Re: IOS 8.02 and VoiceOver

2014-09-27 Thread Kerri
The sticking numbers bug is erring its ugly head again.
Sent from my buggy iPhone




On Sep 26, 2014, at 5:50 AM, Nicki Keck jesusgir...@gmail.com wrote:

 The app store bug is still present, as is the sluggishness when inputting on
 a braille display.  Haven't gotten any calls yet so don't know about that
 one.  VO does seem a bit more responsive though.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Cathy Inglis
 Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 1:23 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: IOS 8.02 and VoiceOver
 
 I have updated to 8.02 and not any improvements at all. Still can not use
 the share function while texting.
 Cathy  and Tiny.
 
 On Sep 26, 2014, at 12:54 AM, Brett brettst...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I have just downloaded it. So far I have noticed that VoiceOver doesn't
 seem to crash as much. Also entering a space in braille seems a lot more
 reliable, although the issue still exists somewhat. 
 
 This is what I have noticed so far. I will report further, if I notice
 more improvements. 
 
 So far, I see no reason for those on IOS8 not to upgrade. 
 
 Cheers,
 Brett. 
 
 Sent with Siri from Brett's iPhone
 
 On 26 Sep 2014, at 2:15 pm, Shai shai...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello,
 Has anyone had a chance to download IOS 8.02 and if so, what 
 VoiceOver bugs have been resolved? I was particularly waiting for the 
 keypad and sharing issues to be addressed. Has anyone had a chance to 
 try these out and confirm whether or not they are still present?
 Thanks in advance for any responses
 
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RE: IOS 8.02 and VoiceOver

2014-09-26 Thread Tess
I am assuming that sense they didn't mention any VO updates in the list of
fixes, that you probably will not see much changes.
I would believe that the changes you wlil see fixed in the newist patch are
only the things they listed.
I wouldn't get my hopes up on VO changes until later.
JMHO

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Of Shai
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Subject: IOS 8.02 and VoiceOver

Hello,
Has anyone had a chance to download IOS 8.02 and if so, what VoiceOver
bugs have been resolved? I was particularly waiting for the keypad and
sharing issues to be addressed. Has anyone had a chance to try these
out and confirm whether or not they are still present?
Thanks in advance for any responses

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RE: IOS 8.02

2014-09-26 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
If you are talking about 8.0.2 then officially there are no improvements. A
few people have reported that Voiceover seems to crash less frequently and
seems more responsive. I don't know if my full restore on Sunday helped or
if it's an under-the-hood change in iOS 8.0.2, but it does appear so far
that I have no more issue with DialTones sticking when I dial a phone number
on the keypad. That alone is a very welcome improvement.

I think it's important we continue to send constructive emails to
accessibil...@apple.com asking for Voiceover fixes in iOS 8.0.3.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Of James Lockwood
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 5:38 AM
To: iphone group
Subject: IOS 8.02

Can someone who updates their phone to 8.0 to post a review of what you have
learned it changes or corrects about voiceover?


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RE: IOS 8.02 and VoiceOver

2014-09-26 Thread Nicki Keck
The app store bug is still present, as is the sluggishness when inputting on
a braille display.  Haven't gotten any calls yet so don't know about that
one.  VO does seem a bit more responsive though.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Cathy Inglis
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 1:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 8.02 and VoiceOver

I have updated to 8.02 and not any improvements at all. Still can not use
the share function while texting.
Cathy  and Tiny.

 On Sep 26, 2014, at 12:54 AM, Brett brettst...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I have just downloaded it. So far I have noticed that VoiceOver doesn't
seem to crash as much. Also entering a space in braille seems a lot more
reliable, although the issue still exists somewhat. 
 
 This is what I have noticed so far. I will report further, if I notice
more improvements. 
 
 So far, I see no reason for those on IOS8 not to upgrade. 
 
 Cheers,
 Brett. 
 
 Sent with Siri from Brett's iPhone
 
 On 26 Sep 2014, at 2:15 pm, Shai shai...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello,
 Has anyone had a chance to download IOS 8.02 and if so, what 
 VoiceOver bugs have been resolved? I was particularly waiting for the 
 keypad and sharing issues to be addressed. Has anyone had a chance to 
 try these out and confirm whether or not they are still present?
 Thanks in advance for any responses
 
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RE: IOS 8.02 and VoiceOver

2014-09-26 Thread Nicki Keck
My problem with Fleksy is that when I turn voiceover off, sometimes, even 
though I have speech feedback switched on, I get no speech at all.  I did at 
first, but then it stopped.  I had reinstalled it after not getting the speech 
feedback, and then I got it again, but then it stopped working again.  I truly 
wish I knew why.

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Chuck Dean
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Subject: Re: IOS 8.02 and VoiceOver

I also updated, and noticed that Fleksy still does not work with voiceover on. 
You have to turn voiceover off to get Fleksy to work at all. Then when I went 
to activate the menu, if Lexi crashed about three times. I'm not noticing much 
improvement.

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RE: IOS 8.02 and VoiceOver

2014-09-26 Thread Nicki Keck
I had the same problem.  You have to go into settings and general and
keyboards and make sure the allow access checkbox is checked.  I can't
remember the exact wording, but I hadn't done that and couldn't turn voice
feedback on.  Once I did that, I was able to turn it on.  However, like I
said previously, it is not working for me at all.

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Of Brett
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 1:54 AM
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Subject: Re: IOS 8.02 and VoiceOver

Well, how did you get Flexi to work without voice over running. I can't even
turn on the voicing option for Flexi.

Sent with Siri from Brett's iPhone

 On 26 Sep 2014, at 3:27 pm, Chuck Dean chuckd...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I also updated, and noticed that Fleksy still does not work with voiceover
on. You have to turn voiceover off to get Fleksy to work at all. Then when I
went to activate the menu, if Lexi crashed about three times. I'm not
noticing much improvement.
 
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flexy problems - Re: IOS 8.02 and VoiceOver

2014-09-26 Thread Charles Rivard
A more appropriate subject line.  A lot of people would miss these messages 
if they don't want to read what was in them based on the other one.


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Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 7:51 AM
Subject: RE: IOS 8.02 and VoiceOver


My problem with Fleksy is that when I turn voiceover off, sometimes, even 
though I have speech feedback switched on, I get no speech at all.  I did at 
first, but then it stopped.  I had reinstalled it after not getting the 
speech feedback, and then I got it again, but then it stopped working again. 
I truly wish I knew why.


-Original Message-
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Of Chuck Dean

Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 1:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 8.02 and VoiceOver

I also updated, and noticed that Fleksy still does not work with voiceover 
on. You have to turn voiceover off to get Fleksy to work at all. Then when I 
went to activate the menu, if Lexi crashed about three times. I'm not 
noticing much improvement.


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Re: IOS 8.02 and VoiceOver

2014-09-26 Thread Chuck Dean
I contacted Fleksy, who said the problems are on Apple's side, but they are 
trying to find a work around until another update is released. 

Chuck (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

 On Sep 26, 2014, at 5:52 AM, Nicki Keck jesusgir...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I had the same problem.  You have to go into settings and general and
 keyboards and make sure the allow access checkbox is checked.  I can't
 remember the exact wording, but I hadn't done that and couldn't turn voice
 feedback on.  Once I did that, I was able to turn it on.  However, like I
 said previously, it is not working for me at all.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Brett
 Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 1:54 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: IOS 8.02 and VoiceOver
 
 Well, how did you get Flexi to work without voice over running. I can't even
 turn on the voicing option for Flexi.
 
 Sent with Siri from Brett's iPhone
 
 On 26 Sep 2014, at 3:27 pm, Chuck Dean chuckd...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I also updated, and noticed that Fleksy still does not work with voiceover
 on. You have to turn voiceover off to get Fleksy to work at all. Then when I
 went to activate the menu, if Lexi crashed about three times. I'm not
 noticing much improvement.
 
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Re: IOS 8.02

2014-09-26 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hi,
The bug that i have reported to Apple Accessibility about Voiceover changing 
speed of speech when switching to a different language and not keeping the 
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this and other bugs, although we may have to be patient. Yes i know that's not 
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patient and as someone else said report bugs in a constructive manner.
/Krister

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Re: IOS 8.02 and VoiceOver

2014-09-26 Thread Russ Kiehne

It did not fix the following problem:

It appears as if when you activate any link on any web page in Safari when
running Voiceover, the moment you activate the Back button or use two–finger
scrub, complete instability occurs, it is not possible to flick through the
content of the page, no links or headings typically are being reported in 
the

rotor, and the page is generally just not navigable in any way.

-Original Message- 
From: Brett

Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 9:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 8.02 and VoiceOver

Hi,

I have just downloaded it. So far I have noticed that VoiceOver doesn't seem 
to crash as much. Also entering a space in braille seems a lot more 
reliable, although the issue still exists somewhat.


This is what I have noticed so far. I will report further, if I notice more 
improvements.


So far, I see no reason for those on IOS8 not to upgrade.

Cheers,
Brett.

Sent with Siri from Brett's iPhone


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Hello,
Has anyone had a chance to download IOS 8.02 and if so, what VoiceOver
bugs have been resolved? I was particularly waiting for the keypad and
sharing issues to be addressed. Has anyone had a chance to try these
out and confirm whether or not they are still present?
Thanks in advance for any responses

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Re: IOS 8.02

2014-09-26 Thread Barry Abbott
I am finding that when I go to move apps into folders I can't do it. I get the 
triple click but no other response. It is however, intermittent. Once in a blue 
moon I am able to move files in the folders. I have to report that in iOS 8.02 
on my iPhone five this bug has not been  I will be receiving my iPhone six 
today but do not expect that this will change at all.

Barryfixed.

Sent from Barry Abbott's  iPhone

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 The bug that i have reported to Apple Accessibility about Voiceover changing 
 speed of speech when switching to a different language and not keeping the 
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 fix this and other bugs, although we may have to be patient. Yes i know 
 that's not what some people would like to hear, still that's what we have to 
 do, be patient and as someone else said report bugs in a constructive manner.
 /Krister
 
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 Can someone who updates their phone to 8.0 to post a review of what you have 
 learned it changes or corrects about voiceover?
 
 
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Re: IOS 8.02

2014-09-26 Thread Jennie Facer
So far nothing. 

Jenn

TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMENE YOU 
ARE THE WORLD!

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 learned it changes or corrects about voiceover?
 
 
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Re: IOS 8.02

2014-09-26 Thread Hayri Tulumcu
set your speed to 0 in the speech settings under voiceover. do this for all 
your languages. you can now set your speed for all the voices at ones.
- Original Message - 
From: Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: IOS 8.02


Hi,
The bug that i have reported to Apple Accessibility about Voiceover changing 
speed of speech when switching to a different language and not keeping the 
speed i set is still present. I have hopes though that they will eventually 
fix this and other bugs, although we may have to be patient. Yes i know 
that's not what some people would like to hear, still that's what we have to 
do, be patient and as someone else said report bugs in a constructive 
manner.

/Krister


26 sep 2014 kl. 14:37 skrev James Lockwood lockwoo...@gmail.com:

Can someone who updates their phone to 8.0 to post a review of what you 
have learned it changes or corrects about voiceover?



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RE: ios 8.02 question

2014-09-26 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Lori,

There have been no Voiceover/accessibility fixes in iOS 8.0.2. I would suggest 
you wait a bit longer to see if 8.0.3 will fix some things. iOS 8 has 3 or 4 
nice features, but there is nothing earthshaddering in the short term that you 
can't live without.

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Subject: ios 8.02 question

Hi Sieghard,

I was wondering is ios 8.02 safe to update on my iPhone 5  or is some of the 
bugs been fixed in ios8?


Right now I'm still running ios 7.12. How does someone know when it's safe 
to update or not? I'm just wondering. Thanks.

Lori and the Gipper 

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Re: ios 8.02 question

2014-09-26 Thread Lori Dent

Hi Sieghard,

Thanks. I'm in no hurry so I will continue to wait. I just thought I would 
ask the question. Take care.


Lori and the Gipper 


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Re: IOS 8.02 and VoiceOver

2014-09-25 Thread Brett
Hi, 

I have just downloaded it. So far I have noticed that VoiceOver doesn't seem to 
crash as much. Also entering a space in braille seems a lot more reliable, 
although the issue still exists somewhat. 

This is what I have noticed so far. I will report further, if I notice more 
improvements. 

So far, I see no reason for those on IOS8 not to upgrade. 

Cheers, 
Brett. 

Sent with Siri from Brett's iPhone

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 Has anyone had a chance to download IOS 8.02 and if so, what VoiceOver
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Re: IOS 8.02 and VoiceOver

2014-09-25 Thread Cathy Inglis
I have updated to 8.02 and not any improvements at all. Still can not use the 
share function while texting.
Cathy  and Tiny.

 On Sep 26, 2014, at 12:54 AM, Brett brettst...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi, 
 
 I have just downloaded it. So far I have noticed that VoiceOver doesn't seem 
 to crash as much. Also entering a space in braille seems a lot more reliable, 
 although the issue still exists somewhat. 
 
 This is what I have noticed so far. I will report further, if I notice more 
 improvements. 
 
 So far, I see no reason for those on IOS8 not to upgrade. 
 
 Cheers, 
 Brett. 
 
 Sent with Siri from Brett's iPhone
 
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 Hello,
 Has anyone had a chance to download IOS 8.02 and if so, what VoiceOver
 bugs have been resolved? I was particularly waiting for the keypad and
 sharing issues to be addressed. Has anyone had a chance to try these
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Re: IOS 8.02 and VoiceOver

2014-09-25 Thread Chuck Dean
I also updated, and noticed that Fleksy still does not work with voiceover on. 
You have to turn voiceover off to get Fleksy to work at all. Then when I went 
to activate the menu, if Lexi crashed about three times. I'm not noticing much 
improvement.

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Re: IOS 8.02 and VoiceOver

2014-09-25 Thread Brett
Well, how did you get Flexi to work without voice over running. I can't even 
turn on the voicing option for Flexi.

Sent with Siri from Brett's iPhone

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Re: IOS 8.02 and VoiceOver

2014-09-25 Thread Chuck Dean
I just turned off voiceover, and started typing. Fleksy has its own voice.

Chuck (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

 On Sep 25, 2014, at 10:54 PM, Brett brettst...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Well, how did you get Flexi to work without voice over running. I can't even 
 turn on the voicing option for Flexi.
 
 Sent with Siri from Brett's iPhone
 
 On 26 Sep 2014, at 3:27 pm, Chuck Dean chuckd...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I also updated, and noticed that Fleksy still does not work with voiceover 
 on. You have to turn voiceover off to get Fleksy to work at all. Then when I 
 went to activate the menu, if Lexi crashed about three times. I'm not 
 noticing much improvement.
 
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