Re: SIRI definitely requires improvements
Hello, When I want to find something on the web I use google almost all the time. When I want a piece of info from my phone, like a contact or opening an app, then I use siri. Nancy On Jul 26, 2015, at 1:37 PM, Marie scribbl...@comcast.net wrote: Is cortana available on the IPhone? M From: Neal Ewers mailto:neal.ew...@ravenswood.org Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2015 10:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: SIRI definitely requires improvements Yes, I think Siri has been dumbed down to look for pizza places, coffee shops, and a few other things that make money for businesses. I am obviously over stating this. She is obviously better than that and Sieghard is right that she will set alarms and do other useful things. But if I had to think of the only way to ask my wife what she wanted for dinner tonight, she may starve in the process. Somehow, Google is more of a personal assistant in this way in that it seems to understand more ways of asking a particular question than Siri. I use her for what she is good at, but Google and Cortana are rapidly taking her place. Neal From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2015 10:45 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: SIRI definitely requires improvements Hi everybody, This goes back to the thread about SIRI and the question Neil asked about the latitude of Maddison, Wisconsin. I just tried this and asked SIRI “What is the latitude of Maddison, Wisconsin”. Just as Neil reported, SIRI came back “I don’t understand what is the latitude of Wisconsin”. I then asked “What latitude is Vancouver, British Columbia”. Notice the slight difference in wording “What is the latitude of…” and “What latitude is…”. Anyhow, SIRI came back with the answer promptly and when I asked in the same way “What latitude is Maddison, Wisconsin” SIRI also answered right away. Then I asked using the original wording which didn’t work “What is the latitude of Vancouver, British Columbia”. SIRI answered “The only possibility I found is Latitude Restaurant, is that the one you are looking for?” Then SIRI beeped waiting for me to say “Yes” or “No:” as if I had asked it to look for restaurants with that name. I use SIRI a lot and often like how well it works especially for dictation. However, sometimes it’s ridiculous how it gets simple things wrong or can’t deliver an answer which Google Voice Search has no problems with. I also still find more complex dictation is difficult and I can’t believe there still is no way to just spell out a word I know SIRI will get wrong. I really hope Apple puts some major effort into making SIRI better. They introduced this idea of a personal assistant, but considering SIRI has been around for almost 4 years it has gone through amazingly few real upgrades and it can’t even tell you the battery status on your phone and I still can’t easily set a 2-part reminder like this: Set a reminder on August 6 at 10 AM SIRI will say “Tell me what you want to be reminded about”, I say: Dentist appointment at 11 AM. This used to be possible and to me it sounds natural, but if I say it this way SIRI sets a reminder “Dentist appointment” for August 6 at 11 AM, it completely ignores that I said “Dentist appointment at 10 AM” and just interprets it the way it wants. If, however, I say this: “Set a reminder on August 6 at 10 AM about my dentist appointment at 11 AM” it creates it correctly, the reminder time is set to August 6 at 10 AM and the reminder text says “My dentist appointment at 11 AM”. Apple made such a big deal of how you can talk naturally to SIRI, but while you can set an alarm by saying many different things, a lot of other commands have to be delivered just so or SIRI will get it wrong. Steve Jobbs old adage “It just works” definitely does not apply here. Regards, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone http
Re: SIRI definitely requires improvements
Apparently, Microsoft is making a version for iOS, but somehow, I don’t see Apple approving that since it directly competes with Siri. On Jul 26, 2015, at 12:37 PM, Marie scribbl...@comcast.net wrote: Is cortana available on the IPhone? M From: Neal Ewers mailto:neal.ew...@ravenswood.org Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2015 10:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: SIRI definitely requires improvements Yes, I think Siri has been dumbed down to look for pizza places, coffee shops, and a few other things that make money for businesses. I am obviously over stating this. She is obviously better than that and Sieghard is right that she will set alarms and do other useful things. But if I had to think of the only way to ask my wife what she wanted for dinner tonight, she may starve in the process. Somehow, Google is more of a personal assistant in this way in that it seems to understand more ways of asking a particular question than Siri. I use her for what she is good at, but Google and Cortana are rapidly taking her place. Neal From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2015 10:45 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: SIRI definitely requires improvements Hi everybody, This goes back to the thread about SIRI and the question Neil asked about the latitude of Maddison, Wisconsin. I just tried this and asked SIRI “What is the latitude of Maddison, Wisconsin”. Just as Neil reported, SIRI came back “I don’t understand what is the latitude of Wisconsin”. I then asked “What latitude is Vancouver, British Columbia”. Notice the slight difference in wording “What is the latitude of…” and “What latitude is…”. Anyhow, SIRI came back with the answer promptly and when I asked in the same way “What latitude is Maddison, Wisconsin” SIRI also answered right away. Then I asked using the original wording which didn’t work “What is the latitude of Vancouver, British Columbia”. SIRI answered “The only possibility I found is Latitude Restaurant, is that the one you are looking for?” Then SIRI beeped waiting for me to say “Yes” or “No:” as if I had asked it to look for restaurants with that name. I use SIRI a lot and often like how well it works especially for dictation. However, sometimes it’s ridiculous how it gets simple things wrong or can’t deliver an answer which Google Voice Search has no problems with. I also still find more complex dictation is difficult and I can’t believe there still is no way to just spell out a word I know SIRI will get wrong. I really hope Apple puts some major effort into making SIRI better. They introduced this idea of a personal assistant, but considering SIRI has been around for almost 4 years it has gone through amazingly few real upgrades and it can’t even tell you the battery status on your phone and I still can’t easily set a 2-part reminder like this: Set a reminder on August 6 at 10 AM SIRI will say “Tell me what you want to be reminded about”, I say: Dentist appointment at 11 AM. This used to be possible and to me it sounds natural, but if I say it this way SIRI sets a reminder “Dentist appointment” for August 6 at 11 AM, it completely ignores that I said “Dentist appointment at 10 AM” and just interprets it the way it wants. If, however, I say this: “Set a reminder on August 6 at 10 AM about my dentist appointment at 11 AM” it creates it correctly, the reminder time is set to August 6 at 10 AM and the reminder text says “My dentist appointment at 11 AM”. Apple made such a big deal of how you can talk naturally to SIRI, but while you can set an alarm by saying many different things, a lot of other commands have to be delivered just so or SIRI will get it wrong. Steve Jobbs old adage “It just works” definitely does not apply here. Regards, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http
Re: SIRI definitely requires improvements
Hi, That's right but my point is she couldn't say it takes place on and gives the exact date. I didn't think it was a hard question but she did. Another thing Siri can't do is give past weather information. for instance she can't tell you when Sunrise was on June 21st 2015 in Philadelphia. she informs me she can't give past weather info. Alrighty then (laughs). Robin -Original Message- From: John Panarese Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2015 12:46 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: SIRI definitely requires improvements I just asked her that question and she gave me an article that talks about the Breeder’s Cup in October of 2015. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Jul 26, 2015, at 12:44 PM, Robin Frost robinn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Along these same lines I recently asked Siri when the Breeders cup was this year and she replied “hmm horse racing I wish I knew more about that.” She knew it was a horse race but couldn’t figure when it’s to be held. Even when she annoys me she gives me a giggle. But I agree with you I wish they’d improve her too. Robin From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2015 11:45 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: SIRI definitely requires improvements Hi everybody, This goes back to the thread about SIRI and the question Neil asked about the latitude of Maddison, Wisconsin. I just tried this and asked SIRI “What is the latitude of Maddison, Wisconsin”. Just as Neil reported, SIRI came back “I don’t understand what is the latitude of Wisconsin”. I then asked “What latitude is Vancouver, British Columbia”. Notice the slight difference in wording “What is the latitude of…” and “What latitude is…”. Anyhow, SIRI came back with the answer promptly and when I asked in the same way “What latitude is Maddison, Wisconsin” SIRI also answered right away. Then I asked using the original wording which didn’t work “What is the latitude of Vancouver, British Columbia”. SIRI answered “The only possibility I found is Latitude Restaurant, is that the one you are looking for?” Then SIRI beeped waiting for me to say “Yes” or “No:” as if I had asked it to look for restaurants with that name. I use SIRI a lot and often like how well it works especially for dictation. However, sometimes it’s ridiculous how it gets simple things wrong or can’t deliver an answer which Google Voice Search has no problems with. I also still find more complex dictation is difficult and I can’t believe there still is no way to just spell out a word I know SIRI will get wrong. I really hope Apple puts some major effort into making SIRI better. They introduced this idea of a personal assistant, but considering SIRI has been around for almost 4 years it has gone through amazingly few real upgrades and it can’t even tell you the battery status on your phone and I still can’t easily set a 2-part reminder like this: Set a reminder on August 6 at 10 AM SIRI will say “Tell me what you want to be reminded about”, I say: Dentist appointment at 11 AM. This used to be possible and to me it sounds natural, but if I say it this way SIRI sets a reminder “Dentist appointment” for August 6 at 11 AM, it completely ignores that I said “Dentist appointment at 10 AM” and just interprets it the way it wants. If, however, I say this: “Set a reminder on August 6 at 10 AM about my dentist appointment at 11 AM” it creates it correctly, the reminder time is set to August 6 at 10 AM and the reminder text says “My dentist appointment at 11 AM”. Apple made such a big deal of how you can talk naturally to SIRI, but while you can set an alarm by saying many different things, a lot of other commands have to be delivered just so or SIRI will get it wrong. Steve Jobbs old adage “It just works” definitely does not apply here. Regards, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important
RE: SIRI definitely requires improvements
Well, maybe since Apple added the male voice she is having a gender crisis, I mean people usually refer to SIRI as “her” so if you use the male voice she may just be confused even though she answers “I exist beyond your human concept of gender” when you ask “SIRI, are you a man or a women?” *smile*. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Neal Ewers Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2015 10:03 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: SIRI definitely requires improvements Yes, I think Siri has been dumbed down to look for pizza places, coffee shops, and a few other things that make money for businesses. I am obviously over stating this. She is obviously better than that and Sieghard is right that she will set alarms and do other useful things. But if I had to think of the only way to ask my wife what she wanted for dinner tonight, she may starve in the process. Somehow, Google is more of a personal assistant in this way in that it seems to understand more ways of asking a particular question than Siri. I use her for what she is good at, but Google and Cortana are rapidly taking her place. Neal From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2015 10:45 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: SIRI definitely requires improvements Hi everybody, This goes back to the thread about SIRI and the question Neil asked about the latitude of Maddison, Wisconsin. I just tried this and asked SIRI “What is the latitude of Maddison, Wisconsin”. Just as Neil reported, SIRI came back “I don’t understand what is the latitude of Wisconsin”. I then asked “What latitude is Vancouver, British Columbia”. Notice the slight difference in wording “What is the latitude of…” and “What latitude is…”. Anyhow, SIRI came back with the answer promptly and when I asked in the same way “What latitude is Maddison, Wisconsin” SIRI also answered right away. Then I asked using the original wording which didn’t work “What is the latitude of Vancouver, British Columbia”. SIRI answered “The only possibility I found is Latitude Restaurant, is that the one you are looking for?” Then SIRI beeped waiting for me to say “Yes” or “No:” as if I had asked it to look for restaurants with that name. I use SIRI a lot and often like how well it works especially for dictation. However, sometimes it’s ridiculous how it gets simple things wrong or can’t deliver an answer which Google Voice Search has no problems with. I also still find more complex dictation is difficult and I can’t believe there still is no way to just spell out a word I know SIRI will get wrong. I really hope Apple puts some major effort into making SIRI better. They introduced this idea of a personal assistant, but considering SIRI has been around for almost 4 years it has gone through amazingly few real upgrades and it can’t even tell you the battery status on your phone and I still can’t easily set a 2-part reminder like this: Set a reminder on August 6 at 10 AM SIRI will say “Tell me what you want to be reminded about”, I say: Dentist appointment at 11 AM. This used to be possible and to me it sounds natural, but if I say it this way SIRI sets a reminder “Dentist appointment” for August 6 at 11 AM, it completely ignores that I said “Dentist appointment at 10 AM” and just interprets it the way it wants. If, however, I say this: “Set a reminder on August 6 at 10 AM about my dentist appointment at 11 AM” it creates it correctly, the reminder time is set to August 6 at 10 AM and the reminder text says “My dentist appointment at 11 AM”. Apple made such a big deal of how you can talk naturally to SIRI, but while you can set an alarm by saying many different things, a lot of other commands have to be delivered just so or SIRI will get it wrong. Steve Jobbs old adage “It just works” definitely does not apply here. Regards, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https
SIRI definitely requires improvements
Hi everybody, This goes back to the thread about SIRI and the question Neil asked about the latitude of Maddison, Wisconsin. I just tried this and asked SIRI What is the latitude of Maddison, Wisconsin. Just as Neil reported, SIRI came back I don't understand what is the latitude of Wisconsin. I then asked What latitude is Vancouver, British Columbia. Notice the slight difference in wording What is the latitude of. and What latitude is.. Anyhow, SIRI came back with the answer promptly and when I asked in the same way What latitude is Maddison, Wisconsin SIRI also answered right away. Then I asked using the original wording which didn't work What is the latitude of Vancouver, British Columbia. SIRI answered The only possibility I found is Latitude Restaurant, is that the one you are looking for? Then SIRI beeped waiting for me to say Yes or No: as if I had asked it to look for restaurants with that name. I use SIRI a lot and often like how well it works especially for dictation. However, sometimes it's ridiculous how it gets simple things wrong or can't deliver an answer which Google Voice Search has no problems with. I also still find more complex dictation is difficult and I can't believe there still is no way to just spell out a word I know SIRI will get wrong. I really hope Apple puts some major effort into making SIRI better. They introduced this idea of a personal assistant, but considering SIRI has been around for almost 4 years it has gone through amazingly few real upgrades and it can't even tell you the battery status on your phone and I still can't easily set a 2-part reminder like this: Set a reminder on August 6 at 10 AM SIRI will say Tell me what you want to be reminded about, I say: Dentist appointment at 11 AM. This used to be possible and to me it sounds natural, but if I say it this way SIRI sets a reminder Dentist appointment for August 6 at 11 AM, it completely ignores that I said Dentist appointment at 10 AM and just interprets it the way it wants. If, however, I say this: Set a reminder on August 6 at 10 AM about my dentist appointment at 11 AM it creates it correctly, the reminder time is set to August 6 at 10 AM and the reminder text says My dentist appointment at 11 AM. Apple made such a big deal of how you can talk naturally to SIRI, but while you can set an alarm by saying many different things, a lot of other commands have to be delivered just so or SIRI will get it wrong. Steve Jobbs old adage It just works definitely does not apply here. Regards, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: SIRI definitely requires improvements
Yes, unless Siri has a much easier approach and at least can come back with Do you want ... so you can answer with a one word, it's still not measuring up. It's just the occasional surprise for which I am thankful! We should all start saying things to Apple about this ... Carol P - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2015 4:45 PM Subject: SIRI definitely requires improvements Hi everybody, This goes back to the thread about SIRI and the question Neil asked about the latitude of Maddison, Wisconsin. I just tried this and asked SIRI “What is the latitude of Maddison, Wisconsin”. Just as Neil reported, SIRI came back “I don’t understand what is the latitude of Wisconsin”. I then asked “What latitude is Vancouver, British Columbia”. Notice the slight difference in wording “What is the latitude of…” and “What latitude is…”. Anyhow, SIRI came back with the answer promptly and when I asked in the same way “What latitude is Maddison, Wisconsin” SIRI also answered right away. Then I asked using the original wording which didn’t work “What is the latitude of Vancouver, British Columbia”. SIRI answered “The only possibility I found is Latitude Restaurant, is that the one you are looking for?” Then SIRI beeped waiting for me to say “Yes” or “No:” as if I had asked it to look for restaurants with that name. I use SIRI a lot and often like how well it works especially for dictation. However, sometimes it’s ridiculous how it gets simple things wrong or can’t deliver an answer which Google Voice Search has no problems with. I also still find more complex dictation is difficult and I can’t believe there still is no way to just spell out a word I know SIRI will get wrong. I really hope Apple puts some major effort into making SIRI better. They introduced this idea of a personal assistant, but considering SIRI has been around for almost 4 years it has gone through amazingly few real upgrades and it can’t even tell you the battery status on your phone and I still can’t easily set a 2-part reminder like this: Set a reminder on August 6 at 10 AM SIRI will say “Tell me what you want to be reminded about”, I say: Dentist appointment at 11 AM. This used to be possible and to me it sounds natural, but if I say it this way SIRI sets a reminder “Dentist appointment” for August 6 at 11 AM, it completely ignores that I said “Dentist appointment at 10 AM” and just interprets it the way it wants. If, however, I say this: “Set a reminder on August 6 at 10 AM about my dentist appointment at 11 AM” it creates it correctly, the reminder time is set to August 6 at 10 AM and the reminder text says “My dentist appointment at 11 AM”. Apple made such a big deal of how you can talk naturally to SIRI, but while you can set an alarm by saying many different things, a lot of other commands have to be delivered just so or SIRI will get it wrong. Steve Jobbs old adage “It just works” definitely does not apply here. Regards, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: SIRI definitely requires improvements
Is cortana available on the IPhone? M From: Neal Ewers Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2015 10:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: SIRI definitely requires improvements Yes, I think Siri has been dumbed down to look for pizza places, coffee shops, and a few other things that make money for businesses. I am obviously over stating this. She is obviously better than that and Sieghard is right that she will set alarms and do other useful things. But if I had to think of the only way to ask my wife what she wanted for dinner tonight, she may starve in the process. Somehow, Google is more of a personal assistant in this way in that it seems to understand more ways of asking a particular question than Siri. I use her for what she is good at, but Google and Cortana are rapidly taking her place. Neal From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2015 10:45 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: SIRI definitely requires improvements Hi everybody, This goes back to the thread about SIRI and the question Neil asked about the latitude of Maddison, Wisconsin. I just tried this and asked SIRI “What is the latitude of Maddison, Wisconsin”. Just as Neil reported, SIRI came back “I don’t understand what is the latitude of Wisconsin”. I then asked “What latitude is Vancouver, British Columbia”. Notice the slight difference in wording “What is the latitude of…” and “What latitude is…”. Anyhow, SIRI came back with the answer promptly and when I asked in the same way “What latitude is Maddison, Wisconsin” SIRI also answered right away. Then I asked using the original wording which didn’t work “What is the latitude of Vancouver, British Columbia”. SIRI answered “The only possibility I found is Latitude Restaurant, is that the one you are looking for?” Then SIRI beeped waiting for me to say “Yes” or “No:” as if I had asked it to look for restaurants with that name. I use SIRI a lot and often like how well it works especially for dictation. However, sometimes it’s ridiculous how it gets simple things wrong or can’t deliver an answer which Google Voice Search has no problems with. I also still find more complex dictation is difficult and I can’t believe there still is no way to just spell out a word I know SIRI will get wrong. I really hope Apple puts some major effort into making SIRI better. They introduced this idea of a personal assistant, but considering SIRI has been around for almost 4 years it has gone through amazingly few real upgrades and it can’t even tell you the battery status on your phone and I still can’t easily set a 2-part reminder like this: Set a reminder on August 6 at 10 AM SIRI will say “Tell me what you want to be reminded about”, I say: Dentist appointment at 11 AM. This used to be possible and to me it sounds natural, but if I say it this way SIRI sets a reminder “Dentist appointment” for August 6 at 11 AM, it completely ignores that I said “Dentist appointment at 10 AM” and just interprets it the way it wants. If, however, I say this: “Set a reminder on August 6 at 10 AM about my dentist appointment at 11 AM” it creates it correctly, the reminder time is set to August 6 at 10 AM and the reminder text says “My dentist appointment at 11 AM”. Apple made such a big deal of how you can talk naturally to SIRI, but while you can set an alarm by saying many different things, a lot of other commands have to be delivered just so or SIRI will get it wrong. Steve Jobbs old adage “It just works” definitely does not apply here. Regards, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You
Re: SIRI definitely requires improvements
I think Siri will have really become something is when you can cary on a normal conversation with her or him as the case may be. Alan Sent from my iPad Air On Jul 26, 2015, at 9:52 AM, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone viphone@googlegroups.com wrote: Yes, unless Siri has a much easier approach and at least can come back with Do you want ... so you can answer with a one word, it's still not measuring up. It's just the occasional surprise for which I am thankful! We should all start saying things to Apple about this ... Carol P - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2015 4:45 PM Subject: SIRI definitely requires improvements Hi everybody, This goes back to the thread about SIRI and the question Neil asked about the latitude of Maddison, Wisconsin. I just tried this and asked SIRI “What is the latitude of Maddison, Wisconsin”. Just as Neil reported, SIRI came back “I don’t understand what is the latitude of Wisconsin”. I then asked “What latitude is Vancouver, British Columbia”. Notice the slight difference in wording “What is the latitude of…” and “What latitude is…”. Anyhow, SIRI came back with the answer promptly and when I asked in the same way “What latitude is Maddison, Wisconsin” SIRI also answered right away. Then I asked using the original wording which didn’t work “What is the latitude of Vancouver, British Columbia”. SIRI answered “The only possibility I found is Latitude Restaurant, is that the one you are looking for?” Then SIRI beeped waiting for me to say “Yes” or “No:” as if I had asked it to look for restaurants with that name. I use SIRI a lot and often like how well it works especially for dictation. However, sometimes it’s ridiculous how it gets simple things wrong or can’t deliver an answer which Google Voice Search has no problems with. I also still find more complex dictation is difficult and I can’t believe there still is no way to just spell out a word I know SIRI will get wrong. I really hope Apple puts some major effort into making SIRI better. They introduced this idea of a personal assistant, but considering SIRI has been around for almost 4 years it has gone through amazingly few real upgrades and it can’t even tell you the battery status on your phone and I still can’t easily set a 2-part reminder like this: Set a reminder on August 6 at 10 AM SIRI will say “Tell me what you want to be reminded about”, I say: Dentist appointment at 11 AM. This used to be possible and to me it sounds natural, but if I say it this way SIRI sets a reminder “Dentist appointment” for August 6 at 11 AM, it completely ignores that I said “Dentist appointment at 10 AM” and just interprets it the way it wants. If, however, I say this: “Set a reminder on August 6 at 10 AM about my dentist appointment at 11 AM” it creates it correctly, the reminder time is set to August 6 at 10 AM and the reminder text says “My dentist appointment at 11 AM”. Apple made such a big deal of how you can talk naturally to SIRI, but while you can set an alarm by saying many different things, a lot of other commands have to be delivered just so or SIRI will get it wrong. Steve Jobbs old adage “It just works” definitely does not apply here. Regards, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email
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I just asked her that question and she gave me an article that talks about the Breeder’s Cup in October of 2015. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Jul 26, 2015, at 12:44 PM, Robin Frost robinn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Along these same lines I recently asked Siri when the Breeders cup was this year and she replied “hmm horse racing I wish I knew more about that.” She knew it was a horse race but couldn’t figure when it’s to be held. Even when she annoys me she gives me a giggle. But I agree with you I wish they’d improve her too. Robin From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2015 11:45 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: SIRI definitely requires improvements Hi everybody, This goes back to the thread about SIRI and the question Neil asked about the latitude of Maddison, Wisconsin. I just tried this and asked SIRI “What is the latitude of Maddison, Wisconsin”. Just as Neil reported, SIRI came back “I don’t understand what is the latitude of Wisconsin”. I then asked “What latitude is Vancouver, British Columbia”. Notice the slight difference in wording “What is the latitude of…” and “What latitude is…”. Anyhow, SIRI came back with the answer promptly and when I asked in the same way “What latitude is Maddison, Wisconsin” SIRI also answered right away. Then I asked using the original wording which didn’t work “What is the latitude of Vancouver, British Columbia”. SIRI answered “The only possibility I found is Latitude Restaurant, is that the one you are looking for?” Then SIRI beeped waiting for me to say “Yes” or “No:” as if I had asked it to look for restaurants with that name. I use SIRI a lot and often like how well it works especially for dictation. However, sometimes it’s ridiculous how it gets simple things wrong or can’t deliver an answer which Google Voice Search has no problems with. I also still find more complex dictation is difficult and I can’t believe there still is no way to just spell out a word I know SIRI will get wrong. I really hope Apple puts some major effort into making SIRI better. They introduced this idea of a personal assistant, but considering SIRI has been around for almost 4 years it has gone through amazingly few real upgrades and it can’t even tell you the battery status on your phone and I still can’t easily set a 2-part reminder like this: Set a reminder on August 6 at 10 AM SIRI will say “Tell me what you want to be reminded about”, I say: Dentist appointment at 11 AM. This used to be possible and to me it sounds natural, but if I say it this way SIRI sets a reminder “Dentist appointment” for August 6 at 11 AM, it completely ignores that I said “Dentist appointment at 10 AM” and just interprets it the way it wants. If, however, I say this: “Set a reminder on August 6 at 10 AM about my dentist appointment at 11 AM” it creates it correctly, the reminder time is set to August 6 at 10 AM and the reminder text says “My dentist appointment at 11 AM”. Apple made such a big deal of how you can talk naturally to SIRI, but while you can set an alarm by saying many different things, a lot of other commands have to be delivered just so or SIRI will get it wrong. Steve Jobbs old adage “It just works” definitely does not apply here. Regards, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because
RE: SIRI definitely requires improvements
Yes, I think Siri has been dumbed down to look for pizza places, coffee shops, and a few other things that make money for businesses. I am obviously over stating this. She is obviously better than that and Sieghard is right that she will set alarms and do other useful things. But if I had to think of the only way to ask my wife what she wanted for dinner tonight, she may starve in the process. Somehow, Google is more of a personal assistant in this way in that it seems to understand more ways of asking a particular question than Siri. I use her for what she is good at, but Google and Cortana are rapidly taking her place. Neal From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2015 10:45 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: SIRI definitely requires improvements Hi everybody, This goes back to the thread about SIRI and the question Neil asked about the latitude of Maddison, Wisconsin. I just tried this and asked SIRI “What is the latitude of Maddison, Wisconsin”. Just as Neil reported, SIRI came back “I don’t understand what is the latitude of Wisconsin”. I then asked “What latitude is Vancouver, British Columbia”. Notice the slight difference in wording “What is the latitude of…” and “What latitude is…”. Anyhow, SIRI came back with the answer promptly and when I asked in the same way “What latitude is Maddison, Wisconsin” SIRI also answered right away. Then I asked using the original wording which didn’t work “What is the latitude of Vancouver, British Columbia”. SIRI answered “The only possibility I found is Latitude Restaurant, is that the one you are looking for?” Then SIRI beeped waiting for me to say “Yes” or “No:” as if I had asked it to look for restaurants with that name. I use SIRI a lot and often like how well it works especially for dictation. However, sometimes it’s ridiculous how it gets simple things wrong or can’t deliver an answer which Google Voice Search has no problems with. I also still find more complex dictation is difficult and I can’t believe there still is no way to just spell out a word I know SIRI will get wrong. I really hope Apple puts some major effort into making SIRI better. They introduced this idea of a personal assistant, but considering SIRI has been around for almost 4 years it has gone through amazingly few real upgrades and it can’t even tell you the battery status on your phone and I still can’t easily set a 2-part reminder like this: Set a reminder on August 6 at 10 AM SIRI will say “Tell me what you want to be reminded about”, I say: Dentist appointment at 11 AM. This used to be possible and to me it sounds natural, but if I say it this way SIRI sets a reminder “Dentist appointment” for August 6 at 11 AM, it completely ignores that I said “Dentist appointment at 10 AM” and just interprets it the way it wants. If, however, I say this: “Set a reminder on August 6 at 10 AM about my dentist appointment at 11 AM” it creates it correctly, the reminder time is set to August 6 at 10 AM and the reminder text says “My dentist appointment at 11 AM”. Apple made such a big deal of how you can talk naturally to SIRI, but while you can set an alarm by saying many different things, a lot of other commands have to be delivered just so or SIRI will get it wrong. Steve Jobbs old adage “It just works” definitely does not apply here. Regards, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop
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Lots of apps in the App Store compete with Apple products, like the Google app. I don't think it'll have any trouble getting in. Christopher (CJ) on the move Chaltain at Gmail On Jul 26, 2015, at 11:40 AM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: Apparently, Microsoft is making a version for iOS, but somehow, I don’t see Apple approving that since it directly competes with Siri. On Jul 26, 2015, at 12:37 PM, Marie scribbl...@comcast.net wrote: Is cortana available on the IPhone? M From: Neal Ewers Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2015 10:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: SIRI definitely requires improvements Yes, I think Siri has been dumbed down to look for pizza places, coffee shops, and a few other things that make money for businesses. I am obviously over stating this. She is obviously better than that and Sieghard is right that she will set alarms and do other useful things. But if I had to think of the only way to ask my wife what she wanted for dinner tonight, she may starve in the process. Somehow, Google is more of a personal assistant in this way in that it seems to understand more ways of asking a particular question than Siri. I use her for what she is good at, but Google and Cortana are rapidly taking her place. Neal From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2015 10:45 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: SIRI definitely requires improvements Hi everybody, This goes back to the thread about SIRI and the question Neil asked about the latitude of Maddison, Wisconsin. I just tried this and asked SIRI “What is the latitude of Maddison, Wisconsin”. Just as Neil reported, SIRI came back “I don’t understand what is the latitude of Wisconsin”. I then asked “What latitude is Vancouver, British Columbia”. Notice the slight difference in wording “What is the latitude of…” and “What latitude is…”. Anyhow, SIRI came back with the answer promptly and when I asked in the same way “What latitude is Maddison, Wisconsin” SIRI also answered right away. Then I asked using the original wording which didn’t work “What is the latitude of Vancouver, British Columbia”. SIRI answered “The only possibility I found is Latitude Restaurant, is that the one you are looking for?” Then SIRI beeped waiting for me to say “Yes” or “No:” as if I had asked it to look for restaurants with that name. I use SIRI a lot and often like how well it works especially for dictation. However, sometimes it’s ridiculous how it gets simple things wrong or can’t deliver an answer which Google Voice Search has no problems with. I also still find more complex dictation is difficult and I can’t believe there still is no way to just spell out a word I know SIRI will get wrong. I really hope Apple puts some major effort into making SIRI better. They introduced this idea of a personal assistant, but considering SIRI has been around for almost 4 years it has gone through amazingly few real upgrades and it can’t even tell you the battery status on your phone and I still can’t easily set a 2-part reminder like this: Set a reminder on August 6 at 10 AM SIRI will say “Tell me what you want to be reminded about”, I say: Dentist appointment at 11 AM. This used to be possible and to me it sounds natural, but if I say it this way SIRI sets a reminder “Dentist appointment” for August 6 at 11 AM, it completely ignores that I said “Dentist appointment at 10 AM” and just interprets it the way it wants. If, however, I say this: “Set a reminder on August 6 at 10 AM about my dentist appointment at 11 AM” it creates it correctly, the reminder time is set to August 6 at 10 AM and the reminder text says “My dentist appointment at 11 AM”. Apple made such a big deal of how you can talk naturally to SIRI, but while you can set an alarm by saying many different things, a lot of other commands have to be delivered just so or SIRI will get it wrong. Steve Jobbs old adage “It just works” definitely does not apply here. Regards, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more
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Wait, Kortana is for iOS now? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 26, 2015, at 12:02 PM, Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org wrote: Yes, I think Siri has been dumbed down to look for pizza places, coffee shops, and a few other things that make money for businesses. I am obviously over stating this. She is obviously better than that and Sieghard is right that she will set alarms and do other useful things. But if I had to think of the only way to ask my wife what she wanted for dinner tonight, she may starve in the process. Somehow, Google is more of a personal assistant in this way in that it seems to understand more ways of asking a particular question than Siri. I use her for what she is good at, but Google and Cortana are rapidly taking her place. Neal From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2015 10:45 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: SIRI definitely requires improvements Hi everybody, This goes back to the thread about SIRI and the question Neil asked about the latitude of Maddison, Wisconsin. I just tried this and asked SIRI “What is the latitude of Maddison, Wisconsin”. Just as Neil reported, SIRI came back “I don’t understand what is the latitude of Wisconsin”. I then asked “What latitude is Vancouver, British Columbia”. Notice the slight difference in wording “What is the latitude of…” and “What latitude is…”. Anyhow, SIRI came back with the answer promptly and when I asked in the same way “What latitude is Maddison, Wisconsin” SIRI also answered right away. Then I asked using the original wording which didn’t work “What is the latitude of Vancouver, British Columbia”. SIRI answered “The only possibility I found is Latitude Restaurant, is that the one you are looking for?” Then SIRI beeped waiting for me to say “Yes” or “No:” as if I had asked it to look for restaurants with that name. I use SIRI a lot and often like how well it works especially for dictation. However, sometimes it’s ridiculous how it gets simple things wrong or can’t deliver an answer which Google Voice Search has no problems with. I also still find more complex dictation is difficult and I can’t believe there still is no way to just spell out a word I know SIRI will get wrong. I really hope Apple puts some major effort into making SIRI better. They introduced this idea of a personal assistant, but considering SIRI has been around for almost 4 years it has gone through amazingly few real upgrades and it can’t even tell you the battery status on your phone and I still can’t easily set a 2-part reminder like this: Set a reminder on August 6 at 10 AM SIRI will say “Tell me what you want to be reminded about”, I say: Dentist appointment at 11 AM. This used to be possible and to me it sounds natural, but if I say it this way SIRI sets a reminder “Dentist appointment” for August 6 at 11 AM, it completely ignores that I said “Dentist appointment at 10 AM” and just interprets it the way it wants. If, however, I say this: “Set a reminder on August 6 at 10 AM about my dentist appointment at 11 AM” it creates it correctly, the reminder time is set to August 6 at 10 AM and the reminder text says “My dentist appointment at 11 AM”. Apple made such a big deal of how you can talk naturally to SIRI, but while you can set an alarm by saying many different things, a lot of other commands have to be delivered just so or SIRI will get it wrong. Steve Jobbs old adage “It just works” definitely does not apply here. Regards, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com
Re: SIRI definitely requires improvements
I was listening to my talking book this morning, and I happened to look at the iPhone, and saw a message from Siri saying: I am not sure about that, but, deep down, I'm lonely! he must have been replying to something that he had heard on the book. Jewel From: Robin Frost Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 4:44 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: SIRI definitely requires improvements Hi, Along these same lines I recently asked Siri when the Breeders cup was this year and she replied “hmm horse racing I wish I knew more about that.” She knew it was a horse race but couldn’t figure when it’s to be held. Even when she annoys me she gives me a giggle. But I agree with you I wish they’d improve her too. Robin From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2015 11:45 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: SIRI definitely requires improvements Hi everybody, This goes back to the thread about SIRI and the question Neil asked about the latitude of Maddison, Wisconsin. I just tried this and asked SIRI “What is the latitude of Maddison, Wisconsin”. Just as Neil reported, SIRI came back “I don’t understand what is the latitude of Wisconsin”. I then asked “What latitude is Vancouver, British Columbia”. Notice the slight difference in wording “What is the latitude of…” and “What latitude is…”. Anyhow, SIRI came back with the answer promptly and when I asked in the same way “What latitude is Maddison, Wisconsin” SIRI also answered right away. Then I asked using the original wording which didn’t work “What is the latitude of Vancouver, British Columbia”. SIRI answered “The only possibility I found is Latitude Restaurant, is that the one you are looking for?” Then SIRI beeped waiting for me to say “Yes” or “No:” as if I had asked it to look for restaurants with that name. I use SIRI a lot and often like how well it works especially for dictation. However, sometimes it’s ridiculous how it gets simple things wrong or can’t deliver an answer which Google Voice Search has no problems with. I also still find more complex dictation is difficult and I can’t believe there still is no way to just spell out a word I know SIRI will get wrong. I really hope Apple puts some major effort into making SIRI better. They introduced this idea of a personal assistant, but considering SIRI has been around for almost 4 years it has gone through amazingly few real upgrades and it can’t even tell you the battery status on your phone and I still can’t easily set a 2-part reminder like this: Set a reminder on August 6 at 10 AM SIRI will say “Tell me what you want to be reminded about”, I say: Dentist appointment at 11 AM. This used to be possible and to me it sounds natural, but if I say it this way SIRI sets a reminder “Dentist appointment” for August 6 at 11 AM, it completely ignores that I said “Dentist appointment at 10 AM” and just interprets it the way it wants. If, however, I say this: “Set a reminder on August 6 at 10 AM about my dentist appointment at 11 AM” it creates it correctly, the reminder time is set to August 6 at 10 AM and the reminder text says “My dentist appointment at 11 AM”. Apple made such a big deal of how you can talk naturally to SIRI, but while you can set an alarm by saying many different things, a lot of other commands have to be delivered just so or SIRI will get it wrong. Steve Jobbs old adage “It just works” definitely does not apply here. Regards, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send
Re: SIRI definitely requires improvements
Hi, Along these same lines I recently asked Siri when the Breeders cup was this year and she replied “hmm horse racing I wish I knew more about that.” She knew it was a horse race but couldn’t figure when it’s to be held. Even when she annoys me she gives me a giggle. But I agree with you I wish they’d improve her too. Robin From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2015 11:45 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: SIRI definitely requires improvements Hi everybody, This goes back to the thread about SIRI and the question Neil asked about the latitude of Maddison, Wisconsin. I just tried this and asked SIRI “What is the latitude of Maddison, Wisconsin”. Just as Neil reported, SIRI came back “I don’t understand what is the latitude of Wisconsin”. I then asked “What latitude is Vancouver, British Columbia”. Notice the slight difference in wording “What is the latitude of…” and “What latitude is…”. Anyhow, SIRI came back with the answer promptly and when I asked in the same way “What latitude is Maddison, Wisconsin” SIRI also answered right away. Then I asked using the original wording which didn’t work “What is the latitude of Vancouver, British Columbia”. SIRI answered “The only possibility I found is Latitude Restaurant, is that the one you are looking for?” Then SIRI beeped waiting for me to say “Yes” or “No:” as if I had asked it to look for restaurants with that name. I use SIRI a lot and often like how well it works especially for dictation. However, sometimes it’s ridiculous how it gets simple things wrong or can’t deliver an answer which Google Voice Search has no problems with. I also still find more complex dictation is difficult and I can’t believe there still is no way to just spell out a word I know SIRI will get wrong. I really hope Apple puts some major effort into making SIRI better. They introduced this idea of a personal assistant, but considering SIRI has been around for almost 4 years it has gone through amazingly few real upgrades and it can’t even tell you the battery status on your phone and I still can’t easily set a 2-part reminder like this: Set a reminder on August 6 at 10 AM SIRI will say “Tell me what you want to be reminded about”, I say: Dentist appointment at 11 AM. This used to be possible and to me it sounds natural, but if I say it this way SIRI sets a reminder “Dentist appointment” for August 6 at 11 AM, it completely ignores that I said “Dentist appointment at 10 AM” and just interprets it the way it wants. If, however, I say this: “Set a reminder on August 6 at 10 AM about my dentist appointment at 11 AM” it creates it correctly, the reminder time is set to August 6 at 10 AM and the reminder text says “My dentist appointment at 11 AM”. Apple made such a big deal of how you can talk naturally to SIRI, but while you can set an alarm by saying many different things, a lot of other commands have to be delivered just so or SIRI will get it wrong. Steve Jobbs old adage “It just works” definitely does not apply here. Regards, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
