What was the outcome?
On Tue, 9 Feb 2016, Darren Schreiber wrote:
W00t! Thanks guys :-) Fun mystery solved
From: Mary Lou Carey
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Our upstream CLEC ended up using the contacts here provided (thanks guys!) to
hunt the carrier down apparently. First, the carrier de-activated the number
but then everyone got a busy signal who called (only from within that ILEC of
course). Then the LRN was reprovisioned apparently, and all
Here's the website for the carrier. Found it through Local Calling
Guide..http://www.lafayettela.gov/Pages/Index.aspx
> On February 5, 2016 at 7:41 PM Darren Schreiber wrote:
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> Hi folks,
> We have an upstream CLEC who ported a number from us from a LEC I've
W00t! Thanks guys :-) Fun mystery solved
From: Mary Lou Carey
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Date: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 9:05 AM
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How do cellular carriers perform almost instant porting of number, and why
can't landline providers do the same? For example if I take my Sprint cell
phone to an AT store, and switch over to AT they can do this almost
instantly.
I met someone one time at a tradeshow claiming they could do same
Our landline ports are instantaneous. (Or so we think.) It’s always been that
way for us. I didn’t know there was any other way.
Adam
From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-boun...@voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Colton Conor
Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 2:52 PM
To: voiceops@voiceops.org
This does raise, in light of the OP, the question of what economic or
political incentive wireless carriers have to cooperate in relatively
seamless porting to/from each other.
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Alex Balashov | Principal | Evariste Systems LLC
303 Perimeter Center North, Suite 300
Atlanta, GA 30346
United
If both carriers have a good business relationship and are willing to
write matching orders in the NPAC (winning carrier makes the
subscriptions, the losing carrier submits concurrence) you can port
numbers in literally seconds.
But we're not required to do things that fast so it rarely
Yeah, they are talking about wireless ports, where between carriers, you can
achieve same-day FOC within minutes of the end-user requesting a port-out. So,
from the very very beginning to the very very end, it is measured in minutes
instead of days.
-- Nathan
Wow. Try porting a large customer from AT oh, that's not a simple port,
that's a project. And, one number isn't in our database, so we can't do it.
Or, the physical location doesn't match, so we can't do it.
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From: "Adam Vocks"
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+1 I want to know!
I'm betting it is the fact that Wireless Carriers were forced by the FCC to
interconnect in order to do this, and that in most cases, ILECs and CLECs
are not nearly so sophisticated, and therefore the process is wholely
manual.
Which means you have to wait for Susan to come
Forget I said anything. You guys are talking about something different.
I was referring to when our tech goes out to install our phone service,
the LOA/FOC process is already complete and we just make a change to
NPAC and calls start flowing in.
Adam
From: VoiceOps
One would think that the incentives would diverge depending on whether
the given wireless operator expects to be a net beneficiary of porting
in or a net loser to porting out -- a function of their market position,
which is not equal.
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Alex Balashov | Principal | Evariste Systems LLC
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Original message
From: Alexander Lopez
Date: 2/9/2016 6:07 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Alexander Lopez
Subject: RE: [VoiceOps] Instant Porting
Market positions change, and one year your on top in a given market, and then
the next year your
I think the incentive is to cooperate because it is a relatively small group of
wireless carriers compared to wireline.
The main reason being that they don't want their ports held up, so they work
well with others.
Also since there is a small group they could automate the back office processes
A lot of it goes into literally 4 companies working together to have
automation. I don't know that process would scale if it was hundreds of
companies trying to accomplish the same thing without a clearinghouse in the
middle and everyone talking the same language.
Carlos Alcantar
Race
A lot of it also comes down to cellular portability being required by the FCC
to process ports in 4 hours or less from the day it was started as well. The
FCC saw how wireline worked and said they weren't going to have that on
wireless. Shortly after they cleaned up wireline (it used to be much
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