This is a slight topic change, but at SIPNOC for the last few years, FCC and 
FCC-connected people have come and talked about the plans for transitioning. My 
general sense is that the they're considering adding something like an IP 
address to the NPAC data structure.

There's a new IETF working group, "Modern":
> This list is for discussion of systems required to support the management 
> of telephone numbers after traditional telephone functions have migrated to 
> the Internet. In particular, this list considers Internet protocol 
> interfaces needed to register, provision and audit data related to 
> telephone numbers. It is expected that discussion will also involve ongoing 
> development of experimental systems to implement these functions.

A big thrust there is to develop Internet protocols to talk to all the 
old-school telecom systems that have kept us going through the 1980s-present. 

They're also talking a lot there about who "owns" telephone numbers.

Here are some good introductory  slides from the IETF meeting in March: 
        https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/92/slides/slides-92-modern-0.pdf




> On Dec 9, 2015, at 10:46 , Pete Eisengrein <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Not us.
> 
> Is this topic interesting enough to everyone to try and formalize and 
> develop? (i.e. take it off the email list and do something more)? Maybe meet 
> up at SIPNOC? (though that's 1/2 year away). We'd be happy to host something 
> (say, a two-day meeting) here sooner, if there's interest.
> 
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Erik Flournoy <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Can I get a count of how many folks have SPID? There is a process that some 
> major carriers that were once small used to do exactly what we are 
> describing. The routing issues happen all the time even if it's not a 
> reseller amongst CLECs, ILEC everyday even when NPAC says the number goes to 
> xyz the ILEC ultimately controls 75% of where the call goes on the tandem.
> 
> 
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 4:34 AM, Peter E <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Well, I think that's where Mark's Bitcoin-ish idea comes in. I'm sure he can 
> explain it better than I can.
> 
> On Dec 8, 2015, at 00:35, Peter Beckman <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
> Reseller C and the end user knows where the chain ends, but how do WE know
> that reseller C and end-user are honest?
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