Re: Manufacturing going to China..off topic

2004-12-01 Thread Terry Blanton
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2004-11/29/content_395728.htm The world's largest retailer, Wal-Mart Stores Inc, says its inventory of stock produced in China is expected to hit US$18 billion this year, keeping the annual growth rate of over 20 per cent consistent over two years.

Keefe's engine

2004-12-01 Thread Jones Beene
Speaking of magneto-caloric and/or electro-kinetic effects... which well-known effects are suggested as amenable to being translated into something completely different And the lack of success in getting others others to appreciate the precise focus of the issues ...;-) This poor

Re: Parametric capacitance

2004-12-01 Thread Jones Beene
Hey Nick, Nice experiment. One wonders why you did not try to get the spacing down to a very minimum, since the ouptut is directly related? Couldn't the contacts be rearranged somehow such as on the circumference to get below the 3mm? Jones

DoE decision will be posted today

2004-12-01 Thread Jed Rothwell
Dave Nagel wrote to me: I am told that the results of the review will be posted on a DoE web site this afternoon. I will let you know, when I know more. - Jed

Re: DoE decision will be posted today

2004-12-01 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton wrote: No hint as to the results, eh? I would not want to hazard a guess, but Dave Nagel is confident the decision will be positive. He is the closest CF person to the review, so he should know. Here's an interesting DOE press release (Nov. 30): . . . This achievement

Re: DoE decision will be posted today

2004-12-01 Thread Terry Blanton
Jed Rothwell wrote: I would not want to hazard a guess, but Dave Nagel is confident the decision will be positive. He is the closest CF person to the review, so he should know. I hope this is true. I'm preparing a mass-emailing for http://bertc.com/three_crows.htm ;-)

Astounding statement in upcoming paper by Cirillo and Iorio

2004-12-01 Thread Jed Rothwell
Here is an ICCF11 paper describing an Ohomori-Mizuno replication: Cirillo, D. and V. Iorio. Transmutation of metal at low energy in a confined plasma in water. in Eleventh International Conference on Condensed Matter Nuclear Science. 2004. Marseille, France. Quote: Once a stable plasma has been

Re: Astounding statement in upcoming paper by Cirillo and Iorio

2004-12-01 Thread Jed Rothwell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This paper is already posted in my web site since Nov 6, 2004 at : http://jlnlabs.imars.com/cfr/files/Electroplasma-eng.pdf see also the full slides at : http://jlnlabs.imars.com/cfr/lorio/index.htm I suggest you replace it with the version I will upload, which has

RE: Parametric capacitance

2004-12-01 Thread Keith Nagel
Hi Nick Jones. This is a field mill. http://www.precisionstrobe.com/jc/fieldmill/fieldmill.html It should look familiar. A parametric oscillator would involve an inductor in the circuit to resonate it at a multiple of the chopping frequency. What was the total change in capacitance of your

Re: Astounding statement in upcoming paper by Cirillo and Iorio

2004-12-01 Thread JNaudin509
Dans un e-mail daté du 01/12/2004 18:48:18 Paris, Madrid, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : I suggest you replace it with the version I will upload, which has been edited by Ed Storms and by me. We have improved the English.- Jed Ok Jed,I shall soon replacethe "english-italian" version

DoE recommendations are posted

2004-12-01 Thread Jed Rothwell
Nothing to get excited about. See: http://www.science.doe.gov/Sub/Newsroom/News_Releases/DOE-SC/2004/low_energy/ http://www.science.doe.gov/Sub/Newsroom/News_Releases/DOE-SC/2004/low_energy/CF_Final_120104.pdf Quotes with footnotes: Charge Element 3: Determine whether there is a scientific case

oomments on DOE report

2004-12-01 Thread Edmund Storms
To all, Now the wait is over and we are provided with an evaluation of the DOE, but not an evaluation of LENR. A cross section of experts used by the DOE to evaluate all proposals submitted to this agency have demonstrated for the world to see a profound lack of imagination and an indifference

Cirillo paper uploaded

2004-12-01 Thread Jed Rothwell
The Cirillo paper I mentioned earlier is now uploaded. See: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/CirilloDtransmutat.pdf - Jed

LENR-CANR official statement about DoE review

2004-12-01 Thread Jed Rothwell
[From our News section] DoE publishes review of cold fusionThe Department of Energy, Office of Science, has completed its review of cold fusion and published a report online. See: Report of the Review of Low Energy Nuclear Reactions. See

RE: DoE recommendations are posted

2004-12-01 Thread Akira Kawasaki
Dec. 01, 2004 Vortex, Perhaps we could invoke The Freedom of information Act to see what the various selected reviewers wrote in their overviews of the state of CF results fifteen years after 1989. Their identities could be kept confidential. And it is not a top National Security issue. -ak-

RE: DoE recommendations are posted

2004-12-01 Thread Jed Rothwell
Akira Kawasaki wrote: Perhaps we could invoke The Freedom of information Act to see what the various selected reviewers wrote in their overviews of the state of CF results fifteen years after 1989. Their identities could be kept confidential. And it is not a top National Security issue. Bad idea!

RE: DoE recommendations are posted

2004-12-01 Thread Keith Nagel
Hey Jed. You write: Bad idea! Robert Park is probably frantically doing the same thing right now, to find the turncoat who is convinced CF is real. Whoever it is is already in enough trouble. Let's not make it any worse. Good point. Given the current political climate, the outcome was the best

Re: DoE recommendations are posted

2004-12-01 Thread Terry Blanton
Keith Nagel wrote: Given the current political climate, the outcome was the best that could be expected. Are youse guys kiddin'? This is nothing short of phenomenal. "A similar line of investigation involved counting deuterium loaded foils to observe the products for the standard

Re: DoE recommendations are posted

2004-12-01 Thread Jeff and Dorothy Kooistra
Terry said: Are youse guys kiddin'? This is nothing short of phenomenal. I agree. In scientist speak, this is a recognition that there is, in fact, something, rather than nothing. The slogging ahead will be difficult, but, properly quoted, this NEW report does provide the needed

Re: DoE recommendations are posted

2004-12-01 Thread Mike Carrell
Terry Blanton wrote: Keith Nagel wrote: Given the current political climate, the outcome was the best that could be expected. Are youse guys kiddin'? This is nothing short of phenomenal. A similar line of investigation involved counting deuterium loaded foils to observe the products for the

Re: oomments on DOE report

2004-12-01 Thread FZNIDARSIC
In a message dated 12/1/2004 3:21:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm not sure which is worse, the use of people having such a lack of imagination to evaluate proposals or the missed opportunity to develop a new scientific discovery. It would seem that incompetence has

Re: Astounding statement in upcoming paper by Cirillo and Iorio

2004-12-01 Thread Mike Carrell
Jed wrote: Here is an ICCF11 paper describing an Ohomori-Mizuno replication: Cirillo, D. and V. Iorio. Transmutation of metal at low energy in a confined plasma in water. in Eleventh International Conference on Condensed Matter Nuclear Science. 2004. Marseille, France. Quote: Once a stable

Re: Astounding statement in upcoming paper by Cirillo and Iorio

2004-12-01 Thread Harry Veeder
Are they saying the energy required to evaporate the water solution over a certain period time exceeds the electrical input energy over the same period time + the all the energy consumed by all the other processes in the same period of time? Harry on 12/1/04 9:02 PM, Mike Carrell at [EMAIL

Re: Astounding statement in upcoming paper by Cirillo and Iorio

2004-12-01 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Mike Carrell's message of Wed, 01 Dec 2004 21:02:45 -0500: Hi, [snip] Many on vortex studiously ignore the work of Mills and BlackLight Power, or try to demonstrated that Mills' results are really LENR and vice versa. I have maintained that they should be studies separately, although

Does DOE have a temperature?

2004-12-01 Thread Harry Veeder
The fact that the DOE panel once again diminishes the value of all the thermal observations and measurements is perplexing. Harry The DOE review concludes: While significant progress has been made in the sophistication of calorimeters since the review of this subject in 1989, the conclusions