Re: [VoiceOps] VoIP Providers and direct NANP access

2017-03-09 Thread Nathan Anderson
?That only shows TX ratecenters... What was the HI TN so's I can LRN lookup it? :) (off-list is fine) -- Nathan From: Erik Flournoy Sent: Thursday, March 9, 2017 11:31 PM To: Nathan Anderson Cc: Carlos Alvarez; voiceops@voiceops.org Subject:

Re: [VoiceOps] VoIP Providers and direct NANP access

2017-03-09 Thread Erik Flournoy
The power of the global helpdesk better know as google: https://www.telcodata.us/search-area-code-exchange-by-ocn?ocn=683G I ported a TN to them in HAWAII how much more remote do you need to be... :-D Erik On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 9:23 PM, Nathan Anderson wrote: > ​What the

Re: [VoiceOps] VoIP Providers and direct NANP access

2017-03-09 Thread Nathan Anderson
?What the what? I've ported TF numbers to Flowroute (as they're a RespOrg), which isn't surprising or new. But any local numbers that I have ported to Flowroute have always come up as Level3, or Onvoy, or whatever. Perhaps they are only in a limited number of states at this point. I

Re: [VoiceOps] Past due/overdue invoices for Doctor offices - How to handle?

2017-03-09 Thread Alex Balashov
On Thu, Mar 09, 2017 at 05:33:08PM -0700, Carlos Alvarez wrote: > Our lawyer said that fighting an indemnification battle is much harder > than "they violated our contract therefore we're not liable." That's what I figured, and you gave me the confirmation I was after. > We fired them, by the

Re: [VoiceOps] Past due/overdue invoices for Doctor offices - How to handle?

2017-03-09 Thread Carlos Alvarez
I guess the reverse of the question would be...why? We've never been approached by a real prospect who wanted to use it in such cases, nor has anyone ever complained about this wording. We took that language idea from the many similar software license agreements, like the ones saying you can't

Re: [VoiceOps] VoIP Providers and direct NANP access

2017-03-09 Thread Carlos Alvarez
It's as real as fax is dead. On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 5:18 PM, Alex Balashov wrote: > On Thu, Mar 09, 2017 at 01:27:16PM -0800, Calvin Ellison wrote: > > > It's real and it's already happening. > > I've been told this for two or three years now. I'll believe it when I

Re: [VoiceOps] VoIP Providers and direct NANP access

2017-03-09 Thread Pete Eisengrein
Thanks Calvin. Great info. On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Calvin Ellison wrote: > Take a look here: > https://www.nationalnanpa.com/tools/trainGuides/getting- > started-for-interconnected-voip-providers.pdf > >1. FCC waiver >2. File notice with States >3.

Re: [VoiceOps] VoIP Providers and direct NANP access

2017-03-09 Thread Calvin Ellison
Take a look here: https://www.nationalnanpa.com/tools/trainGuides/getting-started-for-interconnected-voip-providers.pdf 1. FCC waiver 2. File notice with States 3. OCN for IP-Enabled Services 4. Interconnect agreement with a CLEC or LEC capable of providing the IP handoff 5. POI

Re: [VoiceOps] VoIP Providers and direct NANP access

2017-03-09 Thread Alex Balashov
It remains on the list of dreams deferred, aspirations unrealised, goals unaccomplished, and ambitions foreclosed. On Thu, Mar 09, 2017 at 04:04:17PM -0500, Pete Eisengrein wrote: > Hello VoiceOp'rs > > > In 2015 the FCC released an order which allows non-CLEC VoIP providers to > get numbers

[VoiceOps] VoIP Providers and direct NANP access

2017-03-09 Thread Pete Eisengrein
Hello VoiceOp'rs In 2015 the FCC released an order which allows non-CLEC VoIP providers to get numbers directly from the NANP: https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-releases-voip-direct-access-numbering-report-and-order This document describes in great detail, well, not much; it doesn’t really

Re: [VoiceOps] Past due/overdue invoices for Doctor offices - How to handle?

2017-03-09 Thread Carlos Alvarez
Ah, gotcha, I was thinking inbound calling. But yeah, as someone else said, cell phones are around. We've seen so few 911 calls on our network that I assume people always just call it from their cell phones anyway. Except for one manufacturing customer who seems to have a 911 call at least

Re: [VoiceOps] Past due/overdue invoices for Doctor offices - How to handle?

2017-03-09 Thread jungle Boogie
On 9 March 2017 at 11:23, Carlos Alvarez wrote: > Doctor's offices are not considered emergency medical facilities, and in > fact, 100% of our doctor/medical offices include "if this is an emergency > dial 911" at the beginning of their greetings. Well this is more of the

Re: [VoiceOps] Past due/overdue invoices for Doctor offices - How to handle?

2017-03-09 Thread Paul Timmins
I'd imagine Doc has a cellphone if s*it hits the fan. If not, he surely has a visa card that he could give you. And yes, we warm line customers who don't pay for a day or so first, they can call repair and 911 and that's it. Then that goes dark too. On 03/09/2017 02:23 PM, Carlos Alvarez

Re: [VoiceOps] Past due/overdue invoices for Doctor offices - How to handle?

2017-03-09 Thread Carlos Alvarez
I'm not sure why you'd treat them any differently from any other customer? Your service agreement should include clear info on when accounts will be disconnected, and presumably the customer signed it. Doctor's offices are not considered emergency medical facilities, and in fact, 100% of our

[VoiceOps] Past due/overdue invoices for Doctor offices - How to handle?

2017-03-09 Thread jungle Boogie
Hi All, What's the general rule/experience when dealing with Doctor offices that have unpaid invoices on postpaid telephone service plans? This may vary largely in different regions/states, but can a VoIP provider threaten to disconnect telephone service for unpaid invoices? If a Doctor office