RE: What exactly is a widget?

2020-11-01 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
The Today screen is not your home screen and it's meant to display widgets only

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Stimmel
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 10:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What exactly is a widget?

Hello everyone,


Thank you to all who responded to my questions. I really appreciate the help. 
This has helped me to understand more what wigits are, and how they work.

I don't plan to use them. I don't have any vision at all. While I can see how 
they would be helpful for some people, I think they would just frustrate me.


Also, what I was calling my main home screen, is the today screen. I wasn't 
realizing that's what it was. So I was saying my main home screen.


On the today screen, I can see several different wigits. I think one is 
for maps. But one is for my battery status.

I was wondering, can I remove wigits? Is this possible?

Or can I somehow make my today screen look differently, still showing 
what I need, but without wigits?


Thank you all again for the help. This list really is a big help to me. 
I do try to Google stuff at times. But as much as I know it can be 
frustrating for some, it's easier just to ask here, and get responses 
from others.


Thank you,


Terri

On 10/30/2020 7:10 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
> A widget is something you can place on your home page that will display some 
> information to you without opening the app. You could see the forecast for 
> the day with a weather app, or the newest podcast that's shown up with the 
> widget for your podcast app. Tapping on an widget can also behave differently 
> then tapping on an app.
>
> All of the widgets I've tried have worked well with VoiceOver. Widgets aren't 
> as convenient for a blind person as they are for a sighted person, since you 
> still need to touch the screen and give a widget focus to see what it's 
> telling you, as opposed to a sighted person, who just has to glance at their 
> screen to get that information. I still find some widgets useful, but not as 
> many as I do on Android, where widgets seem a bit more mature to me, and you 
> seem to have so many more choices. Whether you'll find any widgets useful or 
> not, especially on one of your home pages, is something that only you'll be 
> able to decide for yourself.
>
> In IOS 14, you have the option to add a widget to any home screen. They seem 
> to always take up a two by two grid, so you have to give up the real estate 
> of four app icons for one widget. The today screen, which is the screen to 
> the left of your first home page, has always been made up of widgets. The 
> difference in IOS 14 is that you can now place widgets on any home page. I 
> suspect that what you're calling your main home page is the today screen.
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>> Of Terri Stimmel
>> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 4:04 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: What exactly is a wigit?
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>>
>> So what exactly is a wigit?
>>
>> Also, how well do they work with Voiceover?
>>
>> And what might be some benefits of using them?
>>
>>
>> I am very curious to learn more. I don't understand them. I also don't 
>> understand
>> as to why now my whole main screen seems covered in them.
>>
>>
>> Any help is appreciated.
>>
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>>
>> Terri
>>
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RE: What exactly is a widget?

2020-10-31 Thread Christopher Chaltain
On a home page, which includes the today screen, I just flick down on an icon 
and double tap when I hear edit mode. At the top of the resulting dialog you'll 
have the option to add a widget. This will give you the list of available 
widgets you can add based on the apps you have installed.

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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of Janet Bell
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> 
> how do you find out if your app has a wigit please
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Simon Wong' via VIPhone
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: What exactly is a wigit?
> 
> Hi here's how someone described it to me, hope its clear.
> A widget is a small icon that you place on your home page to get the
> information you need that updates all the time. For instance, I have my 
> calendar
> widget and my weather widget on my home screen so I can flick to either widget
> and get real time information. My weather one gives me the current
> temperature as well as the high and low. My calendar gives me my next event. 
> If
> I need more detail, I can double tap on the widget and it opens the app. Very
> practical for things you check quite often. Note that not all apps yet have a
> widget but they will come soon. I am thinking of putting my Parcel widget 
> there
> so I can track my parcels location in real time. The thing you have to 
> remember
> is that adding widgets to your home screen will need space so they will push 
> the
> apps at the bottom of your screen to the next page.
> 
> HTH
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Terri Stimmel
> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 5:04 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: What exactly is a wigit?
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> 
> So what exactly is a wigit?
> 
> Also, how well do they work with Voiceover?
> 
> And what might be some benefits of using them?
> 
> 
> I am very curious to learn more. I don't understand them. I also don't 
> understand
> as to why now my whole main screen seems covered in them.
> 
> 
> Any help is appreciated.
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> Terri
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RE: What exactly is a widget?

2020-10-31 Thread Richard Turner
Are you on iOS 14?
If so, page 1 is now back to being the main home screen.
When you do the 3 finger swipe left to right, you are on the Today screen or 
whatever you want to call it where some default widgets show up.
To remove a Widget, swipe to the very bottom of that screen and double tap on 
Edit.
Then, again swipe to the bottom and double tap on customize.
Then, when you touch a widget you wish to remove, flick down with one finger 
until you hear Remove and double tap.
It is now gone from that screen.

HTH,


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Terri 
Stimmel
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 10:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What exactly is a widget?

Hello everyone,


Thank you to all who responded to my questions. I really appreciate the help. 
This has helped me to understand more what wigits are, and how they work.

I don't plan to use them. I don't have any vision at all. While I can see how 
they would be helpful for some people, I think they would just frustrate me.


Also, what I was calling my main home screen, is the today screen. I wasn't 
realizing that's what it was. So I was saying my main home screen.


On the today screen, I can see several different wigits. I think one is 
for maps. But one is for my battery status.

I was wondering, can I remove wigits? Is this possible?

Or can I somehow make my today screen look differently, still showing 
what I need, but without wigits?


Thank you all again for the help. This list really is a big help to me. 
I do try to Google stuff at times. But as much as I know it can be 
frustrating for some, it's easier just to ask here, and get responses 
from others.


Thank you,


Terri

On 10/30/2020 7:10 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
> A widget is something you can place on your home page that will display some 
> information to you without opening the app. You could see the forecast for 
> the day with a weather app, or the newest podcast that's shown up with the 
> widget for your podcast app. Tapping on an widget can also behave differently 
> then tapping on an app.
>
> All of the widgets I've tried have worked well with VoiceOver. Widgets aren't 
> as convenient for a blind person as they are for a sighted person, since you 
> still need to touch the screen and give a widget focus to see what it's 
> telling you, as opposed to a sighted person, who just has to glance at their 
> screen to get that information. I still find some widgets useful, but not as 
> many as I do on Android, where widgets seem a bit more mature to me, and you 
> seem to have so many more choices. Whether you'll find any widgets useful or 
> not, especially on one of your home pages, is something that only you'll be 
> able to decide for yourself.
>
> In IOS 14, you have the option to add a widget to any home screen. They seem 
> to always take up a two by two grid, so you have to give up the real estate 
> of four app icons for one widget. The today screen, which is the screen to 
> the left of your first home page, has always been made up of widgets. The 
> difference in IOS 14 is that you can now place widgets on any home page. I 
> suspect that what you're calling your main home page is the today screen.
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>> Of Terri Stimmel
>> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 4:04 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: What exactly is a wigit?
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>>
>> So what exactly is a wigit?
>>
>> Also, how well do they work with Voiceover?
>>
>> And what might be some benefits of using them?
>>
>>
>> I am very curious to learn more. I don't understand them. I also don't 
>> understand
>> as to why now my whole main screen seems covered in them.
>>
>>
>> Any help is appreciated.
>>
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>>
>> Terri
>>
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Re: What exactly is a widget?

2020-10-31 Thread Terri Stimmel

Hello everyone,


Thank you to all who responded to my questions. I really appreciate the 
help. This has helped me to understand more what wigits are, and how 
they work.


I don't plan to use them. I don't have any vision at all. While I can 
see how they would be helpful for some people, I think they would just 
frustrate me.



Also, what I was calling my main home screen, is the today screen. I 
wasn't realizing that's what it was. So I was saying my main home screen.



On the today screen, I can see several different wigits. I think one is 
for maps. But one is for my battery status.


I was wondering, can I remove wigits? Is this possible?

Or can I somehow make my today screen look differently, still showing 
what I need, but without wigits?



Thank you all again for the help. This list really is a big help to me. 
I do try to Google stuff at times. But as much as I know it can be 
frustrating for some, it's easier just to ask here, and get responses 
from others.



Thank you,


Terri

On 10/30/2020 7:10 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:

A widget is something you can place on your home page that will display some 
information to you without opening the app. You could see the forecast for the 
day with a weather app, or the newest podcast that's shown up with the widget 
for your podcast app. Tapping on an widget can also behave differently then 
tapping on an app.

All of the widgets I've tried have worked well with VoiceOver. Widgets aren't 
as convenient for a blind person as they are for a sighted person, since you 
still need to touch the screen and give a widget focus to see what it's telling 
you, as opposed to a sighted person, who just has to glance at their screen to 
get that information. I still find some widgets useful, but not as many as I do 
on Android, where widgets seem a bit more mature to me, and you seem to have so 
many more choices. Whether you'll find any widgets useful or not, especially on 
one of your home pages, is something that only you'll be able to decide for 
yourself.

In IOS 14, you have the option to add a widget to any home screen. They seem to 
always take up a two by two grid, so you have to give up the real estate of 
four app icons for one widget. The today screen, which is the screen to the 
left of your first home page, has always been made up of widgets. The 
difference in IOS 14 is that you can now place widgets on any home page. I 
suspect that what you're calling your main home page is the today screen.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of Terri Stimmel
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 4:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: What exactly is a wigit?

Hello everyone,


So what exactly is a wigit?

Also, how well do they work with Voiceover?

And what might be some benefits of using them?


I am very curious to learn more. I don't understand them. I also don't 
understand
as to why now my whole main screen seems covered in them.


Any help is appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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RE: What exactly is a widget?

2020-10-31 Thread Tom Rash
Thanks for the explanation  with widgets and voice over.


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Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 5:11 PM
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Subject: RE: What exactly is a widget?

A widget is something you can place on your home page that will display some 
information to you without opening the app. You could see the forecast for the 
day with a weather app, or the newest podcast that's shown up with the widget 
for your podcast app. Tapping on an widget can also behave differently then 
tapping on an app.

All of the widgets I've tried have worked well with VoiceOver. Widgets aren't 
as convenient for a blind person as they are for a sighted person, since you 
still need to touch the screen and give a widget focus to see what it's telling 
you, as opposed to a sighted person, who just has to glance at their screen to 
get that information. I still find some widgets useful, but not as many as I do 
on Android, where widgets seem a bit more mature to me, and you seem to have so 
many more choices. Whether you'll find any widgets useful or not, especially on 
one of your home pages, is something that only you'll be able to decide for 
yourself.

In IOS 14, you have the option to add a widget to any home screen. They seem to 
always take up a two by two grid, so you have to give up the real estate of 
four app icons for one widget. The today screen, which is the screen to the 
left of your first home page, has always been made up of widgets. The 
difference in IOS 14 is that you can now place widgets on any home page. I 
suspect that what you're calling your main home page is the today screen.

> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Terri Stimmel
> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 4:04 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: What exactly is a wigit?
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> 
> So what exactly is a wigit?
> 
> Also, how well do they work with Voiceover?
> 
> And what might be some benefits of using them?
> 
> 
> I am very curious to learn more. I don't understand them. I also don't 
> understand as to why now my whole main screen seems covered in them.
> 
> 
> Any help is appreciated.
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> Terri
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RE: What exactly is a widget?

2020-10-30 Thread Christopher Chaltain
A widget is something you can place on your home page that will display some 
information to you without opening the app. You could see the forecast for the 
day with a weather app, or the newest podcast that's shown up with the widget 
for your podcast app. Tapping on an widget can also behave differently then 
tapping on an app.

All of the widgets I've tried have worked well with VoiceOver. Widgets aren't 
as convenient for a blind person as they are for a sighted person, since you 
still need to touch the screen and give a widget focus to see what it's telling 
you, as opposed to a sighted person, who just has to glance at their screen to 
get that information. I still find some widgets useful, but not as many as I do 
on Android, where widgets seem a bit more mature to me, and you seem to have so 
many more choices. Whether you'll find any widgets useful or not, especially on 
one of your home pages, is something that only you'll be able to decide for 
yourself.

In IOS 14, you have the option to add a widget to any home screen. They seem to 
always take up a two by two grid, so you have to give up the real estate of 
four app icons for one widget. The today screen, which is the screen to the 
left of your first home page, has always been made up of widgets. The 
difference in IOS 14 is that you can now place widgets on any home page. I 
suspect that what you're calling your main home page is the today screen.

> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 4:04 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: What exactly is a wigit?
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> 
> So what exactly is a wigit?
> 
> Also, how well do they work with Voiceover?
> 
> And what might be some benefits of using them?
> 
> 
> I am very curious to learn more. I don't understand them. I also don't 
> understand
> as to why now my whole main screen seems covered in them.
> 
> 
> Any help is appreciated.
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> Terri
> 
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