Re: braille screen input orientation

2015-03-17 Thread Teresa Cochran
I don't know if this is a glitch or not, as I'm not sure what the intention 
would be if it was done on purpose. I do not pretend it's a slate. That option 
is extremely confusing for me. In tabletop mode, I simply flip my iPod so that 
the screen is facing me, then flip it back to tabletop mode, and this sets the 
orientation so that dots 1-2-3 are on the left, and dots 4-5-6 are on the 
right. For screen-away mode, I always find that it orients with the home button 
on the right.

HtH,
Teresa

Winging its way from my iPod

> On Mar 17, 2015, at 11:11 AM, carol.pearso...@googlemail.com 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes, I always think that's a bit odd, but guess we're feeling from the back 
> of our phone which is towards us and the phone's screen points away from us. 
> A sighted person would want to see the screen.
> 
> Anyway, if you havfe used a Perkins then you wwill hopefully be able to find 
> a setting that suits you.
> 
> Are you using the braille keyboard which is part of IOS8 or do you have 
> mBraille?  Just curious, because mBraille has a number of settings you can 
> choose, while the braille in the system seems to react to your hand/finger 
> position.
> 
> If you're still really stuck but want to make this a part of life and write 
> in this way, write me off list and I'll see what I can advise further.
> 
> Carol P
> carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
> ----- Original Message - From: "Dave Bahr" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 4:43 PM
> Subject: braille screen input orientation
> 
> 
> Hi. It seems that whenever the landscape mode is active for braille
> screen input, I have to hold the phone opposite of what it says. In
> other words, it says, home button to the left, but the home button is to
> the right, and vice versa. Also, the dots for the writing in braille
> seem to be pretty low on the screen, maybe I'm just not used to the
> braille input, which I'm not, i just turned it on last week. But with
> the weird landscape thing, I don't know why voiceover thinks the home
> button is the opposite of what I'm holding the phone. I have to reverse
> my braille letters, like a slate. I feel kind of dumb, really. i'm
> probably making it more complicated, but so far it's taking me much
> longer to type in braille than print, usually it's the reverse.
> 
> help? Thanks, Dave
> 
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Re: braille screen input orientation

2015-03-17 Thread carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Yes, I always think that's a bit odd, but guess we're feeling from the back 
of our phone which is towards us and the phone's screen points away from us. 
A sighted person would want to see the screen.


Anyway, if you havfe used a Perkins then you wwill hopefully be able to find 
a setting that suits you.


Are you using the braille keyboard which is part of IOS8 or do you have 
mBraille?  Just curious, because mBraille has a number of settings you can 
choose, while the braille in the system seems to react to your hand/finger 
position.


If you're still really stuck but want to make this a part of life and write 
in this way, write me off list and I'll see what I can advise further.


Carol P
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
- Original Message - 
From: "Dave Bahr" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 4:43 PM
Subject: braille screen input orientation


Hi. It seems that whenever the landscape mode is active for braille
screen input, I have to hold the phone opposite of what it says. In
other words, it says, home button to the left, but the home button is to
the right, and vice versa. Also, the dots for the writing in braille
seem to be pretty low on the screen, maybe I'm just not used to the
braille input, which I'm not, i just turned it on last week. But with
the weird landscape thing, I don't know why voiceover thinks the home
button is the opposite of what I'm holding the phone. I have to reverse
my braille letters, like a slate. I feel kind of dumb, really. i'm
probably making it more complicated, but so far it's taking me much
longer to type in braille than print, usually it's the reverse.

help? Thanks, Dave

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Re: braille screen input orientation

2015-03-17 Thread Alex Hall
It makes sense, because the screen faces away from you. Think of it this way: 
to someone looking at the screen, where is the button. As you face it, it's, 
say, on your left. Once you turn it around to face away from you, so you can 
type braille, it's facing the other way. Now, the button is on the right to 
someone looking head-on at the screen (facing you as you type).

No matter what it says, though, you don't need to reverse anything. Your left 
index finger is still dot 1, your right pinky is still dot 6, and the other 
fingers are all also unchanged. Think of it like typing on a brill keyboard 
that happens to be hanging on your shoulder and is thus perpendicular to the 
floor; an odd position, but once you fix the dot assignments in your mind, one 
that quickly becomes familiar.
> On Mar 17, 2015, at 12:43 PM, Dave Bahr  wrote:
> 
> Hi. It seems that whenever the landscape mode is active for braille screen 
> input, I have to hold the phone opposite of what it says. In other words, it 
> says, home button to the left, but the home button is to the right, and vice 
> versa. Also, the dots for the writing in braille seem to be pretty low on the 
> screen, maybe I'm just not used to the braille input, which I'm not, i just 
> turned it on last week. But with the weird landscape thing, I don't know why 
> voiceover thinks the home button is the opposite of what I'm holding the 
> phone. I have to reverse my braille letters, like a slate. I feel kind of 
> dumb, really. i'm probably making it more complicated, but so far it's taking 
> me much longer to type in braille than print, usually it's the reverse.
> 
> help? Thanks, Dave
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braille screen input orientation

2015-03-17 Thread Dave Bahr
Hi. It seems that whenever the landscape mode is active for braille 
screen input, I have to hold the phone opposite of what it says. In 
other words, it says, home button to the left, but the home button is to 
the right, and vice versa. Also, the dots for the writing in braille 
seem to be pretty low on the screen, maybe I'm just not used to the 
braille input, which I'm not, i just turned it on last week. But with 
the weird landscape thing, I don't know why voiceover thinks the home 
button is the opposite of what I'm holding the phone. I have to reverse 
my braille letters, like a slate. I feel kind of dumb, really. i'm 
probably making it more complicated, but so far it's taking me much 
longer to type in braille than print, usually it's the reverse.


help? Thanks, Dave

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