RE: accessible measuring app?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If your client wants a Bluetooth caliper now the ones from the website I gave 
you work fine if you follow the correct steps.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2019 3:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: accessible measuring app?

Barry Wixey got back to me fairly quickly.
They do not have a bluetooth caliper yet, but maybe in about a year.
He is working on a protractor that should be ready in a few months.

Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.



On Sep 21, 2019, at 7:54 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Robin,

The Tape 
King<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.caretec.at%2FProducts.31.0.html%3F%26cHash%3D3ebd30f8a78c0bc846e2a0770115efc5%26detail%3D3397=02%7C01%7C%7Cd9b73c97edfe4aca03f508d73ea388ae%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637046744401301851=eG1kcls5brzSLmCkAQrQw36Mv%2FFnNYg%2BSCg5AWBla08%3D=0>
 is a talking tape measure from an Austrian company called CareTec. They also 
make, I think, talking kitchen scales and canes.
The link will take you to their website which includes a manual for the product.
As for size, the Cobalt at least is not really all that much larger than a 
large carpenters tape, I guess it is larger if you compare the length of the 
tape since a similar sized quality tape which is non-talking probably has at 
least a 25 foot tape and not only a 15 foot tape and you can get 15 foot tapes 
which are more compact, but they also have a narrower, less rigid tape.
The point is that you can’t make a tape with tactile markings which gives you 
1/16 inch accuracy, the click rule or Rotomatic is different since it’s tactile 
in a way down to the half inch or 1 cm on the metric unit, but then the 1/16 or 
1mm accuracy is achieved through the “clicks” on the click rule. These are 
achieved by a spring-loaded pin producing an audible click which you can also 
feel as you push the threaded rod in or out of the housing and the pin clicks 
in place in each thread. With the Rotomatic the same is accomplished by turning 
the stop along the threaded rod, each full, 360 degree turn is 1/16, a half 
turn is 1/32 and a quarter turn is 1/64. Each unit has a lock screw so you can 
lock the measurement you selected into place after you set it  up, they are 
very ingenious devices, extremely precise and very durable.
I typically use my click rule for doing “real” woodworking as in building 
furniture, drawers, Shaker-style doors as you often find on kitchen cabinets 
etc. Here real precision at least to the sixteenth of an inch is necessary.
If it’s more carpentry oriented like doing baseboard, door or window trim, 
framing interior walls or if it involves measurements more than 5 or 6 feet 
long I usually use the talking tape measure.
For very small measurements and machine setup like setting the table saw at a 
certain distance from the blade and if said distance is no more than 3 to 6 
inches I often use my setup blocks/bars which I described. Those are especially 
handy for cutting say 2 ½, 2 ¾ or 3 inch wide strips of hardwood for the rails 
and stiles on a panel door like a raised panel or Shaker-style cabinet door. I 
just use the 1/2/3 inch block which is 3 inches long, 2 inches wide and 1 inch 
thick, if I want 3 inches I use it as is in the proper direction, if I want 2 ½ 
inches I use it the other way and add a ½ inch block, if I want 2 ¾ inches I 
use the 2 inch side and a ¾ inch block etc. My 15-block set goes down to a very 
thin 1/32 inch block, then it has a 1/6 inch block, a 3/32 inch, an 1/8 inch 
etc. I can use a combination of blocks to make up just about anything I want.
There are also digital measuring devices such as digital calipers or angle 
blocks which are available with Bluetooth and where you can then use the iPhone 
to obtain a spoken value.
Barry Wixey from Wixey 
Tools<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wixey.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7Cd9b73c97edfe4aca03f508d73ea388ae%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637046744401311862=s2yTC1omx3hqAPmVvOaRmMxWR5%2BiXQsPJ1AacqdjJ9Q%3D=0>
 offers a digital Bluetooth angle cube and he also has a table saw fence setup 
which when properly installed shows the distance from the fence to the blade on 
a display. He is currently working on a Bluetooth module which would then send 
the information to his app where it would be spoken.

Best regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 8:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: accessible measuring app?

Hi,
What is a Tape King? and funny this comes up as I’d just recently been 
discussing with a friend how amazed I am that no one ever produced a 
retractable metal tape measure with tactile markings sort of like the talking 
one but without the large housing necessary for its talking component more like 
those people in trades use.

Re: accessible measuring app?

[Richard Turner]

Barry Wixey got back to me fairly quickly.
They do not have a bluetooth caliper yet, but maybe in about a year.
He is working on a protractor that should be ready in a few months.


Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.


On Sep 21, 2019, at 7:54 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


Robin,

The Tape 
King<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.caretec.at%2FProducts.31.0.html%3F%26cHash%3D3ebd30f8a78c0bc846e2a0770115efc5%26detail%3D3397=02%7C01%7C%7Cd9b73c97edfe4aca03f508d73ea388ae%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637046744401301851=eG1kcls5brzSLmCkAQrQw36Mv%2FFnNYg%2BSCg5AWBla08%3D=0>
 is a talking tape measure from an Austrian company called CareTec. They also 
make, I think, talking kitchen scales and canes.
The link will take you to their website which includes a manual for the product.
As for size, the Cobalt at least is not really all that much larger than a 
large carpenters tape, I guess it is larger if you compare the length of the 
tape since a similar sized quality tape which is non-talking probably has at 
least a 25 foot tape and not only a 15 foot tape and you can get 15 foot tapes 
which are more compact, but they also have a narrower, less rigid tape.
The point is that you can’t make a tape with tactile markings which gives you 
1/16 inch accuracy, the click rule or Rotomatic is different since it’s tactile 
in a way down to the half inch or 1 cm on the metric unit, but then the 1/16 or 
1mm accuracy is achieved through the “clicks” on the click rule. These are 
achieved by a spring-loaded pin producing an audible click which you can also 
feel as you push the threaded rod in or out of the housing and the pin clicks 
in place in each thread. With the Rotomatic the same is accomplished by turning 
the stop along the threaded rod, each full, 360 degree turn is 1/16, a half 
turn is 1/32 and a quarter turn is 1/64. Each unit has a lock screw so you can 
lock the measurement you selected into place after you set it  up, they are 
very ingenious devices, extremely precise and very durable.
I typically use my click rule for doing “real” woodworking as in building 
furniture, drawers, Shaker-style doors as you often find on kitchen cabinets 
etc. Here real precision at least to the sixteenth of an inch is necessary.
If it’s more carpentry oriented like doing baseboard, door or window trim, 
framing interior walls or if it involves measurements more than 5 or 6 feet 
long I usually use the talking tape measure.
For very small measurements and machine setup like setting the table saw at a 
certain distance from the blade and if said distance is no more than 3 to 6 
inches I often use my setup blocks/bars which I described. Those are especially 
handy for cutting say 2 ½, 2 ¾ or 3 inch wide strips of hardwood for the rails 
and stiles on a panel door like a raised panel or Shaker-style cabinet door. I 
just use the 1/2/3 inch block which is 3 inches long, 2 inches wide and 1 inch 
thick, if I want 3 inches I use it as is in the proper direction, if I want 2 ½ 
inches I use it the other way and add a ½ inch block, if I want 2 ¾ inches I 
use the 2 inch side and a ¾ inch block etc. My 15-block set goes down to a very 
thin 1/32 inch block, then it has a 1/6 inch block, a 3/32 inch, an 1/8 inch 
etc. I can use a combination of blocks to make up just about anything I want.
There are also digital measuring devices such as digital calipers or angle 
blocks which are available with Bluetooth and where you can then use the iPhone 
to obtain a spoken value.
Barry Wixey from Wixey 
Tools<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wixey.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7Cd9b73c97edfe4aca03f508d73ea388ae%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637046744401311862=s2yTC1omx3hqAPmVvOaRmMxWR5%2BiXQsPJ1AacqdjJ9Q%3D=0>
 offers a digital Bluetooth angle cube and he also has a table saw fence setup 
which when properly installed shows the distance from the fence to the blade on 
a display. He is currently working on a Bluetooth module which would then send 
the information to his app where it would be spoken.

Best regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 8:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: accessible measuring app?

Hi,
What is a Tape King? and funny this comes up as I’d just recently been 
discussing with a friend how amazed I am that no one ever produced a 
retractable metal tape measure with tactile markings sort of like the talking 
one but without the large housing necessary for its talking component more like 
those people in trades use.
I apologize for straying off topic. I’ll be quiet now.
Take good care.
Robin


From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 11:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: accessible measuring app?

I have been doing woodworking for 20 years and 

RE: accessible measuring app?

[Richard Turner]

He did have a digital caliper on his site, so I’ll find his contact info and 
drop him a note.

Thanks so much for all this.  My client will appreciate it very much.

Richard


Richard

 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com/>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2019 8:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: accessible measuring app?

I can’t remember if Barry Wixey has a Bluetooth caliper.
The caliper I have is not accessible in itself, i.e. it does not talk. But if 
you buy the Bluetooth model you can pair it to the iPhone where it shows up as 
“Bluetooth Keyboard”, I then open the Calculator app since I find it easiest 
and whenever I press the button on the caliper to send the measurement 
Voiceover automatically speaks it since it’s like entering a number with a 
keyboard. You could also open a new note and it would be entered there, but 
then you have to touch the phone to go back and read it whereas in the 
Calculator app it is automatic.
Here is the caliper I have:
ORIGIN-CAL DIGITAL CALIPERS 
W/BLUETOOTH<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.chipsfly.com%2Fproduct%2F30-149.html=02%7C01%7C%7Cb248b8543f924b0feb4708d73eaad13a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637046775681659546=hhqzQO7OwdY%2FtawUbR6DcpmF6LiKdg3TT1Qpdbceqb8%3D=0>
You may need a bit of help initially to know what the buttons are, too pair it 
and so on and it’s a bit temperamental in terms of reconnecting, but while I 
don’t have time right now, I can send you a description on how to do it later.
As I said, these are just showing up as an input device and it works well with 
the Calculator app to have the result spoken, Wixey has an app and it works 
great with his digital Bluetooth angle cube, but not sure if he has a caliper.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2019 8:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: accessible measuring app?

Sieghard,
Are you saying the guy who makes the digital caliper has an app that makes it 
accessible?
I have a client who needs those kinds of tools and I had not come across such 
an animal.

I will have him check out his web site.

Richard


Richard

 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: 
www.turner42.com<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7Cb248b8543f924b0feb4708d73eaad13a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637046775681659546=708BF5NIWLuOMqnG2E%2BPuBhudkpbDpP0SD%2FqayTtM%2BY%3D=0>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2019 7:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: accessible measuring app?

Robin,

The Tape 
King<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.caretec.at%2FProducts.31.0.html%3F%26cHash%3D3ebd30f8a78c0bc846e2a0770115efc5%26detail%3D3397=02%7C01%7C%7Cb248b8543f924b0feb4708d73eaad13a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637046775681669551=FJtRsv0wGhJWrrIVpYPPrYmjbdglZ%2B%2FpD9gbJ0uPTQg%3D=0>
 is a talking tape measure from an Austrian company called CareTec. They also 
make, I think, talking kitchen scales and canes.
The link will take you to their website which includes a manual for the product.
As for size, the Cobalt at least is not really all that much larger than a 
large carpenters tape, I guess it is larger if you compare the length of the 
tape since a similar sized quality tape which is non-talking probably has at 
least a 25 foot tape and not only a 15 foot tape and you can get 15 foot tapes 
which are more compact, but they also have a narrower, less rigid tape.
The point is that you can’t make a tape with tactile markings which gives you 
1/16 inch accuracy, the click rule or Rotomatic is different since it’s tactile 
in a way down to the half inch or 1 cm on the metric unit, but then the 1/16 or 
1mm accuracy is achieved through the “clicks” on the click rule. These are 
achieved by a spring-loaded pin producing an audible click which you can also 
feel as you push the threaded rod in or out of the housing and the pin clicks 
in place in each thread. With the Rotomatic the same is accomplished by turning 
the stop along the threaded rod, each full, 360 degree turn is 1/16, a half 
turn is 1/32 and a quarter turn is 1/64. Each unit has a lock screw so you can 
lock the measurement you selected into place after you set it  up, they are 
very ingenious devices, extremely precise and very durable.
I typically use my click rule for doing “real” woodworking as in building 
furniture, drawers, Shaker-style

RE: accessible measuring app?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I can’t remember if Barry Wixey has a Bluetooth caliper.
The caliper I have is not accessible in itself, i.e. it does not talk. But if 
you buy the Bluetooth model you can pair it to the iPhone where it shows up as 
“Bluetooth Keyboard”, I then open the Calculator app since I find it easiest 
and whenever I press the button on the caliper to send the measurement 
Voiceover automatically speaks it since it’s like entering a number with a 
keyboard. You could also open a new note and it would be entered there, but 
then you have to touch the phone to go back and read it whereas in the 
Calculator app it is automatic.
Here is the caliper I have:
ORIGIN-CAL DIGITAL CALIPERS 
W/BLUETOOTH<https://www.chipsfly.com/product/30-149.html>
You may need a bit of help initially to know what the buttons are, too pair it 
and so on and it’s a bit temperamental in terms of reconnecting, but while I 
don’t have time right now, I can send you a description on how to do it later.
As I said, these are just showing up as an input device and it works well with 
the Calculator app to have the result spoken, Wixey has an app and it works 
great with his digital Bluetooth angle cube, but not sure if he has a caliper.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2019 8:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: accessible measuring app?

Sieghard,
Are you saying the guy who makes the digital caliper has an app that makes it 
accessible?
I have a client who needs those kinds of tools and I had not come across such 
an animal.

I will have him check out his web site.

Richard


Richard

 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com/>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2019 7:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: accessible measuring app?

Robin,

The Tape 
King<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.caretec.at%2FProducts.31.0.html%3F%26cHash%3D3ebd30f8a78c0bc846e2a0770115efc5%26detail%3D3397=02%7C01%7C%7Cd9b73c97edfe4aca03f508d73ea388ae%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637046744401301851=eG1kcls5brzSLmCkAQrQw36Mv%2FFnNYg%2BSCg5AWBla08%3D=0>
 is a talking tape measure from an Austrian company called CareTec. They also 
make, I think, talking kitchen scales and canes.
The link will take you to their website which includes a manual for the product.
As for size, the Cobalt at least is not really all that much larger than a 
large carpenters tape, I guess it is larger if you compare the length of the 
tape since a similar sized quality tape which is non-talking probably has at 
least a 25 foot tape and not only a 15 foot tape and you can get 15 foot tapes 
which are more compact, but they also have a narrower, less rigid tape.
The point is that you can’t make a tape with tactile markings which gives you 
1/16 inch accuracy, the click rule or Rotomatic is different since it’s tactile 
in a way down to the half inch or 1 cm on the metric unit, but then the 1/16 or 
1mm accuracy is achieved through the “clicks” on the click rule. These are 
achieved by a spring-loaded pin producing an audible click which you can also 
feel as you push the threaded rod in or out of the housing and the pin clicks 
in place in each thread. With the Rotomatic the same is accomplished by turning 
the stop along the threaded rod, each full, 360 degree turn is 1/16, a half 
turn is 1/32 and a quarter turn is 1/64. Each unit has a lock screw so you can 
lock the measurement you selected into place after you set it  up, they are 
very ingenious devices, extremely precise and very durable.
I typically use my click rule for doing “real” woodworking as in building 
furniture, drawers, Shaker-style doors as you often find on kitchen cabinets 
etc. Here real precision at least to the sixteenth of an inch is necessary.
If it’s more carpentry oriented like doing baseboard, door or window trim, 
framing interior walls or if it involves measurements more than 5 or 6 feet 
long I usually use the talking tape measure.
For very small measurements and machine setup like setting the table saw at a 
certain distance from the blade and if said distance is no more than 3 to 6 
inches I often use my setup blocks/bars which I described. Those are especially 
handy for cutting say 2 ½, 2 ¾ or 3 inch wide strips of hardwood for the rails 
and stiles on a panel door like a raised panel or Shaker-style cabinet door. I 
just use the 1/2/3 inch block which is 3 inches long, 2 inches wide and 1 inch 
thick, if I want 3 inches I use it as is in the proper direction, if I want 2 ½ 
inches I use it the other way and add a ½ inch block, if I want 2 ¾ inches I 
use the 2 inch side and a ¾ inch block etc. My 15-block set goes down to a ver

RE: accessible measuring app?

[Richard Turner]

Sieghard,
Are you saying the guy who makes the digital caliper has an app that makes it 
accessible?
I have a client who needs those kinds of tools and I had not come across such 
an animal.

I will have him check out his web site.

Richard


Richard

 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com/>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2019 7:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: accessible measuring app?

Robin,

The Tape 
King<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.caretec.at%2FProducts.31.0.html%3F%26cHash%3D3ebd30f8a78c0bc846e2a0770115efc5%26detail%3D3397=02%7C01%7C%7Cd9b73c97edfe4aca03f508d73ea388ae%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637046744401301851=eG1kcls5brzSLmCkAQrQw36Mv%2FFnNYg%2BSCg5AWBla08%3D=0>
 is a talking tape measure from an Austrian company called CareTec. They also 
make, I think, talking kitchen scales and canes.
The link will take you to their website which includes a manual for the product.
As for size, the Cobalt at least is not really all that much larger than a 
large carpenters tape, I guess it is larger if you compare the length of the 
tape since a similar sized quality tape which is non-talking probably has at 
least a 25 foot tape and not only a 15 foot tape and you can get 15 foot tapes 
which are more compact, but they also have a narrower, less rigid tape.
The point is that you can’t make a tape with tactile markings which gives you 
1/16 inch accuracy, the click rule or Rotomatic is different since it’s tactile 
in a way down to the half inch or 1 cm on the metric unit, but then the 1/16 or 
1mm accuracy is achieved through the “clicks” on the click rule. These are 
achieved by a spring-loaded pin producing an audible click which you can also 
feel as you push the threaded rod in or out of the housing and the pin clicks 
in place in each thread. With the Rotomatic the same is accomplished by turning 
the stop along the threaded rod, each full, 360 degree turn is 1/16, a half 
turn is 1/32 and a quarter turn is 1/64. Each unit has a lock screw so you can 
lock the measurement you selected into place after you set it  up, they are 
very ingenious devices, extremely precise and very durable.
I typically use my click rule for doing “real” woodworking as in building 
furniture, drawers, Shaker-style doors as you often find on kitchen cabinets 
etc. Here real precision at least to the sixteenth of an inch is necessary.
If it’s more carpentry oriented like doing baseboard, door or window trim, 
framing interior walls or if it involves measurements more than 5 or 6 feet 
long I usually use the talking tape measure.
For very small measurements and machine setup like setting the table saw at a 
certain distance from the blade and if said distance is no more than 3 to 6 
inches I often use my setup blocks/bars which I described. Those are especially 
handy for cutting say 2 ½, 2 ¾ or 3 inch wide strips of hardwood for the rails 
and stiles on a panel door like a raised panel or Shaker-style cabinet door. I 
just use the 1/2/3 inch block which is 3 inches long, 2 inches wide and 1 inch 
thick, if I want 3 inches I use it as is in the proper direction, if I want 2 ½ 
inches I use it the other way and add a ½ inch block, if I want 2 ¾ inches I 
use the 2 inch side and a ¾ inch block etc. My 15-block set goes down to a very 
thin 1/32 inch block, then it has a 1/6 inch block, a 3/32 inch, an 1/8 inch 
etc. I can use a combination of blocks to make up just about anything I want.
There are also digital measuring devices such as digital calipers or angle 
blocks which are available with Bluetooth and where you can then use the iPhone 
to obtain a spoken value.
Barry Wixey from Wixey 
Tools<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wixey.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7Cd9b73c97edfe4aca03f508d73ea388ae%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637046744401311862=s2yTC1omx3hqAPmVvOaRmMxWR5%2BiXQsPJ1AacqdjJ9Q%3D=0>
 offers a digital Bluetooth angle cube and he also has a table saw fence setup 
which when properly installed shows the distance from the fence to the blade on 
a display. He is currently working on a Bluetooth module which would then send 
the information to his app where it would be spoken.

Best regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 8:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: accessible measuring app?

Hi,
What is a Tape King? and funny this comes up as I’d just recently been 
discussing with a friend how amazed I am that no one ever produced a 
retractable metal tape measure with tactile markings sort of like the talking 
one but without the large housing necessary for its talking component more

Re: accessible measuring app?

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Thank you for letting me know learned much today. I bow to the greatness of all 
you handy folk ☺
Robin
Take good care.


From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2019 10:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: accessible measuring app?

Robin,

 

The Tape King is a talking tape measure from an Austrian company called 
CareTec. They also make, I think, talking kitchen scales and canes.

The link will take you to their website which includes a manual for the product.

As for size, the Cobalt at least is not really all that much larger than a 
large carpenters tape, I guess it is larger if you compare the length of the 
tape since a similar sized quality tape which is non-talking probably has at 
least a 25 foot tape and not only a 15 foot tape and you can get 15 foot tapes 
which are more compact, but they also have a narrower, less rigid tape.

The point is that you can’t make a tape with tactile markings which gives you 
1/16 inch accuracy, the click rule or Rotomatic is different since it’s tactile 
in a way down to the half inch or 1 cm on the metric unit, but then the 1/16 or 
1mm accuracy is achieved through the “clicks” on the click rule. These are 
achieved by a spring-loaded pin producing an audible click which you can also 
feel as you push the threaded rod in or out of the housing and the pin clicks 
in place in each thread. With the Rotomatic the same is accomplished by turning 
the stop along the threaded rod, each full, 360 degree turn is 1/16, a half 
turn is 1/32 and a quarter turn is 1/64. Each unit has a lock screw so you can 
lock the measurement you selected into place after you set it  up, they are 
very ingenious devices, extremely precise and very durable.

I typically use my click rule for doing “real” woodworking as in building 
furniture, drawers, Shaker-style doors as you often find on kitchen cabinets 
etc. Here real precision at least to the sixteenth of an inch is necessary.

If it’s more carpentry oriented like doing baseboard, door or window trim, 
framing interior walls or if it involves measurements more than 5 or 6 feet 
long I usually use the talking tape measure.

For very small measurements and machine setup like setting the table saw at a 
certain distance from the blade and if said distance is no more than 3 to 6 
inches I often use my setup blocks/bars which I described. Those are especially 
handy for cutting say 2 ½, 2 ¾ or 3 inch wide strips of hardwood for the rails 
and stiles on a panel door like a raised panel or Shaker-style cabinet door. I 
just use the 1/2/3 inch block which is 3 inches long, 2 inches wide and 1 inch 
thick, if I want 3 inches I use it as is in the proper direction, if I want 2 ½ 
inches I use it the other way and add a ½ inch block, if I want 2 ¾ inches I 
use the 2 inch side and a ¾ inch block etc. My 15-block set goes down to a very 
thin 1/32 inch block, then it has a 1/6 inch block, a 3/32 inch, an 1/8 inch 
etc. I can use a combination of blocks to make up just about anything I want.

There are also digital measuring devices such as digital calipers or angle 
blocks which are available with Bluetooth and where you can then use the iPhone 
to obtain a spoken value.

Barry Wixey from Wixey Tools offers a digital Bluetooth angle cube and he also 
has a table saw fence setup which when properly installed shows the distance 
from the fence to the blade on a display. He is currently working on a 
Bluetooth module which would then send the information to his app where it 
would be spoken.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 8:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: accessible measuring app?

 

Hi,

What is a Tape King? and funny this comes up as I’d just recently been 
discussing with a friend how amazed I am that no one ever produced a 
retractable metal tape measure with tactile markings sort of like the talking 
one but without the large housing necessary for its talking component more like 
those people in trades use.

I apologize for straying off topic. I’ll be quiet now.

Take good care.

Robin

 

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 11:42 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: accessible measuring app?

 

I have been doing woodworking for 20 years and I absolutely agree that a Click 
Rule or talking tape measure are absolutely essential if you want to do stuff 
with any degree of accuracy.

There is also the Rotomatic (not sure if I spell this correctly), it is 
somewhat the same concept as a Click Rule, but I believe instead of pulling out 
a threaded rod which then makes a click every sixteenth of an inch the 
Rotomatic works by the user turning a stop along a threaded rod and it can give 
you accuracy down to a 1/64 of an inch whereas the imperial click rule is 
accurate to 1/16 of an inch and the metric click rule is accurate to 1mm which 
is better than a sixteenth

RE: accessible measuring app?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Robin,

The Tape 
King<http://www.caretec.at/Products.31.0.html?=3ebd30f8a78c0bc846e2a0770115efc5=3397>
 is a talking tape measure from an Austrian company called CareTec. They also 
make, I think, talking kitchen scales and canes.
The link will take you to their website which includes a manual for the product.
As for size, the Cobalt at least is not really all that much larger than a 
large carpenters tape, I guess it is larger if you compare the length of the 
tape since a similar sized quality tape which is non-talking probably has at 
least a 25 foot tape and not only a 15 foot tape and you can get 15 foot tapes 
which are more compact, but they also have a narrower, less rigid tape.
The point is that you can’t make a tape with tactile markings which gives you 
1/16 inch accuracy, the click rule or Rotomatic is different since it’s tactile 
in a way down to the half inch or 1 cm on the metric unit, but then the 1/16 or 
1mm accuracy is achieved through the “clicks” on the click rule. These are 
achieved by a spring-loaded pin producing an audible click which you can also 
feel as you push the threaded rod in or out of the housing and the pin clicks 
in place in each thread. With the Rotomatic the same is accomplished by turning 
the stop along the threaded rod, each full, 360 degree turn is 1/16, a half 
turn is 1/32 and a quarter turn is 1/64. Each unit has a lock screw so you can 
lock the measurement you selected into place after you set it  up, they are 
very ingenious devices, extremely precise and very durable.
I typically use my click rule for doing “real” woodworking as in building 
furniture, drawers, Shaker-style doors as you often find on kitchen cabinets 
etc. Here real precision at least to the sixteenth of an inch is necessary.
If it’s more carpentry oriented like doing baseboard, door or window trim, 
framing interior walls or if it involves measurements more than 5 or 6 feet 
long I usually use the talking tape measure.
For very small measurements and machine setup like setting the table saw at a 
certain distance from the blade and if said distance is no more than 3 to 6 
inches I often use my setup blocks/bars which I described. Those are especially 
handy for cutting say 2 ½, 2 ¾ or 3 inch wide strips of hardwood for the rails 
and stiles on a panel door like a raised panel or Shaker-style cabinet door. I 
just use the 1/2/3 inch block which is 3 inches long, 2 inches wide and 1 inch 
thick, if I want 3 inches I use it as is in the proper direction, if I want 2 ½ 
inches I use it the other way and add a ½ inch block, if I want 2 ¾ inches I 
use the 2 inch side and a ¾ inch block etc. My 15-block set goes down to a very 
thin 1/32 inch block, then it has a 1/6 inch block, a 3/32 inch, an 1/8 inch 
etc. I can use a combination of blocks to make up just about anything I want.
There are also digital measuring devices such as digital calipers or angle 
blocks which are available with Bluetooth and where you can then use the iPhone 
to obtain a spoken value.
Barry Wixey from Wixey Tools<http://www.wixey.com/> offers a digital Bluetooth 
angle cube and he also has a table saw fence setup which when properly 
installed shows the distance from the fence to the blade on a display. He is 
currently working on a Bluetooth module which would then send the information 
to his app where it would be spoken.

Best regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 8:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: accessible measuring app?

Hi,
What is a Tape King? and funny this comes up as I’d just recently been 
discussing with a friend how amazed I am that no one ever produced a 
retractable metal tape measure with tactile markings sort of like the talking 
one but without the large housing necessary for its talking component more like 
those people in trades use.
I apologize for straying off topic. I’ll be quiet now.
Take good care.
Robin


From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 11:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: accessible measuring app?

I have been doing woodworking for 20 years and I absolutely agree that a Click 
Rule or talking tape measure are absolutely essential if you want to do stuff 
with any degree of accuracy.
There is also the Rotomatic (not sure if I spell this correctly), it is 
somewhat the same concept as a Click Rule, but I believe instead of pulling out 
a threaded rod which then makes a click every sixteenth of an inch the 
Rotomatic works by the user turning a stop along a threaded rod and it can give 
you accuracy down to a 1/64 of an inch whereas the imperial click rule is 
accurate to 1/16 of an inch and the metric click rule is accurate to 1mm which 
is better than a sixteenth, but not quite as good a 1/32.
Having said this, 1/16 is adequate in a lot of situations and 1mm is of course 
even better.
The Cobalt talking t

RE: accessible measuring app?

[Robert Wright]

I purchased mine from blind mice Mart for $109.

**If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the 
learning start?*** 

From: Albert Ruel
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 1:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: accessible measuring app?

I have two of those talking tape measures in my shop, and neither one works 
anymore. Funny how they will only bounce on the concrete floor two or three 
times before failing altogether. I like that I might be able to have them 
repaired.
Thx, Albert

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 20, 2019, at 9:25 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
Doing a Google search did give me this:
Talking Tape Measure by Cobalt – horizons for the Blind
 
You can of course contact Cobalt directly in England, they’ll ship to you as 
far as I know and without the 9 Volt battery it costs 52.95 British Pounds 
which converts approx. to 
$66 to 
$68, maybe $70 max. if your credit card charges a bit of a higher exchange rate 
On this Horizons for the Blind 
Website it’s $105 US and I have a feeling it will cost less than $35 US to ship 
it from England.
I actually was planning to get one shipped, I have 1 which doesn’t work any 
more and my second one is getting a bit beat up and I believe if you send them 
back they’ll fix them up or replace them. Here in Canada the CNIB sells them 
and I find it interesting how a governmental agency puts such a huge mark-up on 
stuff, they want $169.95 Canadian for it and it actually shows it’s out of 
stock and they don’t know when they get more. 52.95 British Pounds converts to 
approx. 88 Canadian Dollars so their price is almost double.  
 
Regards,
Sieghard
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 9:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: accessible measuring app?
 
Hi Sieghard,
Do you know of a North American distributer for the Cobolt Talking Tape?
 
Thanks,
Richard
 
Richard
 
 Live long and prosper
 
 
Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 8:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: accessible measuring app?
 
I have been doing woodworking for 20 years and I absolutely agree that a Click 
Rule or talking tape measure are absolutely essential if you want to do stuff 
with any degree of accuracy.
There is also the Rotomatic (not sure if I spell this correctly), it is 
somewhat the same concept as a Click Rule, but I believe instead of pulling out 
a threaded rod which then makes a click every sixteenth of an inch the 
Rotomatic works by the user turning a stop along a threaded rod and it can give 
you accuracy down to a 1/64 of an inch whereas the imperial click rule is 
accurate to 1/16 of an inch and the metric click rule is accurate to 1mm which 
is better than a sixteenth, but not quite as good a 1/32.
Having said this, 1/16 is adequate in a lot of situations and 1mm is of course 
even better.
The Cobalt talking tape measure if set to imperial is also accurate to 1/16 and 
if set to metric it is 1mm. I like the fact that you can include the length of 
the housing in your measurement if, for example, you want to measure the inside 
of a cabinet or drawer, you can also measure something and push a button to add 
that measurement to memory, then measure the next item and add it and so on and 
in the end push a button to get a total. This can be handy if you do things 
like baseboard trim, they usually come in 16 foot length so I could go and 
measure several walls and add up each measurement until I get close to 16 feet 
and this way I can minimize waste. The Cobalt can also be set to read out in 
inches, feet and inches, e.g. 25 inches or 2 feet 1 inches, on the metric side 
you can do metres, centimetres or millimeters, e.g. 1 metre and 10 centimetres 
can also be read as 110 centimetres or 1,010 millimetres. I assume that Tape 
King can maybe do the same, but I don’t know. Max, could you contact me 
off-list as I’d love to learn more about Tape King. 
I have both a couple of Cobalt tape measures, I have I think 4 imperial click 
rules and 1 metric because when I am really working on a larger project I often 
will use 2 or 3 at the same time, e.g. if I want to measure how far away from 
the edge of a sheet of plywood the rail of my track saw is especially if I am 
cutting along the 8 foot length of the plywood, it is much better to have a 
click rule on each end than to run around with a single one.
There is absolutely no way an app is going to be accurate enough for any sort 
of good woodworking and I highly doubt you would see a single professional and 
sighted woodworker use an app like the Measure app over a tape measure even 
though they could probably use it with much better precision in terms of lining 
up start and end point. The fact is that if you want to do any sort of 
woodworking it will be an expensive hobby.
Lastly, don’t forget the usefulness

Re: accessible measuring app?

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
What is a Tape King? and funny this comes up as I’d just recently been 
discussing with a friend how amazed I am that no one ever produced a 
retractable metal tape measure with tactile markings sort of like the talking 
one but without the large housing necessary for its talking component more like 
those people in trades use.
I apologize for straying off topic. I’ll be quiet now.
Take good care.
Robin


From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 11:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: accessible measuring app?

I have been doing woodworking for 20 years and I absolutely agree that a Click 
Rule or talking tape measure are absolutely essential if you want to do stuff 
with any degree of accuracy.

There is also the Rotomatic (not sure if I spell this correctly), it is 
somewhat the same concept as a Click Rule, but I believe instead of pulling out 
a threaded rod which then makes a click every sixteenth of an inch the 
Rotomatic works by the user turning a stop along a threaded rod and it can give 
you accuracy down to a 1/64 of an inch whereas the imperial click rule is 
accurate to 1/16 of an inch and the metric click rule is accurate to 1mm which 
is better than a sixteenth, but not quite as good a 1/32.

Having said this, 1/16 is adequate in a lot of situations and 1mm is of course 
even better.

The Cobalt talking tape measure if set to imperial is also accurate to 1/16 and 
if set to metric it is 1mm. I like the fact that you can include the length of 
the housing in your measurement if, for example, you want to measure the inside 
of a cabinet or drawer, you can also measure something and push a button to add 
that measurement to memory, then measure the next item and add it and so on and 
in the end push a button to get a total. This can be handy if you do things 
like baseboard trim, they usually come in 16 foot length so I could go and 
measure several walls and add up each measurement until I get close to 16 feet 
and this way I can minimize waste. The Cobalt can also be set to read out in 
inches, feet and inches, e.g. 25 inches or 2 feet 1 inches, on the metric side 
you can do metres, centimetres or millimeters, e.g. 1 metre and 10 centimetres 
can also be read as 110 centimetres or 1,010 millimetres. I assume that Tape 
King can maybe do the same, but I don’t know. Max, could you contact me 
off-list as I’d love to learn more about Tape King. 

I have both a couple of Cobalt tape measures, I have I think 4 imperial click 
rules and 1 metric because when I am really working on a larger project I often 
will use 2 or 3 at the same time, e.g. if I want to measure how far away from 
the edge of a sheet of plywood the rail of my track saw is especially if I am 
cutting along the 8 foot length of the plywood, it is much better to have a 
click rule on each end than to run around with a single one.

There is absolutely no way an app is going to be accurate enough for any sort 
of good woodworking and I highly doubt you would see a single professional and 
sighted woodworker use an app like the Measure app over a tape measure even 
though they could probably use it with much better precision in terms of lining 
up start and end point. The fact is that if you want to do any sort of 
woodworking it will be an expensive hobby.

Lastly, don’t forget the usefulness of setup blocks/bars like these:

15 piece setup bar set

This 15-piece set is one of the most complete and best I have found, I also 
have a couple of smaller 5 or 6 piece ones which you can get in metric or 
imperial and if I know I want to rip a 2 inch strip off something on my table 
saw or I want to set the height on my router bit to half an inch than using the 
appropriate setup bar is way easier than trying to set the table saw fence with 
the click rule.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Wright
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 12:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: accessible measuring app?

 

Unfortunately, this address is no longer valid.

 

**If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the 
learning start?*** 

 

From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 1:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: accessible measuring app?

 

Fascinating, hate to think of the possible price.

 

robH.

- Original Message - 

From: "Richard Turner" 

To: 

Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 1:44 AM

Subject: Re: accessible measuring app?

 

 

The below came from the Vision Aware site of AFB.

The Click Rule

 

The Click Rule is a metal tubular device slightly longer than 7 1/2 inches. A 
7-inch threaded rod is inserted into the tube. A 

knurled locking knob is screwed into the top of the threaded rod through a long 
slot that has been machined into the tube.

 

[closeup of someone using the Click Rule to measure a board]

 

The Click Rule

 

As the threaded rod is extended into and out o

RE: accessible measuring app?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

That did sound like a pretty good deal, but the listing has ended and in any 
case, I am in Canada and the seller said he only ships to the US.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CrazyEyez
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 9:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: accessible measuring app?

I found one on ebay if you have an account.
Here's the link if you are interested.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F264469004125


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 20, 2019, at 12:38 PM, Matthew Bullis 
mailto:matthewbulli...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I believe the talking tape measure is in the Maxi Aids catalog or the
Independent Living Aids catalog. I ordered it from one of those about
five years ago, but can't remember which one.
Matthew

On 9/20/19, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Doing a Google search did give me this:
Talking Tape Measure by Cobalt – horizons for the
Blind<https://www.horizons-blind.org/product/talking-tape-measure-by-cobolt/>

You can of course contact Cobalt directly in
England<https://www.cobolt.co.uk/products/index/talking-tape-measure>,
they’ll ship to you as far as I know and without the 9 Volt battery it costs
52.95 British Pounds which converts approx. to
$66 to
$68, maybe $70 max. if your credit card charges a bit of a higher exchange
rate On this Horizons for the Blind
Website it’s $105 US and I have a feeling it will cost less than $35 US to
ship it from England.
I actually was planning to get one shipped, I have 1 which doesn’t work any
more and my second one is getting a bit beat up and I believe if you send
them back they’ll fix them up or replace them. Here in Canada the CNIB sells
them and I find it interesting how a governmental agency puts such a huge
mark-up on stuff, they want $169.95 Canadian for it and it actually shows
it’s out of stock and they don’t know when they get more. 52.95 British
Pounds converts to approx. 88 Canadian Dollars so their price is almost
double.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 9:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: accessible measuring app?

Hi Sieghard,
Do you know of a North American distributer for the Cobolt Talking Tape?

Thanks,
Richard

Richard

 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: 
www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com><http://www.turner42.com/>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 8:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: accessible measuring app?

I have been doing woodworking for 20 years and I absolutely agree that a
Click Rule or talking tape measure are absolutely essential if you want to
do stuff with any degree of accuracy.
There is also the Rotomatic (not sure if I spell this correctly), it is
somewhat the same concept as a Click Rule, but I believe instead of pulling
out a threaded rod which then makes a click every sixteenth of an inch the
Rotomatic works by the user turning a stop along a threaded rod and it can
give you accuracy down to a 1/64 of an inch whereas the imperial click rule
is accurate to 1/16 of an inch and the metric click rule is accurate to 1mm
which is better than a sixteenth, but not quite as good a 1/32.
Having said this, 1/16 is adequate in a lot of situations and 1mm is of
course even better.
The Cobalt talking tape measure if set to imperial is also accurate to 1/16
and if set to metric it is 1mm. I like the fact that you can include the
length of the housing in your measurement if, for example, you want to
measure the inside of a cabinet or drawer, you can also measure something
and push a button to add that measurement to memory, then measure the next
item and add it and so on and in the end push a button to get a total. This
can be handy if you do things like baseboard trim, they usually come in 16
foot length so I could go and measure several walls and add up each
measurement until I get close to 16 feet and this way I can minimize waste.
The Cobalt can also be set to read out in inches, feet and inches, e.g. 25
inches or 2 feet 1 inches, on the metric side you can do metres, centimetres
or millimeters, e.g. 1 metre and 10 centimetres can also be read as 110
centimetres or 1,010 millimetres. I assume that Tape King can maybe do the
same, but I don’t know. Max, could you contact me off-list as I’d love to
learn more about Tape King.
I have both a couple of Cobalt tape measures, I have I think 4 imperial
click rules and 1 metric because when I am really working on a larger
project I often will use 2 or 3 at the same time, e.g. if I want to measure
how far away from the edge of a sheet of pl

Re: accessible measuring app?

[Albert Ruel]

I have two of those talking tape measures in my shop, and neither one works 
anymore. Funny how they will only bounce on the concrete floor two or three 
times before failing altogether. I like that I might be able to have them 
repaired.

Thx, Albert

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 20, 2019, at 9:25 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Doing a Google search did give me this:
Talking Tape Measure by Cobalt – horizons for the Blind
 
You can of course contact Cobalt directly in England, they’ll ship to you as 
far as I know and without the 9 Volt battery it costs 52.95 British Pounds 
which converts approx. to
$66 to 
$68, maybe $70 max. if your credit card charges a bit of a higher exchange rate 
On this Horizons for the Blind
Website it’s $105 US and I have a feeling it will cost less than $35 US to ship 
it from England.
I actually was planning to get one shipped, I have 1 which doesn’t work any 
more and my second one is getting a bit beat up and I believe if you send them 
back they’ll fix them up or replace them. Here in Canada the CNIB sells them 
and I find it interesting how a governmental agency puts such a huge mark-up on 
stuff, they want $169.95 Canadian for it and it actually shows it’s out of 
stock and they don’t know when they get more. 52.95 British Pounds converts to 
approx. 88 Canadian Dollars so their price is almost double.  
 
Regards,
Sieghard
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 9:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: accessible measuring app?
 
Hi Sieghard,
Do you know of a North American distributer for the Cobolt Talking Tape?
 
Thanks,
Richard
 
Richard
 
 Live long and prosper
 
 
Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 8:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: accessible measuring app?
 
I have been doing woodworking for 20 years and I absolutely agree that a Click 
Rule or talking tape measure are absolutely essential if you want to do stuff 
with any degree of accuracy.
There is also the Rotomatic (not sure if I spell this correctly), it is 
somewhat the same concept as a Click Rule, but I believe instead of pulling out 
a threaded rod which then makes a click every sixteenth of an inch the 
Rotomatic works by the user turning a stop along a threaded rod and it can give 
you accuracy down to a 1/64 of an inch whereas the imperial click rule is 
accurate to 1/16 of an inch and the metric click rule is accurate to 1mm which 
is better than a sixteenth, but not quite as good a 1/32.
Having said this, 1/16 is adequate in a lot of situations and 1mm is of course 
even better.
The Cobalt talking tape measure if set to imperial is also accurate to 1/16 and 
if set to metric it is 1mm. I like the fact that you can include the length of 
the housing in your measurement if, for example, you want to measure the inside 
of a cabinet or drawer, you can also measure something and push a button to add 
that measurement to memory, then measure the next item and add it and so on and 
in the end push a button to get a total. This can be handy if you do things 
like baseboard trim, they usually come in 16 foot length so I could go and 
measure several walls and add up each measurement until I get close to 16 feet 
and this way I can minimize waste. The Cobalt can also be set to read out in 
inches, feet and inches, e.g. 25 inches or 2 feet 1 inches, on the metric side 
you can do metres, centimetres or millimeters, e.g. 1 metre and 10 centimetres 
can also be read as 110 centimetres or 1,010 millimetres. I assume that Tape 
King can maybe do the same, but I don’t know. Max, could you contact me 
off-list as I’d love to learn more about Tape King.
I have both a couple of Cobalt tape measures, I have I think 4 imperial click 
rules and 1 metric because when I am really working on a larger project I often 
will use 2 or 3 at the same time, e.g. if I want to measure how far away from 
the edge of a sheet of plywood the rail of my track saw is especially if I am 
cutting along the 8 foot length of the plywood, it is much better to have a 
click rule on each end than to run around with a single one.
There is absolutely no way an app is going to be accurate enough for any sort 
of good woodworking and I highly doubt you would see a single professional and 
sighted woodworker use an app like the Measure app over a tape measure even 
though they could probably use it with much better precision in terms of lining 
up start and end point. The fact is that if you want to do any sort of 
woodworking it will be an expensive hobby.
Lastly, don’t forget the usefulness of setup blocks/bars like these:
15 piece setup bar set
This 15-piece set is one of the most complete and best I have found, I also 
have a couple of smaller 5 or 6 piece ones which you can get in metric or 
imperial and if I know I want to rip a 2 inch strip off something

Re: accessible measuring app?

[Dan Rathburn]

You can get it directly from cobolt.co.uk for $68.61 at the current exchange 
rate. Shipping is free last I checked.

HTH,

Dan



The nice thing about science is that it's true whether you believe in it or not.


From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 12:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: accessible measuring app?


Hi Sieghard,

Do you know of a North American distributer for the Cobolt Talking Tape?


Thanks,

Richard

 

Richard

 

 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 8:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: accessible measuring app?

 

I have been doing woodworking for 20 years and I absolutely agree that a Click 
Rule or talking tape measure are absolutely essential if you want to do stuff 
with any degree of accuracy.

There is also the Rotomatic (not sure if I spell this correctly), it is 
somewhat the same concept as a Click Rule, but I believe instead of pulling out 
a threaded rod which then makes a click every sixteenth of an inch the 
Rotomatic works by the user turning a stop along a threaded rod and it can give 
you accuracy down to a 1/64 of an inch whereas the imperial click rule is 
accurate to 1/16 of an inch and the metric click rule is accurate to 1mm which 
is better than a sixteenth, but not quite as good a 1/32.

Having said this, 1/16 is adequate in a lot of situations and 1mm is of course 
even better.

The Cobalt talking tape measure if set to imperial is also accurate to 1/16 and 
if set to metric it is 1mm. I like the fact that you can include the length of 
the housing in your measurement if, for example, you want to measure the inside 
of a cabinet or drawer, you can also measure something and push a button to add 
that measurement to memory, then measure the next item and add it and so on and 
in the end push a button to get a total. This can be handy if you do things 
like baseboard trim, they usually come in 16 foot length so I could go and 
measure several walls and add up each measurement until I get close to 16 feet 
and this way I can minimize waste. The Cobalt can also be set to read out in 
inches, feet and inches, e.g. 25 inches or 2 feet 1 inches, on the metric side 
you can do metres, centimetres or millimeters, e.g. 1 metre and 10 centimetres 
can also be read as 110 centimetres or 1,010 millimetres. I assume that Tape 
King can maybe do the same, but I don’t know. Max, could you contact me 
off-list as I’d love to learn more about Tape King. 

I have both a couple of Cobalt tape measures, I have I think 4 imperial click 
rules and 1 metric because when I am really working on a larger project I often 
will use 2 or 3 at the same time, e.g. if I want to measure how far away from 
the edge of a sheet of plywood the rail of my track saw is especially if I am 
cutting along the 8 foot length of the plywood, it is much better to have a 
click rule on each end than to run around with a single one.

There is absolutely no way an app is going to be accurate enough for any sort 
of good woodworking and I highly doubt you would see a single professional and 
sighted woodworker use an app like the Measure app over a tape measure even 
though they could probably use it with much better precision in terms of lining 
up start and end point. The fact is that if you want to do any sort of 
woodworking it will be an expensive hobby.

Lastly, don’t forget the usefulness of setup blocks/bars like these:

15 piece setup bar set

This 15-piece set is one of the most complete and best I have found, I also 
have a couple of smaller 5 or 6 piece ones which you can get in metric or 
imperial and if I know I want to rip a 2 inch strip off something on my table 
saw or I want to set the height on my router bit to half an inch than using the 
appropriate setup bar is way easier than trying to set the table saw fence with 
the click rule.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Wright
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 12:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: accessible measuring app?

 

Unfortunately, this address is no longer valid.

 

**If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the 
learning start?*** 

 

From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 1:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: accessible measuring app?

 

Fascinating, hate to think of the possible price.

 

robH.

- Original Message - 

From: "Richard Turner" 

To: 

Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 1:44 AM

Subject: Re: accessible measuring app?

 

 

The below came from the Vision Aware site of AFB.

The Click Rule

 

The Click Rule is a metal tubular device slightly longer than 7 1/2 inches. A 
7-inch threaded rod is inserted into the tube. A 

knurled locking knob is screwed into the top of the threaded rod through a 

Re: accessible measuring app?

[Donald Raikes]

Thanks all for the input.

I did some wood working when I was in junior high school back in
1973-5, and at that time I had access to a 6ft ssteel tape measure
with 1/8 inch marks for the first six inches and 1 inch marks up to 1
foot then marks every 6 inches after that, and a combination square
with 1/8 marks along the 1ft blade.

I don't currently have any power tools or much in the way of hand
tools either but I have a couple of projects in mind so I am going to
be making some investments inequipment it sounds like.

Nice to hear of so many blind wood workers.

On 9/20/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> I have been doing woodworking for 20 years and I absolutely agree that a
> Click Rule or talking tape measure are absolutely essential if you want to
> do stuff with any degree of accuracy.
> There is also the Rotomatic (not sure if I spell this correctly), it is
> somewhat the same concept as a Click Rule, but I believe instead of pulling
> out a threaded rod which then makes a click every sixteenth of an inch the
> Rotomatic works by the user turning a stop along a threaded rod and it can
> give you accuracy down to a 1/64 of an inch whereas the imperial click rule
> is accurate to 1/16 of an inch and the metric click rule is accurate to 1mm
> which is better than a sixteenth, but not quite as good a 1/32.
> Having said this, 1/16 is adequate in a lot of situations and 1mm is of
> course even better.
> The Cobalt talking tape measure if set to imperial is also accurate to 1/16
> and if set to metric it is 1mm. I like the fact that you can include the
> length of the housing in your measurement if, for example, you want to
> measure the inside of a cabinet or drawer, you can also measure something
> and push a button to add that measurement to memory, then measure the next
> item and add it and so on and in the end push a button to get a total. This
> can be handy if you do things like baseboard trim, they usually come in 16
> foot length so I could go and measure several walls and add up each
> measurement until I get close to 16 feet and this way I can minimize waste.
> The Cobalt can also be set to read out in inches, feet and inches, e.g. 25
> inches or 2 feet 1 inches, on the metric side you can do metres, centimetres
> or millimeters, e.g. 1 metre and 10 centimetres can also be read as 110
> centimetres or 1,010 millimetres. I assume that Tape King can maybe do the
> same, but I don’t know. Max, could you contact me off-list as I’d love to
> learn more about Tape King.
> I have both a couple of Cobalt tape measures, I have I think 4 imperial
> click rules and 1 metric because when I am really working on a larger
> project I often will use 2 or 3 at the same time, e.g. if I want to measure
> how far away from the edge of a sheet of plywood the rail of my track saw is
> especially if I am cutting along the 8 foot length of the plywood, it is
> much better to have a click rule on each end than to run around with a
> single one.
> There is absolutely no way an app is going to be accurate enough for any
> sort of good woodworking and I highly doubt you would see a single
> professional and sighted woodworker use an app like the Measure app over a
> tape measure even though they could probably use it with much better
> precision in terms of lining up start and end point. The fact is that if you
> want to do any sort of woodworking it will be an expensive hobby.
> Lastly, don’t forget the usefulness of setup blocks/bars like these:
> 15 piece setup bar set<https://www.chipsfly.com/product/12-235.html>
> This 15-piece set is one of the most complete and best I have found, I also
> have a couple of smaller 5 or 6 piece ones which you can get in metric or
> imperial and if I know I want to rip a 2 inch strip off something on my
> table saw or I want to set the height on my router bit to half an inch than
> using the appropriate setup bar is way easier than trying to set the table
> saw fence with the click rule.
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Robert Wright
> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 12:39 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: accessible measuring app?
>
> Unfortunately, this address is no longer valid.
>
> **If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the
> learning start?***
>
> From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 1:16 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: accessible measuring app?
>
> Fascinating, hate to think of the possible price.
>
> robH.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Richard Turner" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 1:44 AM
> Subject: Re: accessibl

Re: accessible measuring app?

[CrazyEyez]

I found one on ebay if you have an account.
Here's the link if you are interested.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F264469004125



Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 20, 2019, at 12:38 PM, Matthew Bullis  
> wrote:
> 
> I believe the talking tape measure is in the Maxi Aids catalog or the
> Independent Living Aids catalog. I ordered it from one of those about
> five years ago, but can't remember which one.
> Matthew
> 
>> On 9/20/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> Doing a Google search did give me this:
>> Talking Tape Measure by Cobalt – horizons for the
>> Blind<https://www.horizons-blind.org/product/talking-tape-measure-by-cobolt/>
>> 
>> You can of course contact Cobalt directly in
>> England<https://www.cobolt.co.uk/products/index/talking-tape-measure>,
>> they’ll ship to you as far as I know and without the 9 Volt battery it costs
>> 52.95 British Pounds which converts approx. to
>> $66 to
>> $68, maybe $70 max. if your credit card charges a bit of a higher exchange
>> rate On this Horizons for the Blind
>> Website it’s $105 US and I have a feeling it will cost less than $35 US to
>> ship it from England.
>> I actually was planning to get one shipped, I have 1 which doesn’t work any
>> more and my second one is getting a bit beat up and I believe if you send
>> them back they’ll fix them up or replace them. Here in Canada the CNIB sells
>> them and I find it interesting how a governmental agency puts such a huge
>> mark-up on stuff, they want $169.95 Canadian for it and it actually shows
>> it’s out of stock and they don’t know when they get more. 52.95 British
>> Pounds converts to approx. 88 Canadian Dollars so their price is almost
>> double.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 9:04 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: accessible measuring app?
>> 
>> Hi Sieghard,
>> Do you know of a North American distributer for the Cobolt Talking Tape?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Richard
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>>  Live long and prosper
>> 
>> 
>> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com/>
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 8:43 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: accessible measuring app?
>> 
>> I have been doing woodworking for 20 years and I absolutely agree that a
>> Click Rule or talking tape measure are absolutely essential if you want to
>> do stuff with any degree of accuracy.
>> There is also the Rotomatic (not sure if I spell this correctly), it is
>> somewhat the same concept as a Click Rule, but I believe instead of pulling
>> out a threaded rod which then makes a click every sixteenth of an inch the
>> Rotomatic works by the user turning a stop along a threaded rod and it can
>> give you accuracy down to a 1/64 of an inch whereas the imperial click rule
>> is accurate to 1/16 of an inch and the metric click rule is accurate to 1mm
>> which is better than a sixteenth, but not quite as good a 1/32.
>> Having said this, 1/16 is adequate in a lot of situations and 1mm is of
>> course even better.
>> The Cobalt talking tape measure if set to imperial is also accurate to 1/16
>> and if set to metric it is 1mm. I like the fact that you can include the
>> length of the housing in your measurement if, for example, you want to
>> measure the inside of a cabinet or drawer, you can also measure something
>> and push a button to add that measurement to memory, then measure the next
>> item and add it and so on and in the end push a button to get a total. This
>> can be handy if you do things like baseboard trim, they usually come in 16
>> foot length so I could go and measure several walls and add up each
>> measurement until I get close to 16 feet and this way I can minimize waste.
>> The Cobalt can also be set to read out in inches, feet and inches, e.g. 25
>> inches or 2 feet 1 inches, on the metric side you can do metres, centimetres
>> or millimeters, e.g. 1 metre and 10 centimetres can also be read as 110
>> centimetres or 1,010 millimetres. I assume that Tape King can maybe do the
>> same, but I don’t know. Max, could you contact me off-list as I’d love to
>> learn more about Tape King.
>> I have both a couple of Cobalt tape measures, I have I think 4 imperial
>> click rules and 1 metric because when I am really working on a larger
&g

Re: accessible measuring app?

[Matthew Bullis]

I believe the talking tape measure is in the Maxi Aids catalog or the
Independent Living Aids catalog. I ordered it from one of those about
five years ago, but can't remember which one.
Matthew

On 9/20/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Doing a Google search did give me this:
> Talking Tape Measure by Cobalt – horizons for the
> Blind<https://www.horizons-blind.org/product/talking-tape-measure-by-cobolt/>
>
> You can of course contact Cobalt directly in
> England<https://www.cobolt.co.uk/products/index/talking-tape-measure>,
> they’ll ship to you as far as I know and without the 9 Volt battery it costs
> 52.95 British Pounds which converts approx. to
> $66 to
> $68, maybe $70 max. if your credit card charges a bit of a higher exchange
> rate On this Horizons for the Blind
> Website it’s $105 US and I have a feeling it will cost less than $35 US to
> ship it from England.
> I actually was planning to get one shipped, I have 1 which doesn’t work any
> more and my second one is getting a bit beat up and I believe if you send
> them back they’ll fix them up or replace them. Here in Canada the CNIB sells
> them and I find it interesting how a governmental agency puts such a huge
> mark-up on stuff, they want $169.95 Canadian for it and it actually shows
> it’s out of stock and they don’t know when they get more. 52.95 British
> Pounds converts to approx. 88 Canadian Dollars so their price is almost
> double.
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 9:04 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: accessible measuring app?
>
> Hi Sieghard,
> Do you know of a North American distributer for the Cobolt Talking Tape?
>
> Thanks,
> Richard
>
> Richard
>
>  Live long and prosper
>
>
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com/>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 8:43 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: accessible measuring app?
>
> I have been doing woodworking for 20 years and I absolutely agree that a
> Click Rule or talking tape measure are absolutely essential if you want to
> do stuff with any degree of accuracy.
> There is also the Rotomatic (not sure if I spell this correctly), it is
> somewhat the same concept as a Click Rule, but I believe instead of pulling
> out a threaded rod which then makes a click every sixteenth of an inch the
> Rotomatic works by the user turning a stop along a threaded rod and it can
> give you accuracy down to a 1/64 of an inch whereas the imperial click rule
> is accurate to 1/16 of an inch and the metric click rule is accurate to 1mm
> which is better than a sixteenth, but not quite as good a 1/32.
> Having said this, 1/16 is adequate in a lot of situations and 1mm is of
> course even better.
> The Cobalt talking tape measure if set to imperial is also accurate to 1/16
> and if set to metric it is 1mm. I like the fact that you can include the
> length of the housing in your measurement if, for example, you want to
> measure the inside of a cabinet or drawer, you can also measure something
> and push a button to add that measurement to memory, then measure the next
> item and add it and so on and in the end push a button to get a total. This
> can be handy if you do things like baseboard trim, they usually come in 16
> foot length so I could go and measure several walls and add up each
> measurement until I get close to 16 feet and this way I can minimize waste.
> The Cobalt can also be set to read out in inches, feet and inches, e.g. 25
> inches or 2 feet 1 inches, on the metric side you can do metres, centimetres
> or millimeters, e.g. 1 metre and 10 centimetres can also be read as 110
> centimetres or 1,010 millimetres. I assume that Tape King can maybe do the
> same, but I don’t know. Max, could you contact me off-list as I’d love to
> learn more about Tape King.
> I have both a couple of Cobalt tape measures, I have I think 4 imperial
> click rules and 1 metric because when I am really working on a larger
> project I often will use 2 or 3 at the same time, e.g. if I want to measure
> how far away from the edge of a sheet of plywood the rail of my track saw is
> especially if I am cutting along the 8 foot length of the plywood, it is
> much better to have a click rule on each end than to run around with a
> single one.
> There is absolutely no way an app is going to be accurate enough for any
> sort of good woodworking and I highly doubt you would see a single
> professional and sighted woodworker use an app like the Measure app over a
> tape measure even though they could probably 

RE: accessible measuring app?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Doing a Google search did give me this:
Talking Tape Measure by Cobalt – horizons for the 
Blind<https://www.horizons-blind.org/product/talking-tape-measure-by-cobolt/>

You can of course contact Cobalt directly in 
England<https://www.cobolt.co.uk/products/index/talking-tape-measure>, they’ll 
ship to you as far as I know and without the 9 Volt battery it costs 52.95 
British Pounds which converts approx. to
$66 to
$68, maybe $70 max. if your credit card charges a bit of a higher exchange rate 
On this Horizons for the Blind
Website it’s $105 US and I have a feeling it will cost less than $35 US to ship 
it from England.
I actually was planning to get one shipped, I have 1 which doesn’t work any 
more and my second one is getting a bit beat up and I believe if you send them 
back they’ll fix them up or replace them. Here in Canada the CNIB sells them 
and I find it interesting how a governmental agency puts such a huge mark-up on 
stuff, they want $169.95 Canadian for it and it actually shows it’s out of 
stock and they don’t know when they get more. 52.95 British Pounds converts to 
approx. 88 Canadian Dollars so their price is almost double.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 9:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: accessible measuring app?

Hi Sieghard,
Do you know of a North American distributer for the Cobolt Talking Tape?

Thanks,
Richard

Richard

 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com/>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 8:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: accessible measuring app?

I have been doing woodworking for 20 years and I absolutely agree that a Click 
Rule or talking tape measure are absolutely essential if you want to do stuff 
with any degree of accuracy.
There is also the Rotomatic (not sure if I spell this correctly), it is 
somewhat the same concept as a Click Rule, but I believe instead of pulling out 
a threaded rod which then makes a click every sixteenth of an inch the 
Rotomatic works by the user turning a stop along a threaded rod and it can give 
you accuracy down to a 1/64 of an inch whereas the imperial click rule is 
accurate to 1/16 of an inch and the metric click rule is accurate to 1mm which 
is better than a sixteenth, but not quite as good a 1/32.
Having said this, 1/16 is adequate in a lot of situations and 1mm is of course 
even better.
The Cobalt talking tape measure if set to imperial is also accurate to 1/16 and 
if set to metric it is 1mm. I like the fact that you can include the length of 
the housing in your measurement if, for example, you want to measure the inside 
of a cabinet or drawer, you can also measure something and push a button to add 
that measurement to memory, then measure the next item and add it and so on and 
in the end push a button to get a total. This can be handy if you do things 
like baseboard trim, they usually come in 16 foot length so I could go and 
measure several walls and add up each measurement until I get close to 16 feet 
and this way I can minimize waste. The Cobalt can also be set to read out in 
inches, feet and inches, e.g. 25 inches or 2 feet 1 inches, on the metric side 
you can do metres, centimetres or millimeters, e.g. 1 metre and 10 centimetres 
can also be read as 110 centimetres or 1,010 millimetres. I assume that Tape 
King can maybe do the same, but I don’t know. Max, could you contact me 
off-list as I’d love to learn more about Tape King.
I have both a couple of Cobalt tape measures, I have I think 4 imperial click 
rules and 1 metric because when I am really working on a larger project I often 
will use 2 or 3 at the same time, e.g. if I want to measure how far away from 
the edge of a sheet of plywood the rail of my track saw is especially if I am 
cutting along the 8 foot length of the plywood, it is much better to have a 
click rule on each end than to run around with a single one.
There is absolutely no way an app is going to be accurate enough for any sort 
of good woodworking and I highly doubt you would see a single professional and 
sighted woodworker use an app like the Measure app over a tape measure even 
though they could probably use it with much better precision in terms of lining 
up start and end point. The fact is that if you want to do any sort of 
woodworking it will be an expensive hobby.
Lastly, don’t forget the usefulness of setup blocks/bars like these:
15 piece setup bar 
set<https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.chipsfly.com%2Fproduct%2F12-235.html=02%7C01%7C%7C38b6963939714eaa288808d73de129c0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637045909581367476=%2Bw4BAlHp%2Bz5l06G376xOTQrvEx29%2BB%2FujyLoZS5oHWc%3D=0>
This 15-piece set is one of the most complete and best I have found, I also 
have a couple of smaller

RE: accessible measuring app?

[Richard Turner]

Hi Sieghard,
Do you know of a North American distributer for the Cobolt Talking Tape?
Thanks,
Richard

Richard

 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com/>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 8:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: accessible measuring app?

I have been doing woodworking for 20 years and I absolutely agree that a Click 
Rule or talking tape measure are absolutely essential if you want to do stuff 
with any degree of accuracy.
There is also the Rotomatic (not sure if I spell this correctly), it is 
somewhat the same concept as a Click Rule, but I believe instead of pulling out 
a threaded rod which then makes a click every sixteenth of an inch the 
Rotomatic works by the user turning a stop along a threaded rod and it can give 
you accuracy down to a 1/64 of an inch whereas the imperial click rule is 
accurate to 1/16 of an inch and the metric click rule is accurate to 1mm which 
is better than a sixteenth, but not quite as good a 1/32.
Having said this, 1/16 is adequate in a lot of situations and 1mm is of course 
even better.
The Cobalt talking tape measure if set to imperial is also accurate to 1/16 and 
if set to metric it is 1mm. I like the fact that you can include the length of 
the housing in your measurement if, for example, you want to measure the inside 
of a cabinet or drawer, you can also measure something and push a button to add 
that measurement to memory, then measure the next item and add it and so on and 
in the end push a button to get a total. This can be handy if you do things 
like baseboard trim, they usually come in 16 foot length so I could go and 
measure several walls and add up each measurement until I get close to 16 feet 
and this way I can minimize waste. The Cobalt can also be set to read out in 
inches, feet and inches, e.g. 25 inches or 2 feet 1 inches, on the metric side 
you can do metres, centimetres or millimeters, e.g. 1 metre and 10 centimetres 
can also be read as 110 centimetres or 1,010 millimetres. I assume that Tape 
King can maybe do the same, but I don’t know. Max, could you contact me 
off-list as I’d love to learn more about Tape King.
I have both a couple of Cobalt tape measures, I have I think 4 imperial click 
rules and 1 metric because when I am really working on a larger project I often 
will use 2 or 3 at the same time, e.g. if I want to measure how far away from 
the edge of a sheet of plywood the rail of my track saw is especially if I am 
cutting along the 8 foot length of the plywood, it is much better to have a 
click rule on each end than to run around with a single one.
There is absolutely no way an app is going to be accurate enough for any sort 
of good woodworking and I highly doubt you would see a single professional and 
sighted woodworker use an app like the Measure app over a tape measure even 
though they could probably use it with much better precision in terms of lining 
up start and end point. The fact is that if you want to do any sort of 
woodworking it will be an expensive hobby.
Lastly, don’t forget the usefulness of setup blocks/bars like these:
15 piece setup bar 
set<https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.chipsfly.com%2Fproduct%2F12-235.html=02%7C01%7C%7C38b6963939714eaa288808d73de129c0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637045909581367476=%2Bw4BAlHp%2Bz5l06G376xOTQrvEx29%2BB%2FujyLoZS5oHWc%3D=0>
This 15-piece set is one of the most complete and best I have found, I also 
have a couple of smaller 5 or 6 piece ones which you can get in metric or 
imperial and if I know I want to rip a 2 inch strip off something on my table 
saw or I want to set the height on my router bit to half an inch than using the 
appropriate setup bar is way easier than trying to set the table saw fence with 
the click rule.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Robert 
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Fascinating, hate to think of the possible price.

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Subject: Re: accessible measuring app?


The below came from the Vision Aware site of AFB.
The Click Rule

The Click Rule is a metal tubular 

RE: accessible measuring app?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I have been doing woodworking for 20 years and I absolutely agree that a Click 
Rule or talking tape measure are absolutely essential if you want to do stuff 
with any degree of accuracy.
There is also the Rotomatic (not sure if I spell this correctly), it is 
somewhat the same concept as a Click Rule, but I believe instead of pulling out 
a threaded rod which then makes a click every sixteenth of an inch the 
Rotomatic works by the user turning a stop along a threaded rod and it can give 
you accuracy down to a 1/64 of an inch whereas the imperial click rule is 
accurate to 1/16 of an inch and the metric click rule is accurate to 1mm which 
is better than a sixteenth, but not quite as good a 1/32.
Having said this, 1/16 is adequate in a lot of situations and 1mm is of course 
even better.
The Cobalt talking tape measure if set to imperial is also accurate to 1/16 and 
if set to metric it is 1mm. I like the fact that you can include the length of 
the housing in your measurement if, for example, you want to measure the inside 
of a cabinet or drawer, you can also measure something and push a button to add 
that measurement to memory, then measure the next item and add it and so on and 
in the end push a button to get a total. This can be handy if you do things 
like baseboard trim, they usually come in 16 foot length so I could go and 
measure several walls and add up each measurement until I get close to 16 feet 
and this way I can minimize waste. The Cobalt can also be set to read out in 
inches, feet and inches, e.g. 25 inches or 2 feet 1 inches, on the metric side 
you can do metres, centimetres or millimeters, e.g. 1 metre and 10 centimetres 
can also be read as 110 centimetres or 1,010 millimetres. I assume that Tape 
King can maybe do the same, but I don’t know. Max, could you contact me 
off-list as I’d love to learn more about Tape King.
I have both a couple of Cobalt tape measures, I have I think 4 imperial click 
rules and 1 metric because when I am really working on a larger project I often 
will use 2 or 3 at the same time, e.g. if I want to measure how far away from 
the edge of a sheet of plywood the rail of my track saw is especially if I am 
cutting along the 8 foot length of the plywood, it is much better to have a 
click rule on each end than to run around with a single one.
There is absolutely no way an app is going to be accurate enough for any sort 
of good woodworking and I highly doubt you would see a single professional and 
sighted woodworker use an app like the Measure app over a tape measure even 
though they could probably use it with much better precision in terms of lining 
up start and end point. The fact is that if you want to do any sort of 
woodworking it will be an expensive hobby.
Lastly, don’t forget the usefulness of setup blocks/bars like these:
15 piece setup bar set<https://www.chipsfly.com/product/12-235.html>
This 15-piece set is one of the most complete and best I have found, I also 
have a couple of smaller 5 or 6 piece ones which you can get in metric or 
imperial and if I know I want to rip a 2 inch strip off something on my table 
saw or I want to set the height on my router bit to half an inch than using the 
appropriate setup bar is way easier than trying to set the table saw fence with 
the click rule.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Fascinating, hate to think of the possible price.

robH.
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From: "Richard Turner" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 1:44 AM
Subject: Re: accessible measuring app?


The below came from the Vision Aware site of AFB.
The Click Rule

The Click Rule is a metal tubular device slightly longer than 7 1/2 inches. A 
7-inch threaded rod is inserted into the tube. A
knurled locking knob is screwed into the top of the threaded rod through a long 
slot that has been machined into the tube.

[closeup of someone using the Click Rule to measure a board]

The Click Rule

As the threaded rod is extended into and out of the tube, a clicking sound can 
be heard at 1/16-inch intervals. The threaded rod has
raised threads every 1/2 inch.

The metal tube has two flat rectangular stops or fences mounted on it. One stop 
or fence is located precisely at the open end of the
tube and the raised thread rod protrudes through it. The other stop or fence is 
positioned exactly six inches along the tube from
the stop at the open end of the tube.

The Click Rule comes with three 12-inch extension 

RE: accessible measuring app?

[Robert Wright]

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From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 1:16 AM
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Subject: Re: accessible measuring app?

Fascinating, hate to think of the possible price.

robH.
- Original Message - 
From: "Richard Turner" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 1:44 AM
Subject: Re: accessible measuring app?


The below came from the Vision Aware site of AFB.
The Click Rule

The Click Rule is a metal tubular device slightly longer than 7 1/2 inches. A 
7-inch threaded rod is inserted into the tube. A 
knurled locking knob is screwed into the top of the threaded rod through a long 
slot that has been machined into the tube.

[closeup of someone using the Click Rule to measure a board]

The Click Rule

As the threaded rod is extended into and out of the tube, a clicking sound can 
be heard at 1/16-inch intervals. The threaded rod has 
raised threads every 1/2 inch.

The metal tube has two flat rectangular stops or fences mounted on it. One stop 
or fence is located precisely at the open end of the 
tube and the raised thread rod protrudes through it. The other stop or fence is 
positioned exactly six inches along the tube from 
the stop at the open end of the tube.

The Click Rule comes with three 12-inch extension rods that screw into the end 
of the Click Rule raised thread rod and into each 
other, enabling accurate measurements at 1/16-inch intervals, from zero to four 
feet. Additional extension rods can enable 
measurements beyond four feet.

[The Click Rule with a one-foot extension rod in place]

Click Rule with a one-foot extension rod

The Click Rule can be purchased from the National Federation of the Blind 
Online 
Store<http://secure.nfb.org/ecommerce/asp/default.asp> and from Community 
Advocates Inc., P.O. Box 83304, Lincoln, NE 68501-3304; 
402-486-3091.



Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.


On Sep 19, 2019, at 4:57 PM, David Andrews  wrote:

The NFB used to sell them -- don't know if they still do.

Dave

At 06:25 PM 9/19/2019, you wrote:
Max,

I haven't been able to find anywhere I can purchase a click ruler.
I have a 25ft "braille" steel tape, but it only has markings every 6
inches which is not really accurate enough for my work, and I haven't
found any sources for something more accurate.

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Fascinating, hate to think of the possible price.

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Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 1:44 AM
Subject: Re: accessible measuring app?


The below came from the Vision Aware site of AFB.
The Click Rule

The Click Rule is a metal tubular device slightly longer than 7 1/2 inches. A 
7-inch threaded rod is inserted into the tube. A 
knurled locking knob is screwed into the top of the threaded rod through a long 
slot that has been machined into the tube.

[closeup of someone using the Click Rule to measure a board]

The Click Rule

As the threaded rod is extended into and out of the tube, a clicking sound can 
be heard at 1/16-inch intervals. The threaded rod has 
raised threads every 1/2 inch.

The metal tube has two flat rectangular stops or fences mounted on it. One stop 
or fence is located precisely at the open end of the 
tube and the raised thread rod protrudes through it. The other stop or fence is 
positioned exactly six inches along the tube from 
the stop at the open end of the tube.

The Click Rule comes with three 12-inch extension rods that screw into the end 
of the Click Rule raised thread rod and into each 
other, enabling accurate measurements at 1/16-inch intervals, from zero to four 
feet. Additional extension rods can enable 
measurements beyond four feet.

[The Click Rule with a one-foot extension rod in place]

Click Rule with a one-foot extension rod

The Click Rule can be purchased from the National Federation of the Blind 
Online 
Store<http://secure.nfb.org/ecommerce/asp/default.asp> and from Community 
Advocates Inc., P.O. Box 83304, Lincoln, NE 68501-3304; 
402-486-3091.



Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.


On Sep 19, 2019, at 4:57 PM, David Andrews  wrote:

The NFB used to sell them -- don't know if they still do.

Dave

At 06:25 PM 9/19/2019, you wrote:
Max,

I haven't been able to find anywhere I can purchase a click ruler.
I have a 25ft "braille" steel tape, but it only has markings every 6
inches which is not really accurate enough for my work, and I haven't
found any sources for something more accurate.

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Re: accessible measuring app?

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

I endorse tape king, the only one of these I did any good with.  But still went 
back to the old tried and trusted.

RobH.

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To: "viphone" 
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 11:46 PM
Subject: Re: accessible measuring app?


Hi,
I have Two talking tapes. I have the Cobolt from the UK that I no longer use. 
The One I like is  the Tape King. It is accurate to 
1mm if I remember correctly about the same as the Clickruel. It is also a level.
Max.

> On 20 Sep 2019, at 8:30 am, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
>
> If you are wanting accurate measuring do not rely on an app.
> The click ruler is your best bet.
> Which talking tape is that you have Max?
> How accurate can you get with it?
>
>
> Richard
>
> Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.
>
>
>> On Sep 19, 2019, at 3:11 PM, Agent086b  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> I am a woodworker and have not found a useful App for your purpose. There is 
>> a measure App on the iPhone I have never been able 
>> to use it reliably. I use a Click Rule or a talking tape.
>> Max.
>>
>>> On 20 Sep 2019, at 2:52 am, Donald Raikes  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I am looking for a n accessible app to enable me to take measurements
>>> for some home wood working projects I am interested in doing.
>>>
>>> I would rather not shell out $100.00+ for a talking tape measure, so I
>>> was wondering if there is an app that will get the job done.
>>>
>>> I know there is the measure app and tape measure app but neither seems
>>> to be accesible.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>> Donald
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RE: accessible measuring app?

[Robert Wright]

Donald, the measure app is accessible. First be sure that you are in a lighted 
area. 2nd Place your back camera 2 – 3 inches above the surface you wish to 
measure. DT the add button.
3rd  move to your stopping point and it will announce your distance.

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From: Albert Ruel
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 10:38 PM
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The NFB Independence Store sells it.  I called them to order one about two 
months ago.  

Thx, Albert

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On Sep 19, 2019, at 4:25 PM, Donald Raikes  wrote:

Max,

I haven't been able to find anywhere I can purchase a click ruler.
I have a 25ft "braille" steel tape, but it only has markings every 6
inches which is not really accurate enough for my work, and I haven't
found any sources for something more accurate.

> On 9/19/19, Agent086b  wrote:
> Hi,
> I am a woodworker and have not found a useful App for your purpose. There is
> a measure App on the iPhone I have never been able to use it reliably. I use
> a Click Rule or a talking tape.
> Max.
> 
>> On 20 Sep 2019, at 2:52 am, Donald Raikes  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I am looking for a n accessible app to enable me to take measurements
>> for some home wood working projects I am interested in doing.
>> 
>> I would rather not shell out $100.00+ for a talking tape measure, so I
>> was wondering if there is an app that will get the job done.
>> 
>> I know there is the measure app and tape measure app but neither seems
>> to be accesible.
>> 
>> Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> Donald
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Re: accessible measuring app?

[Albert Ruel]

The NFB Independence Store sells it.  I called them to order one about two 
months ago.  

Thx, Albert

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On Sep 19, 2019, at 4:25 PM, Donald Raikes  wrote:

Max,

I haven't been able to find anywhere I can purchase a click ruler.
I have a 25ft "braille" steel tape, but it only has markings every 6
inches which is not really accurate enough for my work, and I haven't
found any sources for something more accurate.

> On 9/19/19, Agent086b  wrote:
> Hi,
> I am a woodworker and have not found a useful App for your purpose. There is
> a measure App on the iPhone I have never been able to use it reliably. I use
> a Click Rule or a talking tape.
> Max.
> 
>> On 20 Sep 2019, at 2:52 am, Donald Raikes  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I am looking for a n accessible app to enable me to take measurements
>> for some home wood working projects I am interested in doing.
>> 
>> I would rather not shell out $100.00+ for a talking tape measure, so I
>> was wondering if there is an app that will get the job done.
>> 
>> I know there is the measure app and tape measure app but neither seems
>> to be accesible.
>> 
>> Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> Donald
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Re: accessible measuring app?

[Richard Turner]

The below came from the Vision Aware site of AFB.
The Click Rule

The Click Rule is a metal tubular device slightly longer than 7 1/2 inches. A 
7-inch threaded rod is inserted into the tube. A knurled locking knob is 
screwed into the top of the threaded rod through a long slot that has been 
machined into the tube.

[closeup of someone using the Click Rule to measure a board]

The Click Rule

As the threaded rod is extended into and out of the tube, a clicking sound can 
be heard at 1/16-inch intervals. The threaded rod has raised threads every 1/2 
inch.

The metal tube has two flat rectangular stops or fences mounted on it. One stop 
or fence is located precisely at the open end of the tube and the raised thread 
rod protrudes through it. The other stop or fence is positioned exactly six 
inches along the tube from the stop at the open end of the tube.

The Click Rule comes with three 12-inch extension rods that screw into the end 
of the Click Rule raised thread rod and into each other, enabling accurate 
measurements at 1/16-inch intervals, from zero to four feet. Additional 
extension rods can enable measurements beyond four feet.

[The Click Rule with a one-foot extension rod in place]

Click Rule with a one-foot extension rod

The Click Rule can be purchased from the National Federation of the Blind 
Online Store and from 
Community Advocates Inc., P.O. Box 83304, Lincoln, NE 68501-3304; 
402-486-3091.



Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.


On Sep 19, 2019, at 4:57 PM, David Andrews  wrote:

The NFB used to sell them -- don't know if they still do.

Dave

At 06:25 PM 9/19/2019, you wrote:
Max,

I haven't been able to find anywhere I can purchase a click ruler.
I have a 25ft "braille" steel tape, but it only has markings every 6
inches which is not really accurate enough for my work, and I haven't
found any sources for something more accurate.

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Re: accessible measuring app?

[David Andrews]

The NFB used to sell them -- don't know if they still do.

Dave

At 06:25 PM 9/19/2019, you wrote:

Max,

I haven't been able to find anywhere I can purchase a click ruler.
I have a 25ft "braille" steel tape, but it only has markings every 6
inches which is not really accurate enough for my work, and I haven't
found any sources for something more accurate.


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Re: accessible measuring app?

[Donald Raikes]

Max,

I haven't been able to find anywhere I can purchase a click ruler.
I have a 25ft "braille" steel tape, but it only has markings every 6
inches which is not really accurate enough for my work, and I haven't
found any sources for something more accurate.

On 9/19/19, Agent086b  wrote:
> Hi,
> I am a woodworker and have not found a useful App for your purpose. There is
> a measure App on the iPhone I have never been able to use it reliably. I use
> a Click Rule or a talking tape.
> Max.
>
>> On 20 Sep 2019, at 2:52 am, Donald Raikes  wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am looking for a n accessible app to enable me to take measurements
>> for some home wood working projects I am interested in doing.
>>
>> I would rather not shell out $100.00+ for a talking tape measure, so I
>> was wondering if there is an app that will get the job done.
>>
>> I know there is the measure app and tape measure app but neither seems
>> to be accesible.
>>
>> Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Donald
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Re: accessible measuring app?

[Agent086b]

Hi,
I have Two talking tapes. I have the Cobolt from the UK that I no longer use. 
The One I like is  the Tape King. It is accurate to 1mm if I remember correctly 
about the same as the Clickruel. It is also a level.
Max.

> On 20 Sep 2019, at 8:30 am, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> If you are wanting accurate measuring do not rely on an app.
> The click ruler is your best bet.
> Which talking tape is that you have Max?
> How accurate can you get with it?
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 19, 2019, at 3:11 PM, Agent086b  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I am a woodworker and have not found a useful App for your purpose. There is 
>> a measure App on the iPhone I have never been able to use it reliably. I use 
>> a Click Rule or a talking tape. 
>> Max.
>> 
>>> On 20 Sep 2019, at 2:52 am, Donald Raikes  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> I am looking for a n accessible app to enable me to take measurements
>>> for some home wood working projects I am interested in doing.
>>> 
>>> I would rather not shell out $100.00+ for a talking tape measure, so I
>>> was wondering if there is an app that will get the job done.
>>> 
>>> I know there is the measure app and tape measure app but neither seems
>>> to be accesible.
>>> 
>>> Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Donald
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Re: accessible measuring app?

[Richard Turner]

If you are wanting accurate measuring do not rely on an app.
The click ruler is your best bet.
Which talking tape is that you have Max?
How accurate can you get with it?


Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.


On Sep 19, 2019, at 3:11 PM, Agent086b  wrote:

Hi,
I am a woodworker and have not found a useful App for your purpose. There is a 
measure App on the iPhone I have never been able to use it reliably. I use a 
Click Rule or a talking tape.
Max.

On 20 Sep 2019, at 2:52 am, Donald Raikes  wrote:

Hello,

I am looking for a n accessible app to enable me to take measurements
for some home wood working projects I am interested in doing.

I would rather not shell out $100.00+ for a talking tape measure, so I
was wondering if there is an app that will get the job done.

I know there is the measure app and tape measure app but neither seems
to be accesible.

Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Donald

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Re: accessible measuring app?

[Agent086b]

Hi,
I am a woodworker and have not found a useful App for your purpose. There is a 
measure App on the iPhone I have never been able to use it reliably. I use a 
Click Rule or a talking tape. 
Max.

> On 20 Sep 2019, at 2:52 am, Donald Raikes  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I am looking for a n accessible app to enable me to take measurements
> for some home wood working projects I am interested in doing.
> 
> I would rather not shell out $100.00+ for a talking tape measure, so I
> was wondering if there is an app that will get the job done.
> 
> I know there is the measure app and tape measure app but neither seems
> to be accesible.
> 
> Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
> 
> Donald
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Re: accessible measuring app?

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

I prefer a standard locking steel tape measure and not have phone floating 
about the work bench. I'm DIY of the old school.

RobH.
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From: "Donald Raikes" 
To: "viphone" 
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 5:52 PM
Subject: accessible measuring app?


Hello,

I am looking for a n accessible app to enable me to take measurements
for some home wood working projects I am interested in doing.

I would rather not shell out $100.00+ for a talking tape measure, so I
was wondering if there is an app that will get the job done.

I know there is the measure app and tape measure app but neither seems
to be accesible.

Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Donald

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