RE: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!

[Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES)]

Hi,

Jjust tried to update  from software update and it says that the update failed 
for some reason.
Maybe too many people are trying to download it but it could also be something 
on our WIFI network I guess.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
John Diakogeorgiou
Sent: 16 September 2015 16:52
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!

I personally wouldn't hesitate updating to 9.0. Also I know that others 
disagree but I've never had any trouble updating without resetting the network 
settings. I highly doubt that Apple recommends this. It comes from a person who 
does a weekly Apple podcast. It doesn't hurt anything though.

On 9/16/15, Woody Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net> wrote:
>
> HI Neal,
>
> Sieghard is saying to do the Reset Network Settings and reconnect to
> your Wi-Fi before downloading the update.
>
> I hope that helps.
>
> Best,
> Anna
>
>
>> On Sep 16, 2015, at 10:14 AM, Neal Ewers <neal.ew...@ravenswood.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Sieghard. Here is my confusion. It sounds like you are updating on
>> your phone and the OS has already been downloaded to the phone. I
>> will be using iTunes to both download and update. Thus my confusion.
>> I need to get it downloaded. Now, perhaps if it is already on my
>> phone and I use iTunes to update, it will use the version that is
>> already on my phone, but it does not always appear that it does this.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Neal
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 9:59 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!
>>
>> Doing a Reset Network Settings will indeed disconnect you from your
>> WiFi, that is why I mention to make sure you know your password and
>> that after the phone reboots you will have to first reconnect to your
>> WiFi. You can’t do an iOS update via cellular, at least not a major
>> one like this, the file is much too big and if you go to Settings >
>> General > Software Updates without a WiFi connection, the option to
>> Download the update is greyed out.
>> Reset Network Settings is a good idea because while it may not be
>> necessary, it also won’t hurt and it may just prevent upgrade issues
>> you could potentially encounter. I find it’s such an easy thing to do
>> and it takes all of a minute or two to select the option, let the
>> phone reboot and reconnect to your WiFi that I find it well worth the effort.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>]
>> On Behalf Of Neal Ewers
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 7:51 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: RE: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!
>>
>> Sieghard, If you take out your Wi-Fi connection, doesn’t the phone
>> still have to connect to apple to download the update? So, it must
>> connect using cellular? Yes? No?
>>
>> Thanks much for all your wisdom.
>> Neal
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>]
>> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 11:54 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!
>>
>> Hi List,
>>
>> I want to respect Cara’s recent post about not disclosing information
>> about beta software and until some time around 10 AM Pacific Time
>> tomorrow iOS 9 is still in Beta.
>> However, I do feel I should put out a message of warning and caution,
>> so I will do so without mentioning any specific problems with iOS 9.
>>
>> I can, however, definitely say that problems exist just as they have
>> with other new iOS releases and while some seem to be more serious
>> for some testers than for others, they may very well effect a major
>> function or functions of your iPhone. I therefore want to suggest
>> that especially people who don’t like surprises or who hate to put up
>> with bugs to wait a few days before jumping onto this update. In any
>> case, upgrading on launch day can often be frustrating and slow due
>> to the huge nu

Re: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!

[Richard Turner]

Very good post Sieghard. You convinced me to wait.
I hate to be picky, but since you hardly ever make a mistake, I will point out 
that you meant iOS 8.4.1 not 8.1.4 as the current release.
Richard




> On Sep 15, 2015, at 9:54 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi List,
>  
> I want to respect Cara’s recent post about not disclosing information about 
> beta software and until some time around 10 AM Pacific Time tomorrow iOS 9 is 
> still in Beta.
> However, I do feel I should put out a message of warning and caution, so I 
> will do so without mentioning any specific problems with iOS 9.
>  
> I can, however, definitely say that problems exist just as they have with 
> other new iOS releases and while some seem to be more serious for some 
> testers than for others, they may very well effect a major function or 
> functions of your iPhone. I therefore want to suggest that especially people 
> who don’t like surprises or who hate to put up with bugs to wait a few days 
> before jumping onto this update. In any case, upgrading on launch day can 
> often be frustrating and slow due to the huge number of people who can’t wait 
> to get the new OS and if you wait a few days you can be more confident 
> nothing bad will happen. There will of course also be a detailed explanation 
> on Applevis what bugs exist and how they may or may not effect you. There 
> may, for example, be serious issues with braille displays, but if you are not 
> a braille user like me, you probably couldn’t care less. Maybe there is a 
> major problem with Voiceover freezing when making phone calls, but if you 
> mostly text and rarely call it may not be such a big deal to you whereas for 
> others it could be a total deal-breaker.
>  
> We all know how it is not exactly easy to go back to a previous version of 
> the OS and at best it is only possible for a fairly short time. Most of us 
> have heard about what new features iOS 9 brings and some of them are nice, 
> but believe me that there is nothing you can’t live without for a few days so 
> do yourself a favour and let those who don’t listen to what I have to say 
> upgrade first and then report all that is wrong. Of course there will also be 
> messages from people like Jonathan and other beta testers who have battled 
> the bugs for the last 3 months and who have reported them and tried to tell 
> Apple what needs fixing. But of course just as with iOS 8, Apple has not 
> acted on all of these reports and significant problems have survived until 
> launch day and will probably continuew to survive for several more updates.
>  
> If you do feel that you just can’t wait, at least do prepare for the upgrade 
> and maybe take a step or two you have not taken before and which you may 
> think is unnecessary. Here are the ones I recommend:
>  
> 1.   Go to the App Store on your phone, select the updates tab and make 
> sure all apps are updated.
> 2.   If you absolutely refuse to use iTunes, make sure you have an 
> up-to-date iCloud backup. If you don’t mind using iTunes, connect your phone, 
> go to File > Devices and select to “Transfer Purchases” in order to make sure 
> any updated apps or other items are transferred to your iTunes library.
> 3.   Once this has finished, again go to File > Devices and select to 
> “Sync”
> 4.   Once syncing has finished, go back to File > Devices one last time 
> and select to backup your phone. I highly recommend that you first go to your 
> device section, tab to the appropriate checkbox on the Summary tab and check 
> to make an encrypted backup. Enter a password you remember, tab once and 
> reenter it, then tab to OK. You only have to do this once, any backup you 
> make after this will be encrypted using the same password you set.
> 5.   Once all this is done, bring up the app switcher and remove/quit all 
> apps.
> 6.   I highly recommend to next go to Settings > General > Reset and to 
> select “Reset Network Settings”. This will ask for a confirmation and then 
> reboot your phone. Reset Network Settings often fixes many issues and doing 
> this before an update may very well prevent you from having issues to begin 
> with. Remember that after your phone reboots, you have to go to Settings > 
> WiFi and reconnect to your WiFi and of course if your WiFi is protected by a 
> password which is most likely the case, make sure you know said password. 
> Also, if you have changed your iPhone’s name in Settings > General > About, 
> doing a Reset Network Settings will erase this name and replace it with the 
> default which simply is “iPhone”. You can just go ahead and change it back to 
> whatever you want it to be.
> 7.   Now you are well prepared for the upgrade, once again I recommend 
> for a major update to a new version of the OS to use iTunes. If your phone is 
> still connected, all you have to do is go to the device section, tab to 
> “Check for Updates” and activate it. If iOS 9 has 

Re: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!

['SammieDogsMom' via VIPhone]

Thank you for your post. While there may be some new things, I think I can wait 
for the bugs to  be worked out. I like the way my phone is behaving at this 
time, and if it is not broke, why fix it. 

Liz Ulrich and Leader Dog Sammie


Westwood Church of God Prayer Chain Coordinator 

http://www.facebook.com/elizabeth.ulrich.1
Sent from my very intelligent ParrotHead of an IPhone

> On Sep 16, 2015, at 5:51 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Very good post Sieghard. You convinced me to wait.
> I hate to be picky, but since you hardly ever make a mistake, I will point 
> out that you meant iOS 8.4.1 not 8.1.4 as the current release.
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 15, 2015, at 9:54 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi List,
>>  
>> I want to respect Cara’s recent post about not disclosing information about 
>> beta software and until some time around 10 AM Pacific Time tomorrow iOS 9 
>> is still in Beta.
>> However, I do feel I should put out a message of warning and caution, so I 
>> will do so without mentioning any specific problems with iOS 9.
>>  
>> I can, however, definitely say that problems exist just as they have with 
>> other new iOS releases and while some seem to be more serious for some 
>> testers than for others, they may very well effect a major function or 
>> functions of your iPhone. I therefore want to suggest that especially people 
>> who don’t like surprises or who hate to put up with bugs to wait a few days 
>> before jumping onto this update. In any case, upgrading on launch day can 
>> often be frustrating and slow due to the huge number of people who can’t 
>> wait to get the new OS and if you wait a few days you can be more confident 
>> nothing bad will happen. There will of course also be a detailed explanation 
>> on Applevis what bugs exist and how they may or may not effect you. There 
>> may, for example, be serious issues with braille displays, but if you are 
>> not a braille user like me, you probably couldn’t care less. Maybe there is 
>> a major problem with Voiceover freezing when making phone calls, but if you 
>> mostly text and rarely call it may not be such a big deal to you whereas for 
>> others it could be a total deal-breaker.
>>  
>> We all know how it is not exactly easy to go back to a previous version of 
>> the OS and at best it is only possible for a fairly short time. Most of us 
>> have heard about what new features iOS 9 brings and some of them are nice, 
>> but believe me that there is nothing you can’t live without for a few days 
>> so do yourself a favour and let those who don’t listen to what I have to say 
>> upgrade first and then report all that is wrong. Of course there will also 
>> be messages from people like Jonathan and other beta testers who have 
>> battled the bugs for the last 3 months and who have reported them and tried 
>> to tell Apple what needs fixing. But of course just as with iOS 8, Apple has 
>> not acted on all of these reports and significant problems have survived 
>> until launch day and will probably continuew to survive for several more 
>> updates.
>>  
>> If you do feel that you just can’t wait, at least do prepare for the upgrade 
>> and maybe take a step or two you have not taken before and which you may 
>> think is unnecessary. Here are the ones I recommend:
>>  
>> 1.   Go to the App Store on your phone, select the updates tab and make 
>> sure all apps are updated.
>> 2.   If you absolutely refuse to use iTunes, make sure you have an 
>> up-to-date iCloud backup. If you don’t mind using iTunes, connect your 
>> phone, go to File > Devices and select to “Transfer Purchases” in order to 
>> make sure any updated apps or other items are transferred to your iTunes 
>> library.
>> 3.   Once this has finished, again go to File > Devices and select to 
>> “Sync”
>> 4.   Once syncing has finished, go back to File > Devices one last time 
>> and select to backup your phone. I highly recommend that you first go to 
>> your device section, tab to the appropriate checkbox on the Summary tab and 
>> check to make an encrypted backup. Enter a password you remember, tab once 
>> and reenter it, then tab to OK. You only have to do this once, any backup 
>> you make after this will be encrypted using the same password you set.
>> 5.   Once all this is done, bring up the app switcher and remove/quit 
>> all apps.
>> 6.   I highly recommend to next go to Settings > General > Reset and to 
>> select “Reset Network Settings”. This will ask for a confirmation and then 
>> reboot your phone. Reset Network Settings often fixes many issues and doing 
>> this before an update may very well prevent you from having issues to begin 
>> with. Remember that after your phone reboots, you have to go to Settings > 
>> WiFi and reconnect to your WiFi and of course if your WiFi is protected by a 
>> password which is most likely the case, make sure you know said 

Re: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!

[Dr. Harshit Jaithwar]

Thanks Sieghard for warning us all! I'm also convinced to wait only before
hopping on so early.


On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 4:02 PM, 'SammieDogsMom' via VIPhone <
viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>
> Thank you for your post. While there may be some new things, I think I can
> wait for the bugs to be worked out. I like the way my phone is behaving at
> this time, and if it is not broke, why fix it.
>
> Liz Ulrich and Leader Dog Sammie
>
>
> Westwood Church of God Prayer Chain Coordinator
>
> http://www.facebook.com/elizabeth.ulrich.1
> Sent from my very intelligent ParrotHead of an IPhone
>
> On Sep 16, 2015, at 5:51 AM, Richard Turner 
> wrote:
>
>
> Very good post Sieghard. You convinced me to wait.
> I hate to be picky, but since you hardly ever make a mistake, I will point
> out that you meant iOS 8.4.1 not 8.1.4 as the current release.
> Richard
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 15, 2015, at 9:54 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
> Hi List,
>
>
>
> I want to respect Cara’s recent post about not disclosing information
> about beta software and until some time around 10 AM Pacific Time tomorrow
> iOS 9 is still in Beta.
>
> However, I do feel I should put out a message of warning and caution, so I
> will do so without mentioning any specific problems with iOS 9.
>
>
>
> I can, however, definitely say that problems exist just as they have with
> other new iOS releases and while some seem to be more serious for some
> testers than for others, they may very well effect a major function or
> functions of your iPhone. I therefore want to suggest that especially
> people who don’t like surprises or who hate to put up with bugs to wait a
> few days before jumping onto this update. In any case, upgrading on launch
> day can often be frustrating and slow due to the huge number of people who
> can’t wait to get the new OS and if you wait a few days you can be more
> confident nothing bad will happen. There will of course also be a detailed
> explanation on Applevis what bugs exist and how they may or may not effect
> you. There may, for example, be serious issues with braille displays, but
> if you are not a braille user like me, you probably couldn’t care less.
> Maybe there is a major problem with Voiceover freezing when making phone
> calls, but if you mostly text and rarely call it may not be such a big deal
> to you whereas for others it could be a total deal-breaker.
>
>
>
> We all know how it is not exactly easy to go back to a previous version of
> the OS and at best it is only possible for a fairly short time. Most of us
> have heard about what new features iOS 9 brings and some of them are nice,
> but believe me that there is nothing you can’t live without for a few days
> so do yourself a favour and let those who don’t listen to what I have to
> say upgrade first and then report all that is wrong. Of course there will
> also be messages from people like Jonathan and other beta testers who have
> battled the bugs for the last 3 months and who have reported them and tried
> to tell Apple what needs fixing. But of course just as with iOS 8, Apple
> has not acted on all of these reports and significant problems have
> survived until launch day and will probably continuew to survive for
> several more updates.
>
>
>
> If you do feel that you just can’t wait, at least do prepare for the
> upgrade and maybe take a step or two you have not taken before and which
> you may think is unnecessary. Here are the ones I recommend:
>
>
>
> 1.   Go to the App Store on your phone, select the updates tab and
> make sure all apps are updated.
>
> 2.   If you absolutely refuse to use iTunes, make sure you have an
> up-to-date iCloud backup. If you don’t mind using iTunes, connect your
> phone, go to File > Devices and select to “Transfer Purchases” in order to
> make sure any updated apps or other items are transferred to your iTunes
> library.
>
> 3.   Once this has finished, again go to File > Devices and select to
> “Sync”
>
> 4.   Once syncing has finished, go back to File > Devices one last
> time and select to backup your phone. I highly recommend that you first go
> to your device section, tab to the appropriate checkbox on the Summary tab
> and check to make an encrypted backup. Enter a password you remember, tab
> once and reenter it, then tab to OK. You only have to do this once, any
> backup you make after this will be encrypted using the same password you
> set.
>
> 5.   Once all this is done, bring up the app switcher and remove/quit
> all apps.
>
> 6.   I highly recommend to next go to Settings > General > Reset and
> to select “Reset Network Settings”. This will ask for a confirmation and
> then reboot your phone. Reset Network Settings often fixes many issues and
> doing this before an update may very well prevent you from having issues to
> begin with. Remember that after your phone reboots, you have to go to
> Settings > WiFi and reconnect to your WiFi and 

RE: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Yes, Richard, I did indeed mean 8.4.1, I guess it was rather late when I wrote 
this *smile*.

I’m glad a fair number of people are indicating they are going to wait for at 
least a few days. I think later today or in the next day or two we’ll probably 
find a well documented post on Applevis.com outlining where the problems are so 
why risk the hassle.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 2:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!

 

 

Very good post Sieghard. You convinced me to wait.

I hate to be picky, but since you hardly ever make a mistake, I will point out 
that you meant iOS 8.4.1 not 8.1.4 as the current release.

Richard






On Sep 15, 2015, at 9:54 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca 
<mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

Hi List,

 

I want to respect Cara’s recent post about not disclosing information about 
beta software and until some time around 10 AM Pacific Time tomorrow iOS 9 is 
still in Beta.

However, I do feel I should put out a message of warning and caution, so I will 
do so without mentioning any specific problems with iOS 9.

 

I can, however, definitely say that problems exist just as they have with other 
new iOS releases and while some seem to be more serious for some testers than 
for others, they may very well effect a major function or functions of your 
iPhone. I therefore want to suggest that especially people who don’t like 
surprises or who hate to put up with bugs to wait a few days before jumping 
onto this update. In any case, upgrading on launch day can often be frustrating 
and slow due to the huge number of people who can’t wait to get the new OS and 
if you wait a few days you can be more confident nothing bad will happen. There 
will of course also be a detailed explanation on Applevis what bugs exist and 
how they may or may not effect you. There may, for example, be serious issues 
with braille displays, but if you are not a braille user like me, you probably 
couldn’t care less. Maybe there is a major problem with Voiceover freezing when 
making phone calls, but if you mostly text and rarely call it may not be such a 
big deal to you whereas for others it could be a total deal-breaker.

 

We all know how it is not exactly easy to go back to a previous version of the 
OS and at best it is only possible for a fairly short time. Most of us have 
heard about what new features iOS 9 brings and some of them are nice, but 
believe me that there is nothing you can’t live without for a few days so do 
yourself a favour and let those who don’t listen to what I have to say upgrade 
first and then report all that is wrong. Of course there will also be messages 
from people like Jonathan and other beta testers who have battled the bugs for 
the last 3 months and who have reported them and tried to tell Apple what needs 
fixing. But of course just as with iOS 8, Apple has not acted on all of these 
reports and significant problems have survived until launch day and will 
probably continuew to survive for several more updates.

 

If you do feel that you just can’t wait, at least do prepare for the upgrade 
and maybe take a step or two you have not taken before and which you may think 
is unnecessary. Here are the ones I recommend:

 

1.   Go to the App Store on your phone, select the updates tab and make 
sure all apps are updated.

2.   If you absolutely refuse to use iTunes, make sure you have an 
up-to-date iCloud backup. If you don’t mind using iTunes, connect your phone, 
go to File > Devices and select to “Transfer Purchases” in order to make sure 
any updated apps or other items are transferred to your iTunes library.

3.   Once this has finished, again go to File > Devices and select to “Sync”

4.   Once syncing has finished, go back to File > Devices one last time and 
select to backup your phone. I highly recommend that you first go to your 
device section, tab to the appropriate checkbox on the Summary tab and check to 
make an encrypted backup. Enter a password you remember, tab once and reenter 
it, then tab to OK. You only have to do this once, any backup you make after 
this will be encrypted using the same password you set.

5.   Once all this is done, bring up the app switcher and remove/quit all 
apps.

6.   I highly recommend to next go to Settings > General > Reset and to 
select “Reset Network Settings”. This will ask for a confirmation and then 
reboot your phone. Reset Network Settings often fixes many issues and doing 
this before an update may very well prevent you from having issues to begin 
with. Remember that after your phone reboots, you have to go to Settings > WiFi 
and reconnect to your WiFi and of course if your WiFi is protected by a 
password which is most likely the case, make sure you know said password. A

RE: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!

[Neal Ewers]

Sieghard, If you take out your Wi-Fi connection, doesn’t the phone still have 
to connect to apple to download the update? So, it must connect using cellular? 
Yes? No?
 
Thanks much for all your wisdom.
Neal
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 11:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!
 
Hi List,
 
I want to respect Cara’s recent post about not disclosing information about 
beta software and until some time around 10 AM Pacific Time tomorrow iOS 9 is 
still in Beta.
However, I do feel I should put out a message of warning and caution, so I will 
do so without mentioning any specific problems with iOS 9.
 
I can, however, definitely say that problems exist just as they have with other 
new iOS releases and while some seem to be more serious for some testers than 
for others, they may very well effect a major function or functions of your 
iPhone. I therefore want to suggest that especially people who don’t like 
surprises or who hate to put up with bugs to wait a few days before jumping 
onto this update. In any case, upgrading on launch day can often be frustrating 
and slow due to the huge number of people who can’t wait to get the new OS and 
if you wait a few days you can be more confident nothing bad will happen. There 
will of course also be a detailed explanation on Applevis what bugs exist and 
how they may or may not effect you. There may, for example, be serious issues 
with braille displays, but if you are not a braille user like me, you probably 
couldn’t care less. Maybe there is a major problem with Voiceover freezing when 
making phone calls, but if you mostly text and rarely call it may not be such a 
big deal to you whereas for others it could be a total deal-breaker.
 
We all know how it is not exactly easy to go back to a previous version of the 
OS and at best it is only possible for a fairly short time. Most of us have 
heard about what new features iOS 9 brings and some of them are nice, but 
believe me that there is nothing you can’t live without for a few days so do 
yourself a favour and let those who don’t listen to what I have to say upgrade 
first and then report all that is wrong. Of course there will also be messages 
from people like Jonathan and other beta testers who have battled the bugs for 
the last 3 months and who have reported them and tried to tell Apple what needs 
fixing. But of course just as with iOS 8, Apple has not acted on all of these 
reports and significant problems have survived until launch day and will 
probably continuew to survive for several more updates.
 
If you do feel that you just can’t wait, at least do prepare for the upgrade 
and maybe take a step or two you have not taken before and which you may think 
is unnecessary. Here are the ones I recommend:
 
1.   Go to the App Store on your phone, select the updates tab and make 
sure all apps are updated.
2.   If you absolutely refuse to use iTunes, make sure you have an 
up-to-date iCloud backup. If you don’t mind using iTunes, connect your phone, 
go to File > Devices and select to “Transfer Purchases” in order to make sure 
any updated apps or other items are transferred to your iTunes library.
3.   Once this has finished, again go to File > Devices and select to “Sync”
4.   Once syncing has finished, go back to File > Devices one last time and 
select to backup your phone. I highly recommend that you first go to your 
device section, tab to the appropriate checkbox on the Summary tab and check to 
make an encrypted backup. Enter a password you remember, tab once and reenter 
it, then tab to OK. You only have to do this once, any backup you make after 
this will be encrypted using the same password you set.
5.   Once all this is done, bring up the app switcher and remove/quit all 
apps.
6.   I highly recommend to next go to Settings > General > Reset and to 
select “Reset Network Settings”. This will ask for a confirmation and then 
reboot your phone. Reset Network Settings often fixes many issues and doing 
this before an update may very well prevent you from having issues to begin 
with. Remember that after your phone reboots, you have to go to Settings > WiFi 
and reconnect to your WiFi and of course if your WiFi is protected by a 
password which is most likely the case, make sure you know said password. Also, 
if you have changed your iPhone’s name in Settings > General > About, doing a 
Reset Network Settings will erase this name and replace it with the default 
which simply is “iPhone”. You can just go ahead and change it back to whatever 
you want it to be.
7.   Now you are well prepared for the upgrade, once again I recommend for 
a major update to a new version of the OS to use iTunes. If your phone is still 
connected, all you have to do is go to the device section, tab to “Check for 
Updates” and 

Re: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!

[Pete Nalda]

I've been having a problem with Zoom locking up my phone randomly when using 
the controller. I'm almost tempted to do the update to see if this gets fixed, 
along with playing with all the new features. May still wait a day though. 

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
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> On Sep 16, 2015, at 10:01 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> Yes, Richard, I did indeed mean 8.4.1, I guess it was rather late when I 
> wrote this *smile*.
> I’m glad a fair number of people are indicating they are going to wait for at 
> least a few days. I think later today or in the next day or two we’ll 
> probably find a well documented post on Applevis.com outlining where the 
> problems are so why risk the hassle.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 2:52 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!
>  
>  
> Very good post Sieghard. You convinced me to wait.
> I hate to be picky, but since you hardly ever make a mistake, I will point 
> out that you meant iOS 8.4.1 not 8.1.4 as the current release.
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 15, 2015, at 9:54 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> Hi List,
>  
> I want to respect Cara’s recent post about not disclosing information about 
> beta software and until some time around 10 AM Pacific Time tomorrow iOS 9 is 
> still in Beta.
> However, I do feel I should put out a message of warning and caution, so I 
> will do so without mentioning any specific problems with iOS 9.
>  
> I can, however, definitely say that problems exist just as they have with 
> other new iOS releases and while some seem to be more serious for some 
> testers than for others, they may very well effect a major function or 
> functions of your iPhone. I therefore want to suggest that especially people 
> who don’t like surprises or who hate to put up with bugs to wait a few days 
> before jumping onto this update. In any case, upgrading on launch day can 
> often be frustrating and slow due to the huge number of people who can’t wait 
> to get the new OS and if you wait a few days you can be more confident 
> nothing bad will happen. There will of course also be a detailed explanation 
> on Applevis what bugs exist and how they may or may not effect you. There 
> may, for example, be serious issues with braille displays, but if you are not 
> a braille user like me, you probably couldn’t care less. Maybe there is a 
> major problem with Voiceover freezing when making phone calls, but if you 
> mostly text and rarely call it may not be such a big deal to you whereas for 
> others it could be a total deal-breaker.
>  
> We all know how it is not exactly easy to go back to a previous version of 
> the OS and at best it is only possible for a fairly short time. Most of us 
> have heard about what new features iOS 9 brings and some of them are nice, 
> but believe me that there is nothing you can’t live without for a few days so 
> do yourself a favour and let those who don’t listen to what I have to say 
> upgrade first and then report all that is wrong. Of course there will also be 
> messages from people like Jonathan and other beta testers who have battled 
> the bugs for the last 3 months and who have reported them and tried to tell 
> Apple what needs fixing. But of course just as with iOS 8, Apple has not 
> acted on all of these reports and significant problems have survived until 
> launch day and will probably continuew to survive for several more updates.
>  
> If you do feel that you just can’t wait, at least do prepare for the upgrade 
> and maybe take a step or two you have not taken before and which you may 
> think is unnecessary. Here are the ones I recommend:
>  
> 1.   Go to the App Store on your phone, select the updates tab and make 
> sure all apps are updated.
> 2.   If you absolutely refuse to use iTunes, make sure you have an 
> up-to-date iCloud backup. If you don’t mind using iTunes, connect your phone, 
> go to File > Devices and select to “Transfer Purchases” in order to make sure 
> any updated apps or other items are transferred to your iTunes library.
> 3.   Once this has finished, again go to File > Devices and select to 
> “Sync”
> 4.   Once syncing has finished, go back to File > Devices one last time 
> and select to backup your phone. I highly recommend that you first go to your 
> device section, tab to the appropriate checkbox on the Summary tab and check 
> to make an encrypted backup. Enter a password you re

RE: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Doing a Reset Network Settings will indeed disconnect you from your WiFi, that 
is why I mention to make sure you know your password and that after the phone 
reboots you will have to first reconnect to your WiFi. You can’t do an iOS 
update via cellular, at least not a major one like this, the file is much too 
big and if you go to Settings > General > Software Updates without a WiFi 
connection, the option to Download the update is greyed out.

Reset Network Settings is a good idea because while it may not be necessary, it 
also won’t hurt and it may just prevent upgrade issues you could potentially 
encounter. I find it’s such an easy thing to do and it takes all of a minute or 
two to select the option, let the phone reboot and reconnect to your WiFi that 
I find it well worth the effort.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Neal Ewers
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 7:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!

 

Sieghard, If you take out your Wi-Fi connection, doesn’t the phone still have 
to connect to apple to download the update? So, it must connect using cellular? 
Yes? No?

 

Thanks much for all your wisdom.

Neal

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 11:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!

 

Hi List,

 

I want to respect Cara’s recent post about not disclosing information about 
beta software and until some time around 10 AM Pacific Time tomorrow iOS 9 is 
still in Beta.

However, I do feel I should put out a message of warning and caution, so I will 
do so without mentioning any specific problems with iOS 9.

 

I can, however, definitely say that problems exist just as they have with other 
new iOS releases and while some seem to be more serious for some testers than 
for others, they may very well effect a major function or functions of your 
iPhone. I therefore want to suggest that especially people who don’t like 
surprises or who hate to put up with bugs to wait a few days before jumping 
onto this update. In any case, upgrading on launch day can often be frustrating 
and slow due to the huge number of people who can’t wait to get the new OS and 
if you wait a few days you can be more confident nothing bad will happen. There 
will of course also be a detailed explanation on Applevis what bugs exist and 
how they may or may not effect you. There may, for example, be serious issues 
with braille displays, but if you are not a braille user like me, you probably 
couldn’t care less. Maybe there is a major problem with Voiceover freezing when 
making phone calls, but if you mostly text and rarely call it may not be such a 
big deal to you whereas for others it could be a total deal-breaker.

 

We all know how it is not exactly easy to go back to a previous version of the 
OS and at best it is only possible for a fairly short time. Most of us have 
heard about what new features iOS 9 brings and some of them are nice, but 
believe me that there is nothing you can’t live without for a few days so do 
yourself a favour and let those who don’t listen to what I have to say upgrade 
first and then report all that is wrong. Of course there will also be messages 
from people like Jonathan and other beta testers who have battled the bugs for 
the last 3 months and who have reported them and tried to tell Apple what needs 
fixing. But of course just as with iOS 8, Apple has not acted on all of these 
reports and significant problems have survived until launch day and will 
probably continuew to survive for several more updates.

 

If you do feel that you just can’t wait, at least do prepare for the upgrade 
and maybe take a step or two you have not taken before and which you may think 
is unnecessary. Here are the ones I recommend:

 

1.   Go to the App Store on your phone, select the updates tab and make 
sure all apps are updated.

2.   If you absolutely refuse to use iTunes, make sure you have an 
up-to-date iCloud backup. If you don’t mind using iTunes, connect your phone, 
go to File > Devices and select to “Transfer Purchases” in order to make sure 
any updated apps or other items are transferred to your iTunes library.

3.   Once this has finished, again go to File > Devices and select to “Sync”

4.   Once syncing has finished, go back to File > Devices one last time and 
select to backup your phone. I highly recommend that you first go to your 
device section, tab to the appropriate checkbox on the Summary tab and check to 
make an encrypted backup. Enter a password you remember, tab once and reenter 
it, then tab to OK. You only have to do this once, any backup you make after 
t

Re: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!

[John Diakogeorgiou]

I personally wouldn't hesitate updating to 9.0. Also I know that
others disagree but I've never had any trouble updating without
resetting the network settings. I highly doubt that Apple recommends
this. It comes from a person who does a weekly Apple podcast. It
doesn't hurt anything though.

On 9/16/15, Woody Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net> wrote:
>
> HI Neal,
>
> Sieghard is saying to do the Reset Network Settings and reconnect to your
> Wi-Fi before downloading the update.
>
> I hope that helps.
>
> Best,
> Anna
>
>
>> On Sep 16, 2015, at 10:14 AM, Neal Ewers <neal.ew...@ravenswood.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Sieghard. Here is my confusion. It sounds like you are updating on your
>> phone and the OS has already been downloaded to the phone. I will be using
>> iTunes to both download and update. Thus my confusion. I need to get it
>> downloaded. Now, perhaps if it is already on my phone and I use iTunes to
>> update, it will use the version that is already on my phone, but it does
>> not always appear that it does this.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Neal
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 9:59 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!
>>
>> Doing a Reset Network Settings will indeed disconnect you from your WiFi,
>> that is why I mention to make sure you know your password and that after
>> the phone reboots you will have to first reconnect to your WiFi. You can’t
>> do an iOS update via cellular, at least not a major one like this, the
>> file is much too big and if you go to Settings > General > Software
>> Updates without a WiFi connection, the option to Download the update is
>> greyed out.
>> Reset Network Settings is a good idea because while it may not be
>> necessary, it also won’t hurt and it may just prevent upgrade issues you
>> could potentially encounter. I find it’s such an easy thing to do and it
>> takes all of a minute or two to select the option, let the phone reboot
>> and reconnect to your WiFi that I find it well worth the effort.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On
>> Behalf Of Neal Ewers
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 7:51 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: RE: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!
>>
>> Sieghard, If you take out your Wi-Fi connection, doesn’t the phone still
>> have to connect to apple to download the update? So, it must connect using
>> cellular? Yes? No?
>>
>> Thanks much for all your wisdom.
>> Neal
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On
>> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 11:54 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!
>>
>> Hi List,
>>
>> I want to respect Cara’s recent post about not disclosing information
>> about beta software and until some time around 10 AM Pacific Time tomorrow
>> iOS 9 is still in Beta.
>> However, I do feel I should put out a message of warning and caution, so I
>> will do so without mentioning any specific problems with iOS 9.
>>
>> I can, however, definitely say that problems exist just as they have with
>> other new iOS releases and while some seem to be more serious for some
>> testers than for others, they may very well effect a major function or
>> functions of your iPhone. I therefore want to suggest that especially
>> people who don’t like surprises or who hate to put up with bugs to wait a
>> few days before jumping onto this update. In any case, upgrading on launch
>> day can often be frustrating and slow due to the huge number of people who
>> can’t wait to get the new OS and if you wait a few days you can be more
>> confident nothing bad will happen. There will of course also be a detailed
>> explanation on Applevis what bugs exist and how they may or may not effect
>> you. There may, for example, be serious issues with braille displays, but
>> if you are not a braille user like me, you probably couldn’t care less.
>> Maybe there is a major problem with Voiceover freezing w

RE: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!

[Neal Ewers]

Sieghard. Here is my confusion. It sounds like you are updating on your phone 
and the OS has already been downloaded to the phone. I will be using iTunes to 
both download and update. Thus my confusion. I need to get it downloaded. Now, 
perhaps if it is already on my phone and I use iTunes to update, it will use 
the version that is already on my phone, but it does not always appear that it 
does this.
 
Thanks.
 
Neal
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 9:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!
 
Doing a Reset Network Settings will indeed disconnect you from your WiFi, that 
is why I mention to make sure you know your password and that after the phone 
reboots you will have to first reconnect to your WiFi. You can’t do an iOS 
update via cellular, at least not a major one like this, the file is much too 
big and if you go to Settings > General > Software Updates without a WiFi 
connection, the option to Download the update is greyed out.
Reset Network Settings is a good idea because while it may not be necessary, it 
also won’t hurt and it may just prevent upgrade issues you could potentially 
encounter. I find it’s such an easy thing to do and it takes all of a minute or 
two to select the option, let the phone reboot and reconnect to your WiFi that 
I find it well worth the effort.
 
Regards,
Sieghard
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Neal Ewers
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 7:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!
 
Sieghard, If you take out your Wi-Fi connection, doesn’t the phone still have 
to connect to apple to download the update? So, it must connect using cellular? 
Yes? No?
 
Thanks much for all your wisdom.
Neal
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 11:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!
 
Hi List,
 
I want to respect Cara’s recent post about not disclosing information about 
beta software and until some time around 10 AM Pacific Time tomorrow iOS 9 is 
still in Beta.
However, I do feel I should put out a message of warning and caution, so I will 
do so without mentioning any specific problems with iOS 9.
 
I can, however, definitely say that problems exist just as they have with other 
new iOS releases and while some seem to be more serious for some testers than 
for others, they may very well effect a major function or functions of your 
iPhone. I therefore want to suggest that especially people who don’t like 
surprises or who hate to put up with bugs to wait a few days before jumping 
onto this update. In any case, upgrading on launch day can often be frustrating 
and slow due to the huge number of people who can’t wait to get the new OS and 
if you wait a few days you can be more confident nothing bad will happen. There 
will of course also be a detailed explanation on Applevis what bugs exist and 
how they may or may not effect you. There may, for example, be serious issues 
with braille displays, but if you are not a braille user like me, you probably 
couldn’t care less. Maybe there is a major problem with Voiceover freezing when 
making phone calls, but if you mostly text and rarely call it may not be such a 
big deal to you whereas for others it could be a total deal-breaker.
 
We all know how it is not exactly easy to go back to a previous version of the 
OS and at best it is only possible for a fairly short time. Most of us have 
heard about what new features iOS 9 brings and some of them are nice, but 
believe me that there is nothing you can’t live without for a few days so do 
yourself a favour and let those who don’t listen to what I have to say upgrade 
first and then report all that is wrong. Of course there will also be messages 
from people like Jonathan and other beta testers who have battled the bugs for 
the last 3 months and who have reported them and tried to tell Apple what needs 
fixing. But of course just as with iOS 8, Apple has not acted on all of these 
reports and significant problems have survived until launch day and will 
probably continuew to survive for several more updates.
 
If you do feel that you just can’t wait, at least do prepare for the upgrade 
and maybe take a step or two you have not taken before and which you may think 
is unnecessary. Here are the ones I recommend:
 
1.   Go to the App Store on your phone, select the updates tab and make 
sure all apps are updated.
2.   If you absolutely refuse to use iTunes, make sure you hav

RE: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Neal,

 

If you update via iTunes which I think is a very good idea, it will definitely 
not use what is on your phone even if it has already been downloaded to your 
phone. If you check the progress in iTunes you will see that at first it is 
downloading the update, only once that is done will the actual update happen. 

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Neal Ewers
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 8:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!

 

Sieghard. Here is my confusion. It sounds like you are updating on your phone 
and the OS has already been downloaded to the phone. I will be using iTunes to 
both download and update. Thus my confusion. I need to get it downloaded. Now, 
perhaps if it is already on my phone and I use iTunes to update, it will use 
the version that is already on my phone, but it does not always appear that it 
does this.

 

Thanks.

 

Neal

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 9:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!

 

Doing a Reset Network Settings will indeed disconnect you from your WiFi, that 
is why I mention to make sure you know your password and that after the phone 
reboots you will have to first reconnect to your WiFi. You can’t do an iOS 
update via cellular, at least not a major one like this, the file is much too 
big and if you go to Settings > General > Software Updates without a WiFi 
connection, the option to Download the update is greyed out.

Reset Network Settings is a good idea because while it may not be necessary, it 
also won’t hurt and it may just prevent upgrade issues you could potentially 
encounter. I find it’s such an easy thing to do and it takes all of a minute or 
two to select the option, let the phone reboot and reconnect to your WiFi that 
I find it well worth the effort.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Neal Ewers
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 7:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!

 

Sieghard, If you take out your Wi-Fi connection, doesn’t the phone still have 
to connect to apple to download the update? So, it must connect using cellular? 
Yes? No?

 

Thanks much for all your wisdom.

Neal

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 11:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!

 

Hi List,

 

I want to respect Cara’s recent post about not disclosing information about 
beta software and until some time around 10 AM Pacific Time tomorrow iOS 9 is 
still in Beta.

However, I do feel I should put out a message of warning and caution, so I will 
do so without mentioning any specific problems with iOS 9.

 

I can, however, definitely say that problems exist just as they have with other 
new iOS releases and while some seem to be more serious for some testers than 
for others, they may very well effect a major function or functions of your 
iPhone. I therefore want to suggest that especially people who don’t like 
surprises or who hate to put up with bugs to wait a few days before jumping 
onto this update. In any case, upgrading on launch day can often be frustrating 
and slow due to the huge number of people who can’t wait to get the new OS and 
if you wait a few days you can be more confident nothing bad will happen. There 
will of course also be a detailed explanation on Applevis what bugs exist and 
how they may or may not effect you. There may, for example, be serious issues 
with braille displays, but if you are not a braille user like me, you probably 
couldn’t care less. Maybe there is a major problem with Voiceover freezing when 
making phone calls, but if you mostly text and rarely call it may not be such a 
big deal to you whereas for others it could be a total deal-breaker.

 

We all know how it is not exactly easy to go back to a previous version of the 
OS and at best it is only possible for a fairly short time. Most of us have 
heard about what new features iOS 9 brings and some of them are nice, but 
believe me that there is nothing you can’t live without for a few days so do 
yourself a favour and let those who don’t listen to what I have to say upgrade 
first and then report all that is wrong. Of course there will also be messages 
from people like Jonathan and ot

Re: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!

[Woody Anna Dresner]

HI Neal,

Sieghard is saying to do the Reset Network Settings and reconnect to your Wi-Fi 
before downloading the update.

I hope that helps.

Best,
Anna


> On Sep 16, 2015, at 10:14 AM, Neal Ewers <neal.ew...@ravenswood.org> wrote:
> 
> Sieghard. Here is my confusion. It sounds like you are updating on your phone 
> and the OS has already been downloaded to the phone. I will be using iTunes 
> to both download and update. Thus my confusion. I need to get it downloaded. 
> Now, perhaps if it is already on my phone and I use iTunes to update, it will 
> use the version that is already on my phone, but it does not always appear 
> that it does this.
>  
> Thanks.
>  
> Neal
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 9:59 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!
>  
> Doing a Reset Network Settings will indeed disconnect you from your WiFi, 
> that is why I mention to make sure you know your password and that after the 
> phone reboots you will have to first reconnect to your WiFi. You can’t do an 
> iOS update via cellular, at least not a major one like this, the file is much 
> too big and if you go to Settings > General > Software Updates without a WiFi 
> connection, the option to Download the update is greyed out.
> Reset Network Settings is a good idea because while it may not be necessary, 
> it also won’t hurt and it may just prevent upgrade issues you could 
> potentially encounter. I find it’s such an easy thing to do and it takes all 
> of a minute or two to select the option, let the phone reboot and reconnect 
> to your WiFi that I find it well worth the effort.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf 
> Of Neal Ewers
> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 7:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!
>  
> Sieghard, If you take out your Wi-Fi connection, doesn’t the phone still have 
> to connect to apple to download the update? So, it must connect using 
> cellular? Yes? No?
>  
> Thanks much for all your wisdom.
> Neal
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf 
> Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 11:54 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!
>  
> Hi List,
>  
> I want to respect Cara’s recent post about not disclosing information about 
> beta software and until some time around 10 AM Pacific Time tomorrow iOS 9 is 
> still in Beta.
> However, I do feel I should put out a message of warning and caution, so I 
> will do so without mentioning any specific problems with iOS 9.
>  
> I can, however, definitely say that problems exist just as they have with 
> other new iOS releases and while some seem to be more serious for some 
> testers than for others, they may very well effect a major function or 
> functions of your iPhone. I therefore want to suggest that especially people 
> who don’t like surprises or who hate to put up with bugs to wait a few days 
> before jumping onto this update. In any case, upgrading on launch day can 
> often be frustrating and slow due to the huge number of people who can’t wait 
> to get the new OS and if you wait a few days you can be more confident 
> nothing bad will happen. There will of course also be a detailed explanation 
> on Applevis what bugs exist and how they may or may not effect you. There 
> may, for example, be serious issues with braille displays, but if you are not 
> a braille user like me, you probably couldn’t care less. Maybe there is a 
> major problem with Voiceover freezing when making phone calls, but if you 
> mostly text and rarely call it may not be such a big deal to you whereas for 
> others it could be a total deal-breaker.
>  
> We all know how it is not exactly easy to go back to a previous version of 
> the OS and at best it is only possible for a fairly short time. Most of us 
> have heard about what new features iOS 9 brings and some of them are nice, 
> but believe me that there is nothing you can’t live without for a few days so 
> do yourself a favour and let those who don’t listen to what I have to say 
> upgrade first and then report all that is wrong. Of course there will also be 
>

Re: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!

[Jonathan Mosen]

For those who purchased iOS 9 Without the Eye, you will already have received 
both the book, and some reasons why you might want to be cautious. They are 
very real.
I must say that I have never heard anyone at Apple, or any tech support 
document I have read, advise that it's necessary to reset network settings. And 
I think it's something most users aren't going to do. I've personally never 
done it before an update and have never seen any evidence that it is necessary.
Jonathan Mosen
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RE: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!

[Neal Ewers]

Hi Anna, yes, that helps a lot. It’s a piece of information that I think is 
very important to know and to understand.
 
Neal
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Woody Anna Dresner
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 10:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!
 
 
HI Neal,
 
Sieghard is saying to do the Reset Network Settings and reconnect to your Wi-Fi 
before downloading the update.
 
I hope that helps.
 
Best,
Anna
 
 
On Sep 16, 2015, at 10:14 AM, Neal Ewers <neal.ew...@ravenswood.org 
<mailto:neal.ew...@ravenswood.org> > wrote:
 
Sieghard. Here is my confusion. It sounds like you are updating on your phone 
and the OS has already been downloaded to the phone. I will be using iTunes to 
both download and update. Thus my confusion. I need to get it downloaded. Now, 
perhaps if it is already on my phone and I use iTunes to update, it will use 
the version that is already on my phone, but it does not always appear that it 
does this.
 
Thanks.
 
Neal
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 9:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!
 
Doing a Reset Network Settings will indeed disconnect you from your WiFi, that 
is why I mention to make sure you know your password and that after the phone 
reboots you will have to first reconnect to your WiFi. You can’t do an iOS 
update via cellular, at least not a major one like this, the file is much too 
big and if you go to Settings > General > Software Updates without a WiFi 
connection, the option to Download the update is greyed out.
Reset Network Settings is a good idea because while it may not be necessary, it 
also won’t hurt and it may just prevent upgrade issues you could potentially 
encounter. I find it’s such an easy thing to do and it takes all of a minute or 
two to select the option, let the phone reboot and reconnect to your WiFi that 
I find it well worth the effort.
 
Regards,
Sieghard
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Neal Ewers
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 7:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!
 
Sieghard, If you take out your Wi-Fi connection, doesn’t the phone still have 
to connect to apple to download the update? So, it must connect using cellular? 
Yes? No?
 
Thanks much for all your wisdom.
Neal
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 11:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!
 
Hi List,
 
I want to respect Cara’s recent post about not disclosing information about 
beta software and until some time around 10 AM Pacific Time tomorrow iOS 9 is 
still in Beta.
However, I do feel I should put out a message of warning and caution, so I will 
do so without mentioning any specific problems with iOS 9.
 
I can, however, definitely say that problems exist just as they have with other 
new iOS releases and while some seem to be more serious for some testers than 
for others, they may very well effect a major function or functions of your 
iPhone. I therefore want to suggest that especially people who don’t like 
surprises or who hate to put up with bugs to wait a few days before jumping 
onto this update. In any case, upgrading on launch day can often be frustrating 
and slow due to the huge number of people who can’t wait to get the new OS and 
if you wait a few days you can be more confident nothing bad will happen. There 
will of course also be a detailed explanation on Applevis what bugs exist and 
how they may or may not effect you. There may, for example, be serious issues 
with braille displays, but if you are not a braille user like me, you probably 
couldn’t care less. Maybe there is a major problem with Voiceover freezing when 
making phone calls, but if you mostly text and rarely call it may not be such a 
big deal to you whereas for others it could be a total deal-breaker.
 
We all know how it is not exactly easy to go back to a previous version of the 
OS and at best it is only possible for a fairly short time. Most of us have 
heard about what new features iOS 9 brings and some of them are nice, but 
believe me that there is nothing you can’t live without for a few days so do 
yourself a favour and let those who don’t listen to what I have to say upgrade 
first and then report all that is wrong. Of course there will also be messages 
fro

RE: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!

[Neal Ewers]

Jonathan. I have never done this either. I do follow all the other mentioned 
suggestions, however.
 
Neal
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 10:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!
 
For those who purchased iOS 9 Without the Eye, you will already have received 
both the book, and some reasons why you might want to be cautious. They are 
very real.
I must say that I have never heard anyone at Apple, or any tech support 
document I have read, advise that it's necessary to reset network settings. And 
I think it's something most users aren't going to do. I've personally never 
done it before an update and have never seen any evidence that it is necessary.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org
 
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RE: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!

[Neal Ewers]

This is exactly why I kept my iPhone 5 when I got my iPhone 6. I may wait a few 
days after the rush, but I will then likely update my 5 and see how it goes.

Neal


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dacia Cole
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 11:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!

I think I will wait a few days before updating.  Thank you so much for your 
suggestions.

Dacia

On 9/16/15, John Diakogeorgiou <jdiakoge2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I personally wouldn't hesitate updating to 9.0. Also I know that 
> others disagree but I've never had any trouble updating without 
> resetting the network settings. I highly doubt that Apple recommends 
> this. It comes from a person who does a weekly Apple podcast. It 
> doesn't hurt anything though.
>
> On 9/16/15, Woody Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net> wrote:
>>
>> HI Neal,
>>
>> Sieghard is saying to do the Reset Network Settings and reconnect to 
>> your Wi-Fi before downloading the update.
>>
>> I hope that helps.
>>
>> Best,
>> Anna
>>
>>
>>> On Sep 16, 2015, at 10:14 AM, Neal Ewers <neal.ew...@ravenswood.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Sieghard. Here is my confusion. It sounds like you are updating on 
>>> your phone and the OS has already been downloaded to the phone. I 
>>> will be using iTunes to both download and update. Thus my confusion. 
>>> I need to get it downloaded. Now, perhaps if it is already on my 
>>> phone and I use iTunes to update, it will use the version that is 
>>> already on my phone, but it does not always appear that it does 
>>> this.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Neal
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 9:59 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!
>>>
>>> Doing a Reset Network Settings will indeed disconnect you from your 
>>> WiFi, that is why I mention to make sure you know your password and 
>>> that after the phone reboots you will have to first reconnect to 
>>> your WiFi. You can t do an iOS update via cellular, at least not a 
>>> major one like this, the file is much too big and if you go to 
>>> Settings > General > Software Updates without a WiFi connection, the 
>>> option to Download the update is greyed out.
>>> Reset Network Settings is a good idea because while it may not be 
>>> necessary, it also won t hurt and it may just prevent upgrade issues 
>>> you could potentially encounter. I find it s such an easy thing to 
>>> do and it takes all of a minute or two to select the option, let the 
>>> phone reboot and reconnect to your WiFi that I find it well worth the 
>>> effort.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] 
>>> On Behalf Of Neal Ewers
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 7:51 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: RE: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!
>>>
>>> Sieghard, If you take out your Wi-Fi connection, doesn t the phone 
>>> still have to connect to apple to download the update? So, it must 
>>> connect using cellular? Yes? No?
>>>
>>> Thanks much for all your wisdom.
>>> Neal
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] 
>>> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 11:54 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!
>>>
>>> Hi List,
>>>
>>> I want to respect Cara s recent post about not disclosing 
>>> information about beta software and until some time around 10 AM 
>>> Pacific Time tomorrow iOS 9 is still in Beta.
>>> However, I do feel I should put out a message of warning and 
>>> caution, so I will do so without mentioning any specific problems 
>>> with iOS 9.
>>>
>>> I can, however, de

Re: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!

[Mary Otten]

Hi John,
I'm curious if you have been beta testing iOS 9 with some of the others who are 
advising caution. Clearly, if there are bugs in accessibility features, the 
severity of those for each individual user will vary, depending on how they use 
their device. And I know you still can't talk about it. But I am curious for 
those beta testers out there how many of you are going to be upgrading as soon 
as possible or as soon as the server lets you or whatever.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 16, 2015, at 8:51 AM, John Diakogeorgiou <jdiakoge2...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> I personally wouldn't hesitate updating to 9.0. Also I know that
> others disagree but I've never had any trouble updating without
> resetting the network settings. I highly doubt that Apple recommends
> this. It comes from a person who does a weekly Apple podcast. It
> doesn't hurt anything though.
> 
>> On 9/16/15, Woody Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net> wrote:
>> 
>> HI Neal,
>> 
>> Sieghard is saying to do the Reset Network Settings and reconnect to your
>> Wi-Fi before downloading the update.
>> 
>> I hope that helps.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 16, 2015, at 10:14 AM, Neal Ewers <neal.ew...@ravenswood.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sieghard. Here is my confusion. It sounds like you are updating on your
>>> phone and the OS has already been downloaded to the phone. I will be using
>>> iTunes to both download and update. Thus my confusion. I need to get it
>>> downloaded. Now, perhaps if it is already on my phone and I use iTunes to
>>> update, it will use the version that is already on my phone, but it does
>>> not always appear that it does this.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Neal
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 9:59 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!
>>> 
>>> Doing a Reset Network Settings will indeed disconnect you from your WiFi,
>>> that is why I mention to make sure you know your password and that after
>>> the phone reboots you will have to first reconnect to your WiFi. You can’t
>>> do an iOS update via cellular, at least not a major one like this, the
>>> file is much too big and if you go to Settings > General > Software
>>> Updates without a WiFi connection, the option to Download the update is
>>> greyed out.
>>> Reset Network Settings is a good idea because while it may not be
>>> necessary, it also won’t hurt and it may just prevent upgrade issues you
>>> could potentially encounter. I find it’s such an easy thing to do and it
>>> takes all of a minute or two to select the option, let the phone reboot
>>> and reconnect to your WiFi that I find it well worth the effort.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On
>>> Behalf Of Neal Ewers
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 7:51 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: RE: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!
>>> 
>>> Sieghard, If you take out your Wi-Fi connection, doesn’t the phone still
>>> have to connect to apple to download the update? So, it must connect using
>>> cellular? Yes? No?
>>> 
>>> Thanks much for all your wisdom.
>>> Neal
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On
>>> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 11:54 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!
>>> 
>>> Hi List,
>>> 
>>> I want to respect Cara’s recent post about not disclosing information
>>> about beta software and until some time around 10 AM Pacific Time tomorrow
>>> iOS 9 is still in Beta.
>>> However, I do feel I should put out a message of warning and caution, so I
>>> will do so without mentioning any specific problems with iOS 9.
>>> 
>>> I can, however, definitely say that problems exist just as they have wit

Re: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!

[Dacia Cole]

I think I will wait a few days before updating.  Thank you so much for
your suggestions.

Dacia

On 9/16/15, John Diakogeorgiou <jdiakoge2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I personally wouldn't hesitate updating to 9.0. Also I know that
> others disagree but I've never had any trouble updating without
> resetting the network settings. I highly doubt that Apple recommends
> this. It comes from a person who does a weekly Apple podcast. It
> doesn't hurt anything though.
>
> On 9/16/15, Woody Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net> wrote:
>>
>> HI Neal,
>>
>> Sieghard is saying to do the Reset Network Settings and reconnect to your
>> Wi-Fi before downloading the update.
>>
>> I hope that helps.
>>
>> Best,
>> Anna
>>
>>
>>> On Sep 16, 2015, at 10:14 AM, Neal Ewers <neal.ew...@ravenswood.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Sieghard. Here is my confusion. It sounds like you are updating on your
>>> phone and the OS has already been downloaded to the phone. I will be
>>> using
>>> iTunes to both download and update. Thus my confusion. I need to get it
>>> downloaded. Now, perhaps if it is already on my phone and I use iTunes
>>> to
>>> update, it will use the version that is already on my phone, but it does
>>> not always appear that it does this.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Neal
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 9:59 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!
>>>
>>> Doing a Reset Network Settings will indeed disconnect you from your
>>> WiFi,
>>> that is why I mention to make sure you know your password and that after
>>> the phone reboots you will have to first reconnect to your WiFi. You
>>> can’t
>>> do an iOS update via cellular, at least not a major one like this, the
>>> file is much too big and if you go to Settings > General > Software
>>> Updates without a WiFi connection, the option to Download the update is
>>> greyed out.
>>> Reset Network Settings is a good idea because while it may not be
>>> necessary, it also won’t hurt and it may just prevent upgrade issues you
>>> could potentially encounter. I find it’s such an easy thing to do and it
>>> takes all of a minute or two to select the option, let the phone reboot
>>> and reconnect to your WiFi that I find it well worth the effort.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On
>>> Behalf Of Neal Ewers
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 7:51 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: RE: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!
>>>
>>> Sieghard, If you take out your Wi-Fi connection, doesn’t the phone still
>>> have to connect to apple to download the update? So, it must connect
>>> using
>>> cellular? Yes? No?
>>>
>>> Thanks much for all your wisdom.
>>> Neal
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On
>>> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 11:54 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!
>>>
>>> Hi List,
>>>
>>> I want to respect Cara’s recent post about not disclosing information
>>> about beta software and until some time around 10 AM Pacific Time
>>> tomorrow
>>> iOS 9 is still in Beta.
>>> However, I do feel I should put out a message of warning and caution, so
>>> I
>>> will do so without mentioning any specific problems with iOS 9.
>>>
>>> I can, however, definitely say that problems exist just as they have
>>> with
>>> other new iOS releases and while some seem to be more serious for some
>>> testers than for others, they may very well effect a major function or
>>> functions of your iPhone. I therefore want to suggest that especially
>>> people who don’t like surprises or who hate to put up with bugs to wait

RE: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!

[Sieghard Weitzel]

As I said, it is not required or even recommended by Apple, but it seems to fix 
an amazing amount of weird issues which come up from time to time and since 
it’s not hard to do or a big inconvenience I rather do it even if it may have 
been perfectly fine otherwise. I guess if it does help avoid any issues I never 
know since I won’t have them. Apple also says it’s never necessary to quit apps 
from the app switcher, but we all know that when you don’t do this for months 
and maybe you have 30 or 40 apps open in there your device can do strange 
things or become slow or become prone to crashes. 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Neal Ewers
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 9:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!

 

Jonathan. I have never done this either. I do follow all the other mentioned 
suggestions, however.

 

Neal

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 10:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!

 

For those who purchased iOS 9 Without the Eye, you will already have received 
both the book, and some reasons why you might want to be cautious. They are 
very real.

I must say that I have never heard anyone at Apple, or any tech support 
document I have read, advise that it's necessary to reset network settings. And 
I think it's something most users aren't going to do. I've personally never 
done it before an update and have never seen any evidence that it is necessary.

Jonathan Mosen

Mosen Consulting

Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training

http://Mosen.org

 

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Re: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!

[wui chin Leong]

i have not had that problem when i down loaded iOS 9 all of my apps stayed in 
tacked

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Re: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!

[Michael McKay]

I have heard on the list earlier about people downloading I OS 9, and having 
their apps disappear on them. Or at least, that's the way I thought I heard it. 
Has a lot of people on the list been having trouble like this or is it few and 
far between. The reason I am asking is because I am a little leery and weary of 
downloading and installing iOS 9 until I know for sure. Would appreciate 
someone getting back to me concerning this.

Thanks much in advance!
Michael G. McKay PA, '05.
Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com

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> On Sep 16, 2015, at 19:58, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> As I said, it is not required or even recommended by Apple, but it seems to 
> fix an amazing amount of weird issues which come up from time to time and 
> since it’s not hard to do or a big inconvenience I rather do it even if it 
> may have been perfectly fine otherwise. I guess if it does help avoid any 
> issues I never know since I won’t have them. Apple also says it’s never 
> necessary to quit apps from the app switcher, but we all know that when you 
> don’t do this for months and maybe you have 30 or 40 apps open in there your 
> device can do strange things or become slow or become prone to crashes.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Neal Ewers
> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 9:47 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!
>  
> Jonathan. I have never done this either. I do follow all the other mentioned 
> suggestions, however.
>  
> Neal
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Jonathan Mosen
> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 10:55 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iOS 9 is coming tomorrow... don't say you weren't warned!
>  
> For those who purchased iOS 9 Without the Eye, you will already have received 
> both the book, and some reasons why you might want to be cautious. They are 
> very real.
> I must say that I have never heard anyone at Apple, or any tech support 
> document I have read, advise that it's necessary to reset network settings. 
> And I think it's something most users aren't going to do. I've personally 
> never done it before an update and have never seen any evidence that it is 
> necessary.
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
> http://Mosen.org
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