Re: Harvesting the Sun... on the cheap

2005-02-09 Thread Grimer
Very interesting Jones. 8-) As far as the 2nd Law is concerned it's always struck me that to show it's wrong is a no-brainer. All one needs is a chess board and a concept of scale. In the classic case of the steam engine where disorder on the micro-scale is increased, people totally forget

Suppressed science web site

2005-02-09 Thread Jed Rothwell
See: http://www.suppressedscience.net/ http://www.suppressedscience.net/physics.html

noovoodoo economics

2005-02-09 Thread Jones Beene
Somewhere amidst the cognitive dissonance of world events, the recent announcement by OPEC that they intended to force oil to stabilize at $50, and NOT a whimper of protest from the USA was kind of missed by many pundits, in all the ferment of world events. Not that many months ago, we had

Re: noovoodoo economics

2005-02-09 Thread Jones Beene
--- Rick Monteverde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jones - There was an article a year or so ago in Pop-Sci-Mech whatever showing how we could in fact defeat California rather quickly if we had to, complete with great graphics of missle launches, satellites, etc. I'm not afraid of

[OFF TOPIC] Time to start Filtering again

2005-02-09 Thread Don Wiegel
I noticed that: Frederick Sparber signed his last Reply as: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Signing off the list. Frederick - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Vortex is the greatest news list on the internet for stimulating conversations. Personally .. I enjoy most all of the subjects

Re: [OFF TOPIC] Time to start Filtering again

2005-02-09 Thread Horace Heffner
At 1:13 PM 2/9/5, Don Wiegel wrote: I noticed that: Frederick Sparber signed his last Reply as: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Signing off the list. Frederick - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Vortex is the greatest news list on the internet for stimulating conversations. Personally .. I

charging for energy consumption.

2005-02-09 Thread Harry Veeder
While modern physics represents all forms of energy as equivalent through the conservation laws, is every form of energy consumption morally equal? .e.g. Some types of energy consumption keep people from freezing. Is this use of energy morally equivalent to the energy used to operate a shopping

Cluster Chemistry

2005-02-09 Thread Terry Blanton
http://www.science.psu.edu/alert/Castleman1-2005.htm Clusters of Aluminum Atoms Found to Have Properties of Other Elements Reveal a New Form of Chemistry 13 January 2005—A research team has discovered clusters of aluminum atoms that have chemical properties similar to single atoms of metallic and

[OT] Noovoodoo economics and portmanteau words

2005-02-09 Thread Jones Beene
--- RC Macaulay wrote: http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/HUD403A.html I almost wish you hadn't sent that reference, Richard, as it really makes me realize how far we have strayed in the never-ending battle of greed vs. fair government (not to mention wanting to puke at those who think the

Re: solving really big problems

2005-02-09 Thread RC Macaulay
Revtec, interesting questions, more to ponder than to reply. It depends on whether one believes in God ..or .. whether one believes God. Richard Blank Bkgrd.gif

Re: SOLVING REALLY BIG PROBLEMS

2005-02-09 Thread revtec
- Original Message - From: Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: Bob Flower [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Andy Becan [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 7:57 PM Subject: Re: SOLVING REALLY BIG PROBLEMS --- revtec wrote: Perhaps the

Re: Cluster Chemistry

2005-02-09 Thread Grimer
At 03:01 pm 09-02-05 -0900, you wrote: At 1:25 PM 2/9/5, Terry Blanton wrote: http://www.science.psu.edu/alert/Castleman1-2005.htm Clusters of Aluminum Atoms Found to Have Properties of Other Elements Reveal a New Form of Chemistry 13 January 2005’ÄîA research team has discovered clusters of

Re: SOLVING REALLY BIG PROBLEMS

2005-02-09 Thread Steven Krivit
At 08:21 PM 2/9/2005 -0500, you wrote: Jeff writes: What is our collective goal regarding the commercialization of CF? Is it to reduce the level of CO2 emissions to reverse global warming? I think Bockris put it most succinctly: It is the basis of a way to continue our Civilization. I've