Re: braille screen input orientation
I don't know if this is a glitch or not, as I'm not sure what the intention would be if it was done on purpose. I do not pretend it's a slate. That option is extremely confusing for me. In tabletop mode, I simply flip my iPod so that the screen is facing me, then flip it back to tabletop mode, and this sets the orientation so that dots 1-2-3 are on the left, and dots 4-5-6 are on the right. For screen-away mode, I always find that it orients with the home button on the right. HtH, Teresa Winging its way from my iPod > On Mar 17, 2015, at 11:11 AM, carol.pearso...@googlemail.com > wrote: > > Yes, I always think that's a bit odd, but guess we're feeling from the back > of our phone which is towards us and the phone's screen points away from us. > A sighted person would want to see the screen. > > Anyway, if you havfe used a Perkins then you wwill hopefully be able to find > a setting that suits you. > > Are you using the braille keyboard which is part of IOS8 or do you have > mBraille? Just curious, because mBraille has a number of settings you can > choose, while the braille in the system seems to react to your hand/finger > position. > > If you're still really stuck but want to make this a part of life and write > in this way, write me off list and I'll see what I can advise further. > > Carol P > carol.pearso...@googlemail.com > ----- Original Message - From: "Dave Bahr" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 4:43 PM > Subject: braille screen input orientation > > > Hi. It seems that whenever the landscape mode is active for braille > screen input, I have to hold the phone opposite of what it says. In > other words, it says, home button to the left, but the home button is to > the right, and vice versa. Also, the dots for the writing in braille > seem to be pretty low on the screen, maybe I'm just not used to the > braille input, which I'm not, i just turned it on last week. But with > the weird landscape thing, I don't know why voiceover thinks the home > button is the opposite of what I'm holding the phone. I have to reverse > my braille letters, like a slate. I feel kind of dumb, really. i'm > probably making it more complicated, but so far it's taking me much > longer to type in braille than print, usually it's the reverse. > > help? Thanks, Dave > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: braille screen input orientation
Yes, I always think that's a bit odd, but guess we're feeling from the back of our phone which is towards us and the phone's screen points away from us. A sighted person would want to see the screen. Anyway, if you havfe used a Perkins then you wwill hopefully be able to find a setting that suits you. Are you using the braille keyboard which is part of IOS8 or do you have mBraille? Just curious, because mBraille has a number of settings you can choose, while the braille in the system seems to react to your hand/finger position. If you're still really stuck but want to make this a part of life and write in this way, write me off list and I'll see what I can advise further. Carol P carol.pearso...@googlemail.com - Original Message - From: "Dave Bahr" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 4:43 PM Subject: braille screen input orientation Hi. It seems that whenever the landscape mode is active for braille screen input, I have to hold the phone opposite of what it says. In other words, it says, home button to the left, but the home button is to the right, and vice versa. Also, the dots for the writing in braille seem to be pretty low on the screen, maybe I'm just not used to the braille input, which I'm not, i just turned it on last week. But with the weird landscape thing, I don't know why voiceover thinks the home button is the opposite of what I'm holding the phone. I have to reverse my braille letters, like a slate. I feel kind of dumb, really. i'm probably making it more complicated, but so far it's taking me much longer to type in braille than print, usually it's the reverse. help? Thanks, Dave -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: braille screen input orientation
It makes sense, because the screen faces away from you. Think of it this way: to someone looking at the screen, where is the button. As you face it, it's, say, on your left. Once you turn it around to face away from you, so you can type braille, it's facing the other way. Now, the button is on the right to someone looking head-on at the screen (facing you as you type). No matter what it says, though, you don't need to reverse anything. Your left index finger is still dot 1, your right pinky is still dot 6, and the other fingers are all also unchanged. Think of it like typing on a brill keyboard that happens to be hanging on your shoulder and is thus perpendicular to the floor; an odd position, but once you fix the dot assignments in your mind, one that quickly becomes familiar. > On Mar 17, 2015, at 12:43 PM, Dave Bahr wrote: > > Hi. It seems that whenever the landscape mode is active for braille screen > input, I have to hold the phone opposite of what it says. In other words, it > says, home button to the left, but the home button is to the right, and vice > versa. Also, the dots for the writing in braille seem to be pretty low on the > screen, maybe I'm just not used to the braille input, which I'm not, i just > turned it on last week. But with the weird landscape thing, I don't know why > voiceover thinks the home button is the opposite of what I'm holding the > phone. I have to reverse my braille letters, like a slate. I feel kind of > dumb, really. i'm probably making it more complicated, but so far it's taking > me much longer to type in braille than print, usually it's the reverse. > > help? Thanks, Dave > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
braille screen input orientation
Hi. It seems that whenever the landscape mode is active for braille screen input, I have to hold the phone opposite of what it says. In other words, it says, home button to the left, but the home button is to the right, and vice versa. Also, the dots for the writing in braille seem to be pretty low on the screen, maybe I'm just not used to the braille input, which I'm not, i just turned it on last week. But with the weird landscape thing, I don't know why voiceover thinks the home button is the opposite of what I'm holding the phone. I have to reverse my braille letters, like a slate. I feel kind of dumb, really. i'm probably making it more complicated, but so far it's taking me much longer to type in braille than print, usually it's the reverse. help? Thanks, Dave -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.