Re: [VoiceOps] Future of the Traditional PSTN vs VOIP and VoLTE

2015-12-09 Thread Pete Eisengrein
Not us. Is this topic interesting enough to everyone to try and formalize and develop? (i.e. take it off the email list and do something more)? Maybe meet up at SIPNOC? (though that's 1/2 year away). We'd be happy to host something (say, a two-day meeting) here sooner, if there's interest. On

Re: [VoiceOps] Future of the Traditional PSTN vs VOIP and VoLTE

2015-12-09 Thread Mark R Lindsey
This is a slight topic change, but at SIPNOC for the last few years, FCC and FCC-connected people have come and talked about the plans for transitioning. My general sense is that the they're considering adding something like an IP address to the NPAC data structure. There's a new IETF working

Re: [VoiceOps] Future of the Traditional PSTN vs VOIP and VoLTE

2015-12-09 Thread Alex Balashov
I don't mean to be a Negative Nancy, but I am concerned that some of may not realise how many times this conversation has played out before, in various permutations. The PSTN is dead, long live the PSTN, etc. The enthusiastic proclamation of a forum/vehicle/working

Re: [VoiceOps] Future of the Traditional PSTN vs VOIP and VoLTE

2015-12-09 Thread mgraves
Sigh, yes I recall sitting at an event hosted by Jeff Pulver in NYC, back in 2009. "The future is here!" cried one and all, just not yet. OTOH, at least the very backward looking have largely stopped the plaintive bleating about "spectral efficiency" and bandwidth constraints. I for one

Re: [VoiceOps] Future of the Traditional PSTN vs VOIP and VoLTE

2015-12-09 Thread Alex Balashov
On 12/09/2015 01:16 PM, mgra...@mstvp.com wrote: There was a time where certain parties from a large wireless carrier were sounding the alarm about spectral waste, even as their very own marketing teams were extolling the virtues of watching television on your mobile phone. This sort of talking

Re: [VoiceOps] Future of the Traditional PSTN vs VOIP and VoLTE

2015-12-09 Thread mgraves
- Original Message - Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Future of the Traditional PSTN vs VOIP and VoLTE From: "Alex Balashov" Date: 12/9/15 12:10 pm To: mgra...@mstvp.com, voiceops@voiceops.org Cc: "Randy Resnick" On 12/09/2015 01:07 PM,

Re: [VoiceOps] Future of the Traditional PSTN vs VOIP and VoLTE

2015-12-09 Thread Peter Beckman
Argh. I've come up with three different ideas in this email, and deleted them all. 1. Carriers do not want to disclose which DIDs they service. A company's customers might not want an easy way for callers to find out that the number is associated with that business, or that the

Re: [VoiceOps] Future of the Traditional PSTN vs VOIP and VoLTE

2015-12-09 Thread Pete Eisengrein
I'd add a #7 to "what I believe we agree upon": 7. The current PSTN prevents and the new world order offers, or at least allows for, high def and video codecs, and other cool new things yet to be imagined. On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Peter Beckman wrote: > Argh. I've

Re: [VoiceOps] Future of the Traditional PSTN vs VOIP and VoLTE

2015-12-09 Thread David Knell
Peter - This instantly provides the ability to remove the cost of termination and > origination, and while adding to the number of relationships that are > required in order to reach all phone numbers, can move us toward > decentralization of the telephony world. > > Beckman > > PS Man that last