Re: [VoiceOps] 2015 Softswitch

2015-11-02 Thread Colton Conor
Peter, I am selling to small and medium sized business customer. We also have residential side for an ISP. Our average seat selling price today is between $25 to $35 per seat, so no I am not trying to sell on low price. However, I personally hate selling to the customer when I know what else is

Re: [VoiceOps] 2015 Softswitch

2015-11-02 Thread Peter Rad.
You didn't get my whole point. Customers want the same cheaper -- because that is how we trained them to think. That is how we "sell" in telecom. We take orders while driving the price to zero because (A) we don't value sales and marketing as a sector of the economy; and (B) this has

Re: [VoiceOps] 2015 Softswitch

2015-11-02 Thread Alex Balashov
‎Enswitch is licenced based on concurrent call path (in a commonsensical, humane usage). At a seat-to-call contention ratio of 8:1 to 10:1 commonly found in the business PBX world, it's hard to imagine how you could not make money, even if you charged the lowest of glorified POTS replacement

Re: [VoiceOps] 2015 Softswitch

2015-11-02 Thread Peter Rad.
Those are the 4. Hint: If you are going to buy BSFT, get it via Taqua: cliff.mai...@taqua.com On 11/2/2015 9:00 AM, Colton Conor wrote: So far based on recommendations I see Broadsoft, Metaswitch, NetSapiens, and Enswitch by Integrics as options. I am going to throw out 2600hz as a

Re: [VoiceOps] 2015 Softswitch

2015-11-02 Thread Colton Conor
Let me rephrase. After reading so much on why Freeswitch was developed in the first place, I consider Freeswitch to be a more powerful and better media engine than what Asterisk is. So its not that I object to opensource in general, I just think moving forward that if building a communications

Re: [VoiceOps] 2015 Softswitch

2015-11-02 Thread Peter Rad.
You said it all with these very words. On 11/2/2015 10:34 AM, Colton Conor wrote: However, I personally hate selling to the customer when I know what else is out there today. I hate explaining time and time again that we have to charge for every auto attendant, voicemail box, etc. We have

Re: [VoiceOps] 2015 Softswitch

2015-11-02 Thread Alex Balashov
On 11/02/2015 10:18 AM, Colton Conor wrote: Thanks for the wonderful information about Asterisk. I was unaware of this, so all good points! :-) The classic "why we dumped Asterisk to start Freeswitch" narrative was current in the mid-late 2000s, but not anymore. What are your throughs on

Re: [VoiceOps] 2015 Softswitch

2015-11-02 Thread Alex Balashov
On 11/02/2015 10:19 AM, Peter Rad. wrote: To support software you have to have revenue. Hence, per seat licensing or maintenance fees. BSFT may be expensive but it has proven to scale - over 1M trunks from XO and WIND and 10K seats added per month by an MSO. You pay for that. That said. You

Re: [VoiceOps] Need service provider to transfer numbers to.

2015-11-02 Thread Pete Mundy
Heya Bill Perhaps you've been inundated with better off-list suggestions, but having not seen any on-list traffic I thought I'd reply with a recommendation Have a look at 2talk.com. We use their New Zealand service (2talk.co.nz) and are pretty happy with it. They have a web interface for

Re: [VoiceOps] 2015 Softswitch

2015-11-02 Thread Simon Perreault
Le 2015-11-03 00:04, Colton Conor a écrit : > Let me rephrase. After reading so much on why Freeswitch was developed > in the first place, I consider Freeswitch to be a more powerful and > better media engine than what Asterisk is. So its not that I object to > opensource in general, I just think

Re: [VoiceOps] 2015 Softswitch

2015-11-02 Thread Alex Balashov
On 11/02/2015 09:00 AM, Colton Conor wrote: I don't like the tough of Asterisk being the core of the product. I'm sorry, but that's just ignorant. Do you object to Broadworks running on Linux and not AIX, too? I mean, I suppose I could understand your reluctance at using a glorified

Re: [VoiceOps] 2015 Softswitch

2015-11-02 Thread Alex Balashov
‎Ah, a Freeswitch religionist (don't worry, I prefer Freeswitch myself). Some things you should probably be aware of: - Architectural shifts in >= Asterisk 10 that have closed performance gaps with Freeswitch. - Asterisk's adoption of the PJSIP SIP stack & PJMEDIA. - New ARI (RESTful) API. I