Re: Seeing AI, After A Little MoreThan A Year
That's so odd, Richard. I find that the document channel often doesn't work for me, either. I usually get the message, no text, or something like that. It's strange, too, considering I'm doing the same thing I would be with something like KNFBReader, and that was fine. It's especially odd, given that the short text channel works fine--well, as fine as any OCR app ever does on the iPhone. I find that my hands usually shake after a little bit of holding up the phone. It's better if I brace my elbows on the table, though, but that doesn't help when you need to scan something freehand, like when you're out and about. Thanks, Ari > On Nov 18, 2018, at 8:44 PM, Richard Turner > wrote: > > I have nearly the exact opposite experience. I seldom get a bad scan with the > document channel. > Richard > > > > "It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good books > which are your very own." __ Sir Arthur Conan Doyle > >> On Nov 18, 2018, at 3:29 PM, kelby carlson wrote: >> >> After somewhat frequent use, I remain fairly unimpressed. The primary >> reason: the document channel. My wife (sighted) has verified that more often >> than not I am getting a page of text entirely in the picture and readable to >> the eye. Nevertheless, my results are almost always inconsistent. Sometimes >> the results are good, though almost never perfect. Other times they are >> terrible. The inconsistency can happen even when the pictures are almost >> identical. We have tried this on many, many documents. For reference: an >> iPhone 7 running iOS 11.4. >> >> I would love to hear contrary testimonials. I have emailed this list in the >> past with similar issues, and the response has been mostly along the lines >> of "you must not be positioning correctly". But at this point I havehave had >> many sighted people verify that in fact I (and they) are positioning the >> camera correctly with bad results. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7C0654ea340ae44c15166c08d64dada78c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636781805560028291sdata=WBNk3MXdGI8YWFsUP%2FGEYNFlaQ1qytsj3uvSC2cnvls%3Dreserved=0 >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at >> https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fgroup%2Fviphonedata=02%7C01%7C%7C0654ea340ae44c15166c08d64dada78c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636781805560028291sdata=4NBo5iX%2BlPya%2FyygBAUKo%2FHmC%2BRwK1QYFSR2P%2B6Il7M%3Dreserved=0. >> For more options, visit >> https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Foptoutdata=02%7C01%7C%7C0654ea340ae44c15166c08d64dada78c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636781805560028291sdata=0eC4x7rtNF887CbH2%2FliRNPrdYwO%2FV7D%2FNIUi0AL2Zk%3Dreserved=0. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please
Re: Seeing AI, After A Little MoreThan A Year
I have great results with Short Text, but that Document channel does take a very precise positioning, hard to get it to work consistently, I have had better luck using a ScanJig scanning stand. On 11/28/18, kelbycarl...@gmail.com wrote: > Does anyone have more specific suggestions? Like I said, I've even had my > wife use the app to scan documents and she hasn't gotten any better results > > than I have. I can sometimes get decent results with the short text channel > > and it is useful for scanning barcodes, but the document channel never > works. I do try to position it farther away from the document and follow > the guidance instructions, but nothing helps. > > On Monday, November 19, 2018 at 5:41:50 PM UTC-5, Mr. Ed wrote: >> >> You could try uninstalling the app and reinstalling and see if that helps >> >> any. >> Mr. Ed >> >> -Original Message- >> From: vip...@googlegroups.com [mailto: >> vip...@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of TaraPrakash >> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 4:39 PM >> To: vip...@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Seeing AI, After A Little MoreThan A Year >> >> Seeing AI it’s probably the most efficient And most impressive app that >> >> costs nothing. Maybe you shouldn’t use the app more often to get familiar >> >> and successful with results >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On Nov 18, 2018, at 6:29 PM, kelby carlson > > wrote: >> > >> > After somewhat frequent use, I remain fairly unimpressed. The primary >> reason: the document channel. My wife (sighted) has verified that more >> often than not I am getting a page of text entirely in the picture and >> readable to the eye. Nevertheless, my results are almost always >> inconsistent. Sometimes the results are good, though almost never perfect. >> >> Other times they are terrible. The inconsistency can happen even when the >> >> pictures are almost identical. We have tried this on many, many documents. >> >> For reference: an iPhone 7 running iOS 11.4. >> > >> > I would love to hear contrary testimonials. I have emailed this list in >> > >> the past with similar issues, and the response has been mostly along the >> lines of "you must not be positioning correctly". But at this point I >> havehave had many sighted people verify that in fact I (and they) are >> positioning the camera correctly with bad results. >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone >> > >> > -- >> > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >> list. >> > >> > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >> > >> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> > >> > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can >> reach Cara at cara...@caraquinn.com >> > >> > The archives for this list can be searched at: >> > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> > --- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "VIPhone" group. >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an email to viphone+u...@googlegroups.com . >> > To post to this group, send email to vip...@googlegroups.com >> . >> > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >> list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can >> reach Cara at cara...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> >> email to viphone+u...@googlegroups.com . >> To post to this group, send email to vip...
Re: Seeing AI, After A Little MoreThan A Year
Does anyone have more specific suggestions? Like I said, I've even had my wife use the app to scan documents and she hasn't gotten any better results than I have. I can sometimes get decent results with the short text channel and it is useful for scanning barcodes, but the document channel never works. I do try to position it farther away from the document and follow the guidance instructions, but nothing helps. On Monday, November 19, 2018 at 5:41:50 PM UTC-5, Mr. Ed wrote: > > You could try uninstalling the app and reinstalling and see if that helps > any. > Mr. Ed > > -Original Message- > From: vip...@googlegroups.com [mailto: > vip...@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of TaraPrakash > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 4:39 PM > To: vip...@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Seeing AI, After A Little MoreThan A Year > > Seeing AI it’s probably the most efficient And most impressive app that > costs nothing. Maybe you shouldn’t use the app more often to get familiar > and successful with results > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Nov 18, 2018, at 6:29 PM, kelby carlson > wrote: > > > > After somewhat frequent use, I remain fairly unimpressed. The primary > reason: the document channel. My wife (sighted) has verified that more > often than not I am getting a page of text entirely in the picture and > readable to the eye. Nevertheless, my results are almost always > inconsistent. Sometimes the results are good, though almost never perfect. > Other times they are terrible. The inconsistency can happen even when the > pictures are almost identical. We have tried this on many, many documents. > For reference: an iPhone 7 running iOS 11.4. > > > > I would love to hear contrary testimonials. I have emailed this list in > the past with similar issues, and the response has been mostly along the > lines of "you must not be positioning correctly". But at this point I > havehave had many sighted people verify that in fact I (and they) are > positioning the camera correctly with bad results. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > -- > > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can > reach Cara at cara...@caraquinn.com > > > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > > --- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "VIPhone" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to viphone+u...@googlegroups.com . > > To post to this group, send email to vip...@googlegroups.com > . > > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can > reach Cara at cara...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+u...@googlegroups.com . > To post to this group, send email to vip...@googlegroups.com . > > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The
RE: Seeing AI, After A Little MoreThan A Year
You could try uninstalling the app and reinstalling and see if that helps any. Mr. Ed -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of TaraPrakash Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 4:39 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Seeing AI, After A Little MoreThan A Year Seeing AI it’s probably the most efficient And most impressive app that costs nothing. Maybe you shouldn’t use the app more often to get familiar and successful with results Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 18, 2018, at 6:29 PM, kelby carlson wrote: > > After somewhat frequent use, I remain fairly unimpressed. The primary reason: > the document channel. My wife (sighted) has verified that more often than not > I am getting a page of text entirely in the picture and readable to the eye. > Nevertheless, my results are almost always inconsistent. Sometimes the > results are good, though almost never perfect. Other times they are terrible. > The inconsistency can happen even when the pictures are almost identical. We > have tried this on many, many documents. For reference: an iPhone 7 running > iOS 11.4. > > I would love to hear contrary testimonials. I have emailed this list in the > past with similar issues, and the response has been mostly along the lines of > "you must not be positioning correctly". But at this point I havehave had > many sighted people verify that in fact I (and they) are positioning the > camera correctly with bad results. > > Sent from my iPhone > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Seeing AI, After A Little MoreThan A Year
Seeing AI it’s probably the most efficient And most impressive app that costs nothing. Maybe you shouldn’t use the app more often to get familiar and successful with results Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 18, 2018, at 6:29 PM, kelby carlson wrote: > > After somewhat frequent use, I remain fairly unimpressed. The primary reason: > the document channel. My wife (sighted) has verified that more often than not > I am getting a page of text entirely in the picture and readable to the eye. > Nevertheless, my results are almost always inconsistent. Sometimes the > results are good, though almost never perfect. Other times they are terrible. > The inconsistency can happen even when the pictures are almost identical. We > have tried this on many, many documents. For reference: an iPhone 7 running > iOS 11.4. > > I would love to hear contrary testimonials. I have emailed this list in the > past with similar issues, and the response has been mostly along the lines of > "you must not be positioning correctly". But at this point I havehave had > many sighted people verify that in fact I (and they) are positioning the > camera correctly with bad results. > > Sent from my iPhone > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Seeing AI, After A Little MoreThan A Year
Is your lens clean and is the lighting good? I also get extremely good results with SeeingAI both using short text and the document channel. This is with an iPhone 6S Plus. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of kelby carlson Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 3:29 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Seeing AI, After A Little MoreThan A Year After somewhat frequent use, I remain fairly unimpressed. The primary reason: the document channel. My wife (sighted) has verified that more often than not I am getting a page of text entirely in the picture and readable to the eye. Nevertheless, my results are almost always inconsistent. Sometimes the results are good, though almost never perfect. Other times they are terrible. The inconsistency can happen even when the pictures are almost identical. We have tried this on many, many documents. For reference: an iPhone 7 running iOS 11.4. I would love to hear contrary testimonials. I have emailed this list in the past with similar issues, and the response has been mostly along the lines of "you must not be positioning correctly". But at this point I havehave had many sighted people verify that in fact I (and they) are positioning the camera correctly with bad results. Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Seeing AI, After A Little MoreThan A Year
I think the key is to hold the phone farther away from the document then you think. There have been times when I hold the phone closer, about 4 to 6 inches and the scan isn't very good. If I hold the phone about 10 to 12 inches away I get a much better scan. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 18, 2018, at 10:37 PM, lenron brown wrote: > > In most cases seeing AI works perfect when scanning. > >> On 11/18/18, Lelia Struve wrote: >> I second that, there are times when reading and envelope for mail is >> difficult but honestly I really haven’t had any issues that I want to >> complain about LOL >> >> Lelia >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Nov 18, 2018, at 6:44 PM, Richard Turner >>> wrote: >>> >>> I have nearly the exact opposite experience. I seldom get a bad scan with >>> the document channel. >>> Richard >>> >>> >>> >>> "It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good >>> books which are your very own." __ Sir Arthur Conan Doyle >>> On Nov 18, 2018, at 3:29 PM, kelby carlson wrote: After somewhat frequent use, I remain fairly unimpressed. The primary reason: the document channel. My wife (sighted) has verified that more often than not I am getting a page of text entirely in the picture and readable to the eye. Nevertheless, my results are almost always inconsistent. Sometimes the results are good, though almost never perfect. Other times they are terrible. The inconsistency can happen even when the pictures are almost identical. We have tried this on many, many documents. For reference: an iPhone 7 running iOS 11.4. I would love to hear contrary testimonials. I have emailed this list in the past with similar issues, and the response has been mostly along the lines of "you must not be positioning correctly". But at this point I havehave had many sighted people verify that in fact I (and they) are positioning the camera correctly with bad results. Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7C0654ea340ae44c15166c08d64dada78c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636781805560028291sdata=WBNk3MXdGI8YWFsUP%2FGEYNFlaQ1qytsj3uvSC2cnvls%3Dreserved=0 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fgroup%2Fviphonedata=02%7C01%7C%7C0654ea340ae44c15166c08d64dada78c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636781805560028291sdata=4NBo5iX%2BlPya%2FyygBAUKo%2FHmC%2BRwK1QYFSR2P%2B6Il7M%3Dreserved=0. For more options, visit https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Foptoutdata=02%7C01%7C%7C0654ea340ae44c15166c08d64dada78c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636781805560028291sdata=0eC4x7rtNF887CbH2%2FliRNPrdYwO%2FV7D%2FNIUi0AL2Zk%3Dreserved=0. >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >>> list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >>
Re: Seeing AI, After A Little MoreThan A Year
In most cases seeing AI works perfect when scanning. On 11/18/18, Lelia Struve wrote: > I second that, there are times when reading and envelope for mail is > difficult but honestly I really haven’t had any issues that I want to > complain about LOL > > Lelia > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 18, 2018, at 6:44 PM, Richard Turner >> wrote: >> >> I have nearly the exact opposite experience. I seldom get a bad scan with >> the document channel. >> Richard >> >> >> >> "It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good >> books which are your very own." __ Sir Arthur Conan Doyle >> >>> On Nov 18, 2018, at 3:29 PM, kelby carlson >>> wrote: >>> >>> After somewhat frequent use, I remain fairly unimpressed. The primary >>> reason: the document channel. My wife (sighted) has verified that more >>> often than not I am getting a page of text entirely in the picture and >>> readable to the eye. Nevertheless, my results are almost always >>> inconsistent. Sometimes the results are good, though almost never >>> perfect. Other times they are terrible. The inconsistency can happen even >>> when the pictures are almost identical. We have tried this on many, many >>> documents. For reference: an iPhone 7 running iOS 11.4. >>> >>> I would love to hear contrary testimonials. I have emailed this list in >>> the past with similar issues, and the response has been mostly along the >>> lines of "you must not be positioning correctly". But at this point I >>> havehave had many sighted people verify that in fact I (and they) are >>> positioning the camera correctly with bad results. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >>> list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7C0654ea340ae44c15166c08d64dada78c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636781805560028291sdata=WBNk3MXdGI8YWFsUP%2FGEYNFlaQ1qytsj3uvSC2cnvls%3Dreserved=0 >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at >>> https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fgroup%2Fviphonedata=02%7C01%7C%7C0654ea340ae44c15166c08d64dada78c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636781805560028291sdata=4NBo5iX%2BlPya%2FyygBAUKo%2FHmC%2BRwK1QYFSR2P%2B6Il7M%3Dreserved=0. >>> For more options, visit >>> https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Foptoutdata=02%7C01%7C%7C0654ea340ae44c15166c08d64dada78c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636781805560028291sdata=0eC4x7rtNF887CbH2%2FliRNPrdYwO%2FV7D%2FNIUi0AL2Zk%3Dreserved=0. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >> list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: >
Re: Seeing AI, After A Little MoreThan A Year
I second that, there are times when reading and envelope for mail is difficult but honestly I really haven’t had any issues that I want to complain about LOL Lelia Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 18, 2018, at 6:44 PM, Richard Turner > wrote: > > I have nearly the exact opposite experience. I seldom get a bad scan with the > document channel. > Richard > > > > "It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good books > which are your very own." __ Sir Arthur Conan Doyle > >> On Nov 18, 2018, at 3:29 PM, kelby carlson wrote: >> >> After somewhat frequent use, I remain fairly unimpressed. The primary >> reason: the document channel. My wife (sighted) has verified that more often >> than not I am getting a page of text entirely in the picture and readable to >> the eye. Nevertheless, my results are almost always inconsistent. Sometimes >> the results are good, though almost never perfect. Other times they are >> terrible. The inconsistency can happen even when the pictures are almost >> identical. We have tried this on many, many documents. For reference: an >> iPhone 7 running iOS 11.4. >> >> I would love to hear contrary testimonials. I have emailed this list in the >> past with similar issues, and the response has been mostly along the lines >> of "you must not be positioning correctly". But at this point I havehave had >> many sighted people verify that in fact I (and they) are positioning the >> camera correctly with bad results. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7C0654ea340ae44c15166c08d64dada78c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636781805560028291sdata=WBNk3MXdGI8YWFsUP%2FGEYNFlaQ1qytsj3uvSC2cnvls%3Dreserved=0 >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at >> https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fgroup%2Fviphonedata=02%7C01%7C%7C0654ea340ae44c15166c08d64dada78c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636781805560028291sdata=4NBo5iX%2BlPya%2FyygBAUKo%2FHmC%2BRwK1QYFSR2P%2B6Il7M%3Dreserved=0. >> For more options, visit >> https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Foptoutdata=02%7C01%7C%7C0654ea340ae44c15166c08d64dada78c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636781805560028291sdata=0eC4x7rtNF887CbH2%2FliRNPrdYwO%2FV7D%2FNIUi0AL2Zk%3Dreserved=0. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To
Re: Seeing AI, After A Little MoreThan A Year
I have nearly the exact opposite experience. I seldom get a bad scan with the document channel. Richard "It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good books which are your very own." __ Sir Arthur Conan Doyle > On Nov 18, 2018, at 3:29 PM, kelby carlson wrote: > > After somewhat frequent use, I remain fairly unimpressed. The primary reason: > the document channel. My wife (sighted) has verified that more often than not > I am getting a page of text entirely in the picture and readable to the eye. > Nevertheless, my results are almost always inconsistent. Sometimes the > results are good, though almost never perfect. Other times they are terrible. > The inconsistency can happen even when the pictures are almost identical. We > have tried this on many, many documents. For reference: an iPhone 7 running > iOS 11.4. > > I would love to hear contrary testimonials. I have emailed this list in the > past with similar issues, and the response has been mostly along the lines of > "you must not be positioning correctly". But at this point I havehave had > many sighted people verify that in fact I (and they) are positioning the > camera correctly with bad results. > > Sent from my iPhone > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7C0654ea340ae44c15166c08d64dada78c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636781805560028291sdata=WBNk3MXdGI8YWFsUP%2FGEYNFlaQ1qytsj3uvSC2cnvls%3Dreserved=0 > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at > https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fgroup%2Fviphonedata=02%7C01%7C%7C0654ea340ae44c15166c08d64dada78c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636781805560028291sdata=4NBo5iX%2BlPya%2FyygBAUKo%2FHmC%2BRwK1QYFSR2P%2B6Il7M%3Dreserved=0. > For more options, visit > https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Foptoutdata=02%7C01%7C%7C0654ea340ae44c15166c08d64dada78c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636781805560028291sdata=0eC4x7rtNF887CbH2%2FliRNPrdYwO%2FV7D%2FNIUi0AL2Zk%3Dreserved=0. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
