 
device.  It is so frustrating.

On 9/27/21, Amy Ruell  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I updated to IOS 15 and set up my new phone to use a stored backup. I
> have no songs listed and no BARD books. Is there a way to restore these?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Amy
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RE: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books

[Richard Turner]

Well, doing the phone to phone wireless transfer copied the 12,000  plus songs 
from my old SE 2020 to the 13 pro with no problems.

If you now sync with your phone via iTunes, and have sync music checked, you 
should get it back from your computer's iTunes sync.



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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Amy Ruell
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 8:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books

Hi,
No, NLS has its own app, BARD.
Thanks.
Amy


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 11:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books

And have you contacted NLS and requested that Bard books should backup to 
iCloud so they will be restored to a new device?
Anyways, I thought if you have them in Voice Dream Reader that it can back up 
to iCloud?
As for keeping your iPhone 8 forever I am afraid that unfortunately won't be 
possible, I don't think once you get to around 6 or 7 years you'll have much 
joy with it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: September 27, 2021 2:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books

That is a big negative on the bard books for sure.  I have no idea about the 
music.  That not transferring of bard books is so annoying.
I will be keeping my iPhone 8 forever as long as NLS won't transfer or backup 
your bard books to a new iPhone or other device like an iPad or any other 
device.  It is so frustrating.

On 9/27/21, Amy Ruell  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I updated to IOS 15 and set up my new phone to use a stored backup. I 
> have no songs listed and no BARD books. Is there a way to restore these?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Amy
>
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RE: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books

[Sieghard Weitzel]

They don't hav eto back up your music if it is music available via Apple Music, 
but they should backup the state of the flag which indicates whether a track or 
album is downloaded to your device and when you restore then any music you had 
previously downloaded should also get downloaded again without a lengthy manual 
process. Anyways, it seems that with Quick Transfer any music you had 
downloaded is transferred to your new device so that would definitely be the 
way to go.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: September 27, 2021 8:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books

It is much more efficient on their end. Why should they back up the tracks you 
have on your specific device when they already have those tracks somewhere else 
in their system? As for your case, if the music you had on your phone is on the 
computer where you had the backup, it should have transferred it again from 
your computer's music folder onto your new phone.

Arnold Schmidt

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Sep 27, 2021, at 11:40 AM, Amy Ruell  wrote:

Called Apple support, they say that music doesn’t download to your device 
automatically from one Iphone to another. Doesn’t seem very efficient, but.  I 
backed up through Itunes.
Amy



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 10:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books

Right.
Was the stored backup on your computer or iCloud?

If iCloud, I have no idea.  Unless you took advantage of the extra storage with 
iOS 15 for backups and did a backup again under 15 to get everything backed up, 
then iCloud doesn’t do the music.

If you did it via USB and your computer, as I said before, you have to leave it 
plugged in an extra long time until all the files are copied which is almost 
impossible to tell easily with a screen reader.  Even then, in the past, I had 
to sync again after restoring from a backup to get all my music over.

If all else fails, ask the Apple Accessibility team, 877-240-3930.  When I 
called Saturday evening, I only had about a 30 second wait to talk with someone.

Best of luck,



Richard
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Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Amy 
Ruell
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 7:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books

I have a lot of downloaded music but it is not showing up.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 10:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books
I had to upgrade to IOS 15 because that is what came on the new phone I 
purchased.
Amy


If you are streaming music, and have not downloaded it, the Settings, general, 
About, will not show any songs, because none are on the device.
I suspect the music app will show what is available, but available when online, 
as Malcolm said.





Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: 
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Malcolm Parfitt
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 4:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books

You don’t have to download music to play it provided you have an internet 
connection.

If you want to play music when you are offline or you don’t want to use up your 
data allowance then the music has to be downloaded.

Sometimes I want to play music when not on wifi and at the time I had a limited 
data allowance so I would download music but now my plan is unlimited I don’t 
bother.
Malcolm Parfitt

On 27 Sep 2021, at 12:22, Amy Ruell 
mailto:aru...@comcast.net>> wrote:

Hello,
That’s what I would’ve thought as well, however, I don’t have to download the 
music to play it.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 27, 2021, at 7:19 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
 That is why I do the direct wireless transfer from the old phone to the new.
I have over 

Re: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books

[Arnold Schmidt]

It is much more efficient on their end. Why should they back up the tracks you 
have on your specific device when they already have those tracks somewhere else 
in their system? As for your case, if the music you had on your phone is on the 
computer where you had the backup, it should have transferred it again from 
your computer's music folder onto your new phone. 

Arnold Schmidt 


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Sep 27, 2021, at 11:40 AM, Amy Ruell  wrote:


Called Apple support, they say that music doesn’t download to your device 
automatically from one Iphone to another. Doesn’t seem very efficient, but.  I 
backed up through Itunes.
Amy
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 10:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books
 
Right.
Was the stored backup on your computer or iCloud?
 
If iCloud, I have no idea.  Unless you took advantage of the extra storage with 
iOS 15 for backups and did a backup again under 15 to get everything backed up, 
then iCloud doesn’t do the music.
 
If you did it via USB and your computer, as I said before, you have to leave it 
plugged in an extra long time until all the files are copied which is almost 
impossible to tell easily with a screen reader.  Even then, in the past, I had 
to sync again after restoring from a backup to get all my music over.
 
If all else fails, ask the Apple Accessibility team, 877-240-3930.  When I 
called Saturday evening, I only had about a 30 second wait to talk with someone.
 
Best of luck,
 
 
 
Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner
 
My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Amy Ruell
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 7:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books
 
I have a lot of downloaded music but it is not showing up.
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 10:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books
I had to upgrade to IOS 15 because that is what came on the new phone I 
purchased.
Amy
 
 
If you are streaming music, and have not downloaded it, the Settings, general, 
About, will not show any songs, because none are on the device.
I suspect the music app will show what is available, but available when online, 
as Malcolm said.
 
 
 
 
 
Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner
 
My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Malcolm 
Parfitt
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 4:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books
 
You don’t have to download music to play it provided you have an internet 
connection.
 
If you want to play music when you are offline or you don’t want to use up your 
data allowance then the music has to be downloaded.
 
Sometimes I want to play music when not on wifi and at the time I had a limited 
data allowance so I would download music but now my plan is unlimited I don’t 
bother.

Malcolm Parfitt
 

On 27 Sep 2021, at 12:22, Amy Ruell  wrote:


Hello,
That’s what I would’ve thought as well, however, I don’t have to download the 
music to play it.
 
Sent from my iPhone
 

On Sep 27, 2021, at 7:19 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:

 That is why I do the direct wireless transfer from the old phone to the new.
I have over 12000 songs on my phone and when the transfer was pinished in under 
an hour they were all on the new phone.
If you used iTunes with a USB cable you would have had to wait several hours 
for the songs to finish transfering.
You may have to do a full sync with your computer to get them all on the phone.
Good luck.
You could also call Apple Accessibility to get some assistance if needed.
 

 
Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner 
  
 
 
 
 
website:  www.turner42.com
 
(Sent by a blue iPhone 13 Pro)
 

On Sep 27, 2021, at 3:59 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:

It sounds like the albums are in your library but the songs are not actually 
downloaded.

If you double-tap on an album you should have a Download Button.  Double-tap 
Download then your phone should report that you have songs stored on it.

Malcolm Parfitt

On 27 Sep 2021, at 11:55, Amy Ruell  wrote:
 
Hello,
Oddly, if I go to music on my phone, I see albums there. However, the songs 
list on the phone its self under settings and about says songs zero.
Amy
 
Sent from my iPhone
 
On Sep 27, 2021, at 6:05 AM, Pete Nalda  wrote:
 
As for music, make sure iCloud syncing for music is turned on.
 
Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
Louie P (Pete) Nalda
Facebook.com/lpnalda
Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
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RE: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books

[Amy Ruell]

Hi,
No, NLS has its own app, BARD.
Thanks.
Amy


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Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 11:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books

And have you contacted NLS and requested that Bard books should backup to 
iCloud so they will be restored to a new device?
Anyways, I thought if you have them in Voice Dream Reader that it can back up 
to iCloud?
As for keeping your iPhone 8 forever I am afraid that unfortunately won't be 
possible, I don't think once you get to around 6 or 7 years you'll have much 
joy with it.

-Original Message-
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Hendrickson
Sent: September 27, 2021 2:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books

That is a big negative on the bard books for sure.  I have no idea about the 
music.  That not transferring of bard books is so annoying.
I will be keeping my iPhone 8 forever as long as NLS won't transfer or backup 
your bard books to a new iPhone or other device like an iPad or any other 
device.  It is so frustrating.

On 9/27/21, Amy Ruell  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I updated to IOS 15 and set up my new phone to use a stored backup. I 
> have no songs listed and no BARD books. Is there a way to restore these?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Amy
>
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RE: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books

[Amy Ruell]

Called Apple support, they say that music doesn’t download to your device 
automatically from one Iphone to another. Doesn’t seem very efficient, but.  I 
backed up through Itunes.

Amy

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 10:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books

 

Right.

Was the stored backup on your computer or iCloud?

 

If iCloud, I have no idea.  Unless you took advantage of the extra storage with 
iOS 15 for backups and did a backup again under 15 to get everything backed up, 
then iCloud doesn’t do the music.

 

If you did it via USB and your computer, as I said before, you have to leave it 
plugged in an extra long time until all the files are copied which is almost 
impossible to tell easily with a screen reader.  Even then, in the past, I had 
to sync again after restoring from a backup to get all my music over.

 

If all else fails, ask the Apple Accessibility team, 877-240-3930.  When I 
called Saturday evening, I only had about a 30 second wait to talk with someone.

 

Best of luck,

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site:   https://www.turner42.com

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Amy 
Ruell
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 7:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books

 

I have a lot of downloaded music but it is not showing up.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 10:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books

I had to upgrade to IOS 15 because that is what came on the new phone I 
purchased.

Amy

 

 

If you are streaming music, and have not downloaded it, the Settings, general, 
About, will not show any songs, because none are on the device.

I suspect the music app will show what is available, but available when online, 
as Malcolm said.

 

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site:  

 https://www.turner42.com

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Malcolm Parfitt
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 4:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books

 

You don’t have to download music to play it provided you have an internet 
connection.

 

If you want to play music when you are offline or you don’t want to use up your 
data allowance then the music has to be downloaded.

 

Sometimes I want to play music when not on wifi and at the time I had a limited 
data allowance so I would download music but now my plan is unlimited I don’t 
bother.

Malcolm Parfitt

 

On 27 Sep 2021, at 12:22, Amy Ruell mailto:aru...@comcast.net> > wrote:



Hello,

That’s what I would’ve thought as well, however, I don’t have to download the 
music to play it.

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Sep 27, 2021, at 7:19 AM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 That is why I do the direct wireless transfer from the old phone to the new. 

I have over 12000 songs on my phone and when the transfer was pinished in under 
an hour they were all on the new phone.

If you used iTunes with a USB cable you would have had to wait several hours 
for the songs to finish transfering.

You may have to do a full sync with your computer to get them all on the phone.

Good luck.

You could also call Apple Accessibility to get some assistance if needed.

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner 

  

 

 

 

 

website:  www.turner42.com 

 

 

(Sent by a blue iPhone 13 Pro)

 

On Sep 27, 2021, at 3:59 AM, Malcolm Parfitt 

Re: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books

[Arnold Schmidt]

I don't know how Apple Music handles things, but I know that an iTunes backup 
never backed up music. When I restored from the backup of my iPhone 5 to the 
iPhone six, it had to retrieve the actual music tracks from the music on my 
computer, not from the backup itself. If you are talking about music in Apple 
music, I'll bet those tracks will stream from the cloud, you will have to 
download them again if you want them downloaded. If you are talking about 
tracks that you put onto your phone yourself, it seems that they would have 
been restored from your computer. Otherwise, unless you have iTunes Match and 
they are in the cloud, they are probably gone. I hope not. 

Arnold Schmidt 


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Sep 27, 2021, at 10:59 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:

If you’re using Apple Music then What I suspect is that all your albums have 
been restored to your library but their contents have not been downloaded.

I think this is what happened to me although this was some time ago.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 27 Sep 2021, at 15:52, Amy Ruell  wrote:
> 
> I have a lot of downloaded music but it is not showing up.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 10:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books
> I had to upgrade to IOS 15 because that is what came on the new phone I 
> purchased.
> Amy
>  
>  
> If you are streaming music, and have not downloaded it, the Settings, 
> general, About, will not show any songs, because none are on the device.
> I suspect the music app will show what is available, but available when 
> online, as Malcolm said.
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
> – Jane Wagner
>  
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 4:56 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books
>  
> You don’t have to download music to play it provided you have an internet 
> connection.
>  
> If you want to play music when you are offline or you don’t want to use up 
> your data allowance then the music has to be downloaded.
>  
> Sometimes I want to play music when not on wifi and at the time I had a 
> limited data allowance so I would download music but now my plan is unlimited 
> I don’t bother.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
>  
> 
> On 27 Sep 2021, at 12:22, Amy Ruell  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello,
> That’s what I would’ve thought as well, however, I don’t have to download the 
> music to play it.
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
> 
> On Sep 27, 2021, at 7:19 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  That is why I do the direct wireless transfer from the old phone to the new.
> I have over 12000 songs on my phone and when the transfer was pinished in 
> under an hour they were all on the new phone.
> If you used iTunes with a USB cable you would have had to wait several hours 
> for the songs to finish transfering.
> You may have to do a full sync with your computer to get them all on the 
> phone.
> Good luck.
> You could also call Apple Accessibility to get some assistance if needed.
>  
> 
>  
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> -- Jane Wagner 
>   
>  
>  
>  
>  
> website:  www.turner42.com
>  
> (Sent by a blue iPhone 13 Pro)
>  
> 
> On Sep 27, 2021, at 3:59 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
> 
> It sounds like the albums are in your library but the songs are not actually 
> downloaded.
> 
> If you double-tap on an album you should have a Download Button.  Double-tap 
> Download then your phone should report that you have songs stored on it.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> 
> 
> On 27 Sep 2021, at 11:55, Amy Ruell  wrote:
>  
> Hello,
> Oddly, if I go to music on my phone, I see albums there. However, the songs 
> list on the phone its self under settings and about says songs zero.
> Amy
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
> On Sep 27, 2021, at 6:05 AM, Pete Nalda  wrote:
>  
> As for music, make sure iCloud syncing for music is turned on.
>  
> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
> Louie P (Pete) Nalda
> Facebook.com/lpnalda
> Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
> Twitter: @lpnalda
>  
> On Sep 27, 2021, at 4:56 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>  
> That is a big negative on the bard books for sure.  I have no idea
> about the music.  That not transferring of bard books is so annoying.
> I will be keeping my iPhone 8 forever as long as NLS won't transfer or
> backup your bard books to a new iPhone or other device like an iPad or
> any other device.  It is so frustrating.
>  
> On 9/27/21, Amy Ruell  wrote:
> Hello,
>  
> I updated to IOS 15 and set up my new phone to use a stored backup. I have
> no songs listed and no BARD books. Is there a way to restore these?
>  
> Thanks.
>  
> Amy
>  
>  
>  
> --
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RE: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books

[Sieghard Weitzel]

No, not unless you want to be able to play music when you have no cellular or 
WiFi connection.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Amy Ruell
Sent: September 27, 2021 4:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books

Hello,
That’s what I would’ve thought as well, however, I don’t have to download the 
music to play it.

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 27, 2021, at 7:19 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:
 That is why I do the direct wireless transfer from the old phone to the new.
I have over 12000 songs on my phone and when the transfer was pinished in under 
an hour they were all on the new phone.
If you used iTunes with a USB cable you would have had to wait several hours 
for the songs to finish transfering.
You may have to do a full sync with your computer to get them all on the phone.
Good luck.
You could also call Apple Accessibility to get some assistance if needed.


Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





website:  www.turner42.com

(Sent by a blue iPhone 13 Pro)


On Sep 27, 2021, at 3:59 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
It sounds like the albums are in your library but the songs are not actually 
downloaded.

If you double-tap on an album you should have a Download Button.  Double-tap 
Download then your phone should report that you have songs stored on it.

Malcolm Parfitt


On 27 Sep 2021, at 11:55, Amy Ruell  wrote:

Hello,
Oddly, if I go to music on my phone, I see albums there. However, the songs 
list on the phone its self under settings and about says songs zero.
Amy

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 27, 2021, at 6:05 AM, Pete Nalda  wrote:

As for music, make sure iCloud syncing for music is turned on.

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
Louie P (Pete) Nalda
Facebook.com/lpnalda
Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
Twitter: @lpnalda

On Sep 27, 2021, at 4:56 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:

That is a big negative on the bard books for sure.  I have no idea
about the music.  That not transferring of bard books is so annoying.
I will be keeping my iPhone 8 forever as long as NLS won't transfer or
backup your bard books to a new iPhone or other device like an iPad or
any other device.  It is so frustrating.

On 9/27/21, Amy Ruell  wrote:
Hello,

I updated to IOS 15 and set up my new phone to use a stored backup. I have
no songs listed and no BARD books. Is there a way to restore these?

Thanks.

Amy



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RE: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And have you contacted NLS and requested that Bard books should backup to 
iCloud so they will be restored to a new device?
Anyways, I thought if you have them in Voice Dream Reader that it can back up 
to iCloud?
As for keeping your iPhone 8 forever I am afraid that unfortunately won't be 
possible, I don't think once you get to around 6 or 7 years you'll have much 
joy with it.

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Sent: September 27, 2021 2:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books

That is a big negative on the bard books for sure.  I have no idea about the 
music.  That not transferring of bard books is so annoying.
I will be keeping my iPhone 8 forever as long as NLS won't transfer or backup 
your bard books to a new iPhone or other device like an iPad or any other 
device.  It is so frustrating.

On 9/27/21, Amy Ruell  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I updated to IOS 15 and set up my new phone to use a stored backup. I 
> have no songs listed and no BARD books. Is there a way to restore these?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Amy
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Re: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books

[Malcolm Parfitt]

If you’re using Apple Music then What I suspect is that all your albums have 
been restored to your library but their contents have not been downloaded.

I think this is what happened to me although this was some time ago.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 27 Sep 2021, at 15:52, Amy Ruell  wrote:
> 
> 
> I have a lot of downloaded music but it is not showing up.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 10:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books
> I had to upgrade to IOS 15 because that is what came on the new phone I 
> purchased.
> Amy
>  
>  
> If you are streaming music, and have not downloaded it, the Settings, 
> general, About, will not show any songs, because none are on the device.
> I suspect the music app will show what is available, but available when 
> online, as Malcolm said.
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
> – Jane Wagner
>  
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 4:56 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books
>  
> You don’t have to download music to play it provided you have an internet 
> connection.
>  
> If you want to play music when you are offline or you don’t want to use up 
> your data allowance then the music has to be downloaded.
>  
> Sometimes I want to play music when not on wifi and at the time I had a 
> limited data allowance so I would download music but now my plan is unlimited 
> I don’t bother.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
>  
> 
> On 27 Sep 2021, at 12:22, Amy Ruell  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello,
> That’s what I would’ve thought as well, however, I don’t have to download the 
> music to play it.
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
> 
> On Sep 27, 2021, at 7:19 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  That is why I do the direct wireless transfer from the old phone to the new.
> I have over 12000 songs on my phone and when the transfer was pinished in 
> under an hour they were all on the new phone.
> If you used iTunes with a USB cable you would have had to wait several hours 
> for the songs to finish transfering.
> You may have to do a full sync with your computer to get them all on the 
> phone.
> Good luck.
> You could also call Apple Accessibility to get some assistance if needed.
>  
> 
>  
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> -- Jane Wagner 
>   
>  
>  
>  
>  
> website:  www.turner42.com
>  
> (Sent by a blue iPhone 13 Pro)
>  
> 
> On Sep 27, 2021, at 3:59 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
> 
> It sounds like the albums are in your library but the songs are not actually 
> downloaded.
> 
> If you double-tap on an album you should have a Download Button.  Double-tap 
> Download then your phone should report that you have songs stored on it.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> 
> 
> On 27 Sep 2021, at 11:55, Amy Ruell  wrote:
>  
> Hello,
> Oddly, if I go to music on my phone, I see albums there. However, the songs 
> list on the phone its self under settings and about says songs zero.
> Amy
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
> On Sep 27, 2021, at 6:05 AM, Pete Nalda  wrote:
>  
> As for music, make sure iCloud syncing for music is turned on.
>  
> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
> Louie P (Pete) Nalda
> Facebook.com/lpnalda
> Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
> Twitter: @lpnalda
>  
> On Sep 27, 2021, at 4:56 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>  
> That is a big negative on the bard books for sure.  I have no idea
> about the music.  That not transferring of bard books is so annoying.
> I will be keeping my iPhone 8 forever as long as NLS won't transfer or
> backup your bard books to a new iPhone or other device like an iPad or
> any other device.  It is so frustrating.
>  
> On 9/27/21, Amy Ruell  wrote:
> Hello,
>  
> I updated to IOS 15 and set up my new phone to use a stored backup. I have
> no songs listed and no BARD books. Is there a way to restore these?
>  
> Thanks.
>  
> Amy
>  
>  
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RE: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books

[Richard Turner]

Right.
Was the stored backup on your computer or iCloud?

If iCloud, I have no idea.  Unless you took advantage of the extra storage with 
iOS 15 for backups and did a backup again under 15 to get everything backed up, 
then iCloud doesn’t do the music.

If you did it via USB and your computer, as I said before, you have to leave it 
plugged in an extra long time until all the files are copied which is almost 
impossible to tell easily with a screen reader.  Even then, in the past, I had 
to sync again after restoring from a backup to get all my music over.

If all else fails, ask the Apple Accessibility team, 877-240-3930.  When I 
called Saturday evening, I only had about a 30 second wait to talk with someone.

Best of luck,



Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Amy Ruell
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 7:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books

I have a lot of downloaded music but it is not showing up.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 10:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books
I had to upgrade to IOS 15 because that is what came on the new phone I 
purchased.
Amy


If you are streaming music, and have not downloaded it, the Settings, general, 
About, will not show any songs, because none are on the device.
I suspect the music app will show what is available, but available when online, 
as Malcolm said.





Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: 
https://www.turner42.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Malcolm Parfitt
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 4:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books

You don’t have to download music to play it provided you have an internet 
connection.

If you want to play music when you are offline or you don’t want to use up your 
data allowance then the music has to be downloaded.

Sometimes I want to play music when not on wifi and at the time I had a limited 
data allowance so I would download music but now my plan is unlimited I don’t 
bother.
Malcolm Parfitt

On 27 Sep 2021, at 12:22, Amy Ruell 
mailto:aru...@comcast.net>> wrote:

Hello,
That’s what I would’ve thought as well, however, I don’t have to download the 
music to play it.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 27, 2021, at 7:19 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
 That is why I do the direct wireless transfer from the old phone to the new.
I have over 12000 songs on my phone and when the transfer was pinished in under 
an hour they were all on the new phone.
If you used iTunes with a USB cable you would have had to wait several hours 
for the songs to finish transfering.
You may have to do a full sync with your computer to get them all on the phone.
Good luck.
You could also call Apple Accessibility to get some assistance if needed.


Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





website:  
www.turner42.com

(Sent by a blue iPhone 13 Pro)

On Sep 27, 2021, at 3:59 AM, Malcolm Parfitt 
mailto:malc...@parfitt1.org.uk>> wrote:
It sounds like the albums are in your library but the songs are not actually 
downloaded.

If you double-tap on an album you should have a Download Button.  Double-tap 
Download then your phone should report that you have songs stored on it.

Malcolm Parfitt
On 27 Sep 2021, at 11:55, Amy Ruell 
mailto:aru...@comcast.net>> wrote:

Hello,
Oddly, if I go to music on my phone, I see albums there. However, the songs 
list on the phone its self under settings and about says songs zero.
Amy

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 27, 2021, at 6:05 AM, Pete Nalda 
mailto:lpna...@gmail.com>> wrote:

As for music, make sure iCloud syncing for music is turned on.

RE: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books

[Amy Ruell]

I have a lot of downloaded music but it is not showing up.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 10:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books

I had to upgrade to IOS 15 because that is what came on the new phone I 
purchased.

Amy

 

 

If you are streaming music, and have not downloaded it, the Settings, general, 
About, will not show any songs, because none are on the device.

I suspect the music app will show what is available, but available when online, 
as Malcolm said.

 

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site:   https://www.turner42.com

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Malcolm Parfitt
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 4:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books

 

You don’t have to download music to play it provided you have an internet 
connection.

 

If you want to play music when you are offline or you don’t want to use up your 
data allowance then the music has to be downloaded.

 

Sometimes I want to play music when not on wifi and at the time I had a limited 
data allowance so I would download music but now my plan is unlimited I don’t 
bother.

Malcolm Parfitt

 

On 27 Sep 2021, at 12:22, Amy Ruell mailto:aru...@comcast.net> > wrote:



Hello,

That’s what I would’ve thought as well, however, I don’t have to download the 
music to play it.

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Sep 27, 2021, at 7:19 AM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 That is why I do the direct wireless transfer from the old phone to the new. 

I have over 12000 songs on my phone and when the transfer was pinished in under 
an hour they were all on the new phone.

If you used iTunes with a USB cable you would have had to wait several hours 
for the songs to finish transfering.

You may have to do a full sync with your computer to get them all on the phone.

Good luck.

You could also call Apple Accessibility to get some assistance if needed.

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner 

  

 

 

 

 

website:  www.turner42.com  

 

(Sent by a blue iPhone 13 Pro)

 

On Sep 27, 2021, at 3:59 AM, Malcolm Parfitt mailto:malc...@parfitt1.org.uk> > wrote:

It sounds like the albums are in your library but the songs are not actually 
downloaded.

If you double-tap on an album you should have a Download Button.  Double-tap 
Download then your phone should report that you have songs stored on it.

Malcolm Parfitt



On 27 Sep 2021, at 11:55, Amy Ruell mailto:aru...@comcast.net> > wrote:

 

Hello,

Oddly, if I go to music on my phone, I see albums there. However, the songs 
list on the phone its self under settings and about says songs zero.

Amy

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Sep 27, 2021, at 6:05 AM, Pete Nalda mailto:lpna...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

As for music, make sure iCloud syncing for music is turned on. 

 

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates

Louie P (Pete) Nalda

Facebook.com/lpnalda

Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda

Twitter: @lpnalda

 

On Sep 27, 2021, at 4:56 AM, Joshua Hendrickson mailto:louv...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

That is a big negative on the bard books for sure.  I have no idea

about the music.  That not transferring of bard books is so annoying.

I will be keeping my iPhone 8 forever as long as NLS won't transfer or

backup your bard books to a new iPhone or other device like an iPad or

any other device.  It is so frustrating.

 

On 9/27/21, Amy Ruell mailto:aru...@comcast.net> > wrote:

Hello,

 

I updated to IOS 15 and set up my new phone to use a stored backup. I have

no songs listed and no BARD books. Is there a way to restore these?

 

Thanks.

 

Amy

 

 

 

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RE: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books

[Richard Turner]

If you are streaming music, and have not downloaded it, the Settings, general, 
About, will not show any songs, because none are on the device.
I suspect the music app will show what is available, but available when online, 
as Malcolm said.




Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Malcolm 
Parfitt
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 4:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books

You don’t have to download music to play it provided you have an internet 
connection.

If you want to play music when you are offline or you don’t want to use up your 
data allowance then the music has to be downloaded.

Sometimes I want to play music when not on wifi and at the time I had a limited 
data allowance so I would download music but now my plan is unlimited I don’t 
bother.
Malcolm Parfitt


On 27 Sep 2021, at 12:22, Amy Ruell 
mailto:aru...@comcast.net>> wrote:

Hello,
That’s what I would’ve thought as well, however, I don’t have to download the 
music to play it.

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 27, 2021, at 7:19 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
 That is why I do the direct wireless transfer from the old phone to the new.
I have over 12000 songs on my phone and when the transfer was pinished in under 
an hour they were all on the new phone.
If you used iTunes with a USB cable you would have had to wait several hours 
for the songs to finish transfering.
You may have to do a full sync with your computer to get them all on the phone.
Good luck.
You could also call Apple Accessibility to get some assistance if needed.


Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





website:  www.turner42.com

(Sent by a blue iPhone 13 Pro)


On Sep 27, 2021, at 3:59 AM, Malcolm Parfitt 
mailto:malc...@parfitt1.org.uk>> wrote:
It sounds like the albums are in your library but the songs are not actually 
downloaded.

If you double-tap on an album you should have a Download Button.  Double-tap 
Download then your phone should report that you have songs stored on it.

Malcolm Parfitt


On 27 Sep 2021, at 11:55, Amy Ruell 
mailto:aru...@comcast.net>> wrote:

Hello,
Oddly, if I go to music on my phone, I see albums there. However, the songs 
list on the phone its self under settings and about says songs zero.
Amy

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 27, 2021, at 6:05 AM, Pete Nalda 
mailto:lpna...@gmail.com>> wrote:

As for music, make sure iCloud syncing for music is turned on.

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
Louie P (Pete) Nalda
Facebook.com/lpnalda
Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
Twitter: @lpnalda

On Sep 27, 2021, at 4:56 AM, Joshua Hendrickson 
mailto:louv...@gmail.com>> wrote:

That is a big negative on the bard books for sure.  I have no idea
about the music.  That not transferring of bard books is so annoying.
I will be keeping my iPhone 8 forever as long as NLS won't transfer or
backup your bard books to a new iPhone or other device like an iPad or
any other device.  It is so frustrating.

On 9/27/21, Amy Ruell mailto:aru...@comcast.net>> wrote:
Hello,

I updated to IOS 15 and set up my new phone to use a stored backup. I have
no songs listed and no BARD books. Is there a way to restore these?

Thanks.

Amy



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RE: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books

[davycuppens]

This is all about a known bug of which Apple is aware, just like the unlock 
problem of Apple watches with iphone 13 models, we all have to wait for 
ios15.01 which will come out soon or better staying for a while on ios14 like I 
do.

Davy 

 

Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Malcolm Parfitt
Verzonden: maandag 27 september 2021 13:56
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: Re: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books

 

You don’t have to download music to play it provided you have an internet 
connection.

 

If you want to play music when you are offline or you don’t want to use up your 
data allowance then the music has to be downloaded.

 

Sometimes I want to play music when not on wifi and at the time I had a limited 
data allowance so I would download music but now my plan is unlimited I don’t 
bother.

Malcolm Parfitt





On 27 Sep 2021, at 12:22, Amy Ruell mailto:aru...@comcast.net> > wrote:



Hello,

That’s what I would’ve thought as well, however, I don’t have to download the 
music to play it.

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Sep 27, 2021, at 7:19 AM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 That is why I do the direct wireless transfer from the old phone to the new. 

I have over 12000 songs on my phone and when the transfer was pinished in under 
an hour they were all on the new phone.

If you used iTunes with a USB cable you would have had to wait several hours 
for the songs to finish transfering.

You may have to do a full sync with your computer to get them all on the phone.

Good luck.

You could also call Apple Accessibility to get some assistance if needed.

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner 

  

 

 

 

 

website:  www.turner42.com  

 

(Sent by a blue iPhone 13 Pro)





On Sep 27, 2021, at 3:59 AM, Malcolm Parfitt mailto:malc...@parfitt1.org.uk> > wrote:

It sounds like the albums are in your library but the songs are not actually 
downloaded.

If you double-tap on an album you should have a Download Button.  Double-tap 
Download then your phone should report that you have songs stored on it.

Malcolm Parfitt




On 27 Sep 2021, at 11:55, Amy Ruell mailto:aru...@comcast.net> > wrote:

 

Hello,

Oddly, if I go to music on my phone, I see albums there. However, the songs 
list on the phone its self under settings and about says songs zero.

Amy

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Sep 27, 2021, at 6:05 AM, Pete Nalda mailto:lpna...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

As for music, make sure iCloud syncing for music is turned on. 

 

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates

Louie P (Pete) Nalda

Facebook.com/lpnalda

Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda

Twitter: @lpnalda

 

On Sep 27, 2021, at 4:56 AM, Joshua Hendrickson mailto:louv...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

That is a big negative on the bard books for sure.  I have no idea

about the music.  That not transferring of bard books is so annoying.

I will be keeping my iPhone 8 forever as long as NLS won't transfer or

backup your bard books to a new iPhone or other device like an iPad or

any other device.  It is so frustrating.

 

On 9/27/21, Amy Ruell mailto:aru...@comcast.net> > wrote:

Hello,

 

I updated to IOS 15 and set up my new phone to use a stored backup. I have

no songs listed and no BARD books. Is there a way to restore these?

 

Thanks.

 

Amy

 

 

 

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Re: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books

[Malcolm Parfitt]

You don’t have to download music to play it provided you have an internet 
connection.

If you want to play music when you are offline or you don’t want to use up your 
data allowance then the music has to be downloaded.

Sometimes I want to play music when not on wifi and at the time I had a limited 
data allowance so I would download music but now my plan is unlimited I don’t 
bother.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 27 Sep 2021, at 12:22, Amy Ruell  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello,
> That’s what I would’ve thought as well, however, I don’t have to download the 
> music to play it.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Sep 27, 2021, at 7:19 AM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>  That is why I do the direct wireless transfer from the old phone to the 
>> new.
>> I have over 12000 songs on my phone and when the transfer was pinished in 
>> under an hour they were all on the new phone.
>> If you used iTunes with a USB cable you would have had to wait several hours 
>> for the songs to finish transfering.
>> You may have to do a full sync with your computer to get them all on the 
>> phone.
>> Good luck.
>> You could also call Apple Accessibility to get some assistance if needed.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
>> -- Jane Wagner 
>>   
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> website:  www.turner42.com
>> 
>> (Sent by a blue iPhone 13 Pro)
>> 
>>> On Sep 27, 2021, at 3:59 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It sounds like the albums are in your library but the songs are not 
>>> actually downloaded.
>>> 
>>> If you double-tap on an album you should have a Download Button.  
>>> Double-tap Download then your phone should report that you have songs 
>>> stored on it.
>>> 
>>> Malcolm Parfitt
>>> 
> On 27 Sep 2021, at 11:55, Amy Ruell  wrote:
 
 Hello,
 Oddly, if I go to music on my phone, I see albums there. However, the 
 songs list on the phone its self under settings and about says songs zero.
 Amy
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On Sep 27, 2021, at 6:05 AM, Pete Nalda  wrote:
> 
> As for music, make sure iCloud syncing for music is turned on. 
> 
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 On Sep 27, 2021, at 4:56 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  
 wrote:
>> 
>> That is a big negative on the bard books for sure.  I have no idea
>> about the music.  That not transferring of bard books is so annoying.
>> I will be keeping my iPhone 8 forever as long as NLS won't transfer or
>> backup your bard books to a new iPhone or other device like an iPad or
>> any other device.  It is so frustrating.
>> 
> On 9/27/21, Amy Ruell  wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> I updated to IOS 15 and set up my new phone to use a stored backup. I 
>>> have
>>> no songs listed and no BARD books. Is there a way to restore these?
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Amy
>>> 
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Re: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books

[Amy Ruell]

Hello,
That’s what I would’ve thought as well, however, I don’t have to download the 
music to play it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 27, 2021, at 7:19 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  That is why I do the direct wireless transfer from the old phone to the new.
> I have over 12000 songs on my phone and when the transfer was pinished in 
> under an hour they were all on the new phone.
> If you used iTunes with a USB cable you would have had to wait several hours 
> for the songs to finish transfering.
> You may have to do a full sync with your computer to get them all on the 
> phone.
> Good luck.
> You could also call Apple Accessibility to get some assistance if needed.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
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> 
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> 
>>> On Sep 27, 2021, at 3:59 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> It sounds like the albums are in your library but the songs are not 
>> actually downloaded.
>> 
>> If you double-tap on an album you should have a Download Button.  Double-tap 
>> Download then your phone should report that you have songs stored on it.
>> 
>> Malcolm Parfitt
>> 
 On 27 Sep 2021, at 11:55, Amy Ruell  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> Oddly, if I go to music on my phone, I see albums there. However, the songs 
>>> list on the phone its self under settings and about says songs zero.
>>> Amy
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Sep 27, 2021, at 6:05 AM, Pete Nalda  wrote:
 
 As for music, make sure iCloud syncing for music is turned on. 
 
 Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
 Louie P (Pete) Nalda
 Facebook.com/lpnalda
 Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
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>>> On Sep 27, 2021, at 4:56 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  
>>> wrote:
> 
> That is a big negative on the bard books for sure.  I have no idea
> about the music.  That not transferring of bard books is so annoying.
> I will be keeping my iPhone 8 forever as long as NLS won't transfer or
> backup your bard books to a new iPhone or other device like an iPad or
> any other device.  It is so frustrating.
> 
 On 9/27/21, Amy Ruell  wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I updated to IOS 15 and set up my new phone to use a stored backup. I 
>> have
>> no songs listed and no BARD books. Is there a way to restore these?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Amy
>> 
>> 
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Re: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books

[Richard Turner]

That is why I do the direct wireless transfer from the old phone to the new.
I have over 12000 songs on my phone and when the transfer was pinished in under 
an hour they were all on the new phone.
If you used iTunes with a USB cable you would have had to wait several hours 
for the songs to finish transfering.
You may have to do a full sync with your computer to get them all on the phone.
Good luck.
You could also call Apple Accessibility to get some assistance if needed.



Richard
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Jane Wagner





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(Sent by a blue iPhone 13 Pro)

On Sep 27, 2021, at 3:59 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:

It sounds like the albums are in your library but the songs are not actually 
downloaded.

If you double-tap on an album you should have a Download Button.  Double-tap 
Download then your phone should report that you have songs stored on it.

Malcolm Parfitt

On 27 Sep 2021, at 11:55, Amy Ruell  wrote:

Hello,
Oddly, if I go to music on my phone, I see albums there. However, the songs 
list on the phone its self under settings and about says songs zero.
Amy

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 27, 2021, at 6:05 AM, Pete Nalda  wrote:

As for music, make sure iCloud syncing for music is turned on.

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On Sep 27, 2021, at 4:56 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:

That is a big negative on the bard books for sure.  I have no idea
about the music.  That not transferring of bard books is so annoying.
I will be keeping my iPhone 8 forever as long as NLS won't transfer or
backup your bard books to a new iPhone or other device like an iPad or
any other device.  It is so frustrating.

On 9/27/21, Amy Ruell  wrote:
Hello,

I updated to IOS 15 and set up my new phone to use a stored backup. I have
no songs listed and no BARD books. Is there a way to restore these?

Thanks.

Amy



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Re: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books

[Malcolm Parfitt]

It sounds like the albums are in your library but the songs are not actually 
downloaded.

If you double-tap on an album you should have a Download Button.  Double-tap 
Download then your phone should report that you have songs stored on it.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 27 Sep 2021, at 11:55, Amy Ruell  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> Oddly, if I go to music on my phone, I see albums there. However, the songs 
> list on the phone its self under settings and about says songs zero.
> Amy
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 27, 2021, at 6:05 AM, Pete Nalda  wrote:
>> 
>> As for music, make sure iCloud syncing for music is turned on. 
>> 
>> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
>> Louie P (Pete) Nalda
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 On Sep 27, 2021, at 4:56 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> That is a big negative on the bard books for sure.  I have no idea
>>> about the music.  That not transferring of bard books is so annoying.
>>> I will be keeping my iPhone 8 forever as long as NLS won't transfer or
>>> backup your bard books to a new iPhone or other device like an iPad or
>>> any other device.  It is so frustrating.
>>> 
> On 9/27/21, Amy Ruell  wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I updated to IOS 15 and set up my new phone to use a stored backup. I have
 no songs listed and no BARD books. Is there a way to restore these?
 
 Thanks.
 
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Re: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books

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Hello,
Oddly, if I go to music on my phone, I see albums there. However, the songs 
list on the phone its self under settings and about says songs zero.
Amy

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 27, 2021, at 6:05 AM, Pete Nalda  wrote:
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> As for music, make sure iCloud syncing for music is turned on. 
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>> On Sep 27, 2021, at 4:56 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
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>> That is a big negative on the bard books for sure.  I have no idea
>> about the music.  That not transferring of bard books is so annoying.
>> I will be keeping my iPhone 8 forever as long as NLS won't transfer or
>> backup your bard books to a new iPhone or other device like an iPad or
>> any other device.  It is so frustrating.
>> 
 On 9/27/21, Amy Ruell  wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> I updated to IOS 15 and set up my new phone to use a stored backup. I have
>>> no songs listed and no BARD books. Is there a way to restore these?
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Amy
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Re: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books

[Pete Nalda]

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> On Sep 27, 2021, at 4:56 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
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> That is a big negative on the bard books for sure.  I have no idea
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> I will be keeping my iPhone 8 forever as long as NLS won't transfer or
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>> Hello,
>> 
>> I updated to IOS 15 and set up my new phone to use a stored backup. I have
>> no songs listed and no BARD books. Is there a way to restore these?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Amy
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Re: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books

[Joshua Hendrickson]

That is a big negative on the bard books for sure.  I have no idea
about the music.  That not transferring of bard books is so annoying.
I will be keeping my iPhone 8 forever as long as NLS won't transfer or
backup your bard books to a new iPhone or other device like an iPad or
any other device.  It is so frustrating.

On 9/27/21, Amy Ruell  wrote:
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> I updated to IOS 15 and set up my new phone to use a stored backup. I have
> no songs listed and no BARD books. Is there a way to restore these?
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