Re: [VoiceOps] Automatic 911 location updates

2018-10-26 Thread Carlos Alvarez
Now there's an idea that is both easy to implement, and should be reliable. Of course, for home routers then you'd have no 911 location though. But at least at a company level they'd auto-provision. On the other hand we can do that one by IP too. On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 5:45 AM Matthew

Re: [VoiceOps] Automatic 911 location updates

2018-10-26 Thread Matthew Crocker
Location information should be pushed to the phone via DHCP. The DHCP server can get option82 information from the PoE switch port. The phone should then include the information in an INVITE for emergency calls based on its dial plan. The carrier can pass the information through to the NG911

Re: [VoiceOps] Automatic 911 location updates

2018-10-26 Thread Carlos Alvarez
That’s A-GPS using WiFi and related location databases. A raw, basic, $40 gps module attached to an arduino gets nothing useful in the middle of my standard wood and stucco house. -- Sent from my iPad > On Oct 25, 2018, at 10:48 PM, Aaron C. de Bruyn wrote: > > Depends on the

Re: [VoiceOps] Automatic 911 location updates

2018-10-26 Thread Nicholas Sten
I don't think anyone wants to implement a YMMV solution especially in a situation with such liability. > On Oct 26, 2018, at 1:48 AM, Aaron C. de Bruyn via VoiceOps > wrote: > > Depends on the construction. > I usually get a good GPS fix on my cell phone indoors. > > Then again, I don't

Re: [VoiceOps] Automatic 911 location updates

2018-10-26 Thread Nicholas Sten
GPS doesn't function particularly well indoors for a variety of technical reasons. > On Oct 26, 2018, at 1:07 AM, Aaron C. de Bruyn via VoiceOps > wrote: > > I've always wondered why VoIP phones don't have a cheap GPS chip in them. > > Sure, it could raise all sorts of problems from a

Re: [VoiceOps] Automatic 911 location updates

2018-10-25 Thread Aaron C. de Bruyn via VoiceOps
Depends on the construction. I usually get a good GPS fix on my cell phone indoors. Then again, I don't work in the 4th sub-basement of a skyscraper. ;) -A On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 10:36 PM Carlos Alvarez wrote: > > They don’t work indoors. > > > -- > Sent from my iPad > > > On Oct 25, 2018, at

Re: [VoiceOps] Automatic 911 location updates

2018-10-25 Thread Carlos Alvarez
They don’t work indoors. -- Sent from my iPad > On Oct 25, 2018, at 10:07 PM, Aaron C. de Bruyn via VoiceOps > wrote: > > I've always wondered why VoIP phones don't have a cheap GPS chip in them. > > Sure, it could raise all sorts of problems from a spoofing > perspective, but for valid

Re: [VoiceOps] Automatic 911 location updates

2018-10-25 Thread Aaron C. de Bruyn via VoiceOps
I've always wondered why VoIP phones don't have a cheap GPS chip in them. Sure, it could raise all sorts of problems from a spoofing perspective, but for valid 911 calls it could come in handy... -A On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 4:41 PM Ryan Delgrosso wrote: > > Automatic, nope. Psuedo-auto im

Re: [VoiceOps] Automatic 911 location updates

2018-10-23 Thread Ryan Delgrosso
Automatic, nope. Psuedo-auto im looking at it now. West supports sending custom headers to indicate a phones location inside a building to provide additional routing info but nothing using geo-location. You could leverage this to have phones send custom headers based on network location.

Re: [VoiceOps] Automatic 911 location updates

2018-10-23 Thread Fred Posner
On 10/23/18 7:36 PM, Andrew Haninger wrote: (This time to the group. Sorry for the dupe, Carlos.) On Tue, Oct 23, 2018, 19:22 Carlos Alvarez > wrote: Is anyone doing this yet?  The ability to detect the location of a phone and automatically update the 911

Re: [VoiceOps] Automatic 911 location updates

2018-10-23 Thread Andrew Haninger
(This time to the group. Sorry for the dupe, Carlos.) On Tue, Oct 23, 2018, 19:22 Carlos Alvarez wrote: > Is anyone doing this yet? The ability to detect the location of a phone > and automatically update the 911 address? Yes, I realize it's a difficult > if not impossible thing, yet thought

[VoiceOps] Automatic 911 location updates

2018-10-23 Thread Carlos Alvarez
Is anyone doing this yet? The ability to detect the location of a phone and automatically update the 911 address? Yes, I realize it's a difficult if not impossible thing, yet thought I'd ask since a customer asked me. ___ VoiceOps mailing list