A couple of months ago, Baronvolsung suggested we might have
wind turbines high in the sky, up in the jet stream. I pooh-poohed the
idea, but it turns out I wasn't thinking hard enough. It could not be
done with balloons, as he suggested, but kites are another matter.
See:
RC Macaulay wrote:
Where are the atheists and where
are their good works? You are the one that needs the challenge presented
to yourself.
The atheists have brought our nation WHAT?
That is TOO easy. Altogether too easy and irresistible. As I pointed out
before, ~70% of scientists are atheists.
Absolutely true! Admittedly, some of my first experiences were "inside the teepee" so to speak with a combination of organic mescaline and codeine. I could not name it until relatively recently when I began to study gnosticism.
You are lucky that the HRCC does not wield the military power they
I will drop the silly, tit-for-tat discussion in which
people assert that atheists have contributed nothing to society, but John
Robertson has made some interesting, thoughtful comments that deserve a
response. He wrote:
You equate religion with
superstition, right? . . .
There may be a
Ladies and gentlemen...
In this corner we have [name deleted to protect the innocent] the world
champion fighter for defining Bog in a Box. He thanks Bog every day that his
soul is protected because he is inside the box. He wants everyone to know he is
saved and wishes others can be saved like
Hey John,
I am loathe to get distracted from my attempt at generating
some actual religious experience amongst the self styled
religious zealots on this list, but one of your points really
deserves a reply.
You write:
Certain modal laws of human behavior are just as real and significant
as the
Jed Rothwell wrote:
There is a huge difference. Science works, and the pre-modern systems
failed, or they barely worked. Look at the outcomes. Ten thousand
years governed by superstition and religion brought us from caves to
medieval cities. That was quite an accomplishment. But in a mere 400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Forget about the strange looking floating creature hovering next to the cliff that seems to be defying the laws of gravity, the one you can't catch nor eat. Focus on that hungry looking Saber-tooth tiger crouched on top of the cliff. Yeah, THAT ONE! The one that seems to
heres teh deal. first thing it does, is, if a judge says, the bible
rules me, and becuase of the bible, i say two men farking is wrong,
take those fags out of my court and stone them till dead
guess what. they would have NO recourse whatsoever.
part two, only interpret based on the
Hey Stephen,
Uh oh, time for a Hymn,
Onward Christian soldiers,
Onward Buddhist priests,
Onwards, fruits of Islam,
Fight 'till you're deceased.
Fight your little battles,
Join in thickest fray,
for the greater glory,
of Dis-cord-ia,
Fnord.
-Original
Hugh Grant might dispute that. :-Þ
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/grantmug1.htmlKeith Nagel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I want to try to get you people to have a direct experienceof the divine, which has nothing at all to do with how you use ( or misuse )your penis.
Do you Yahoo!?
Better
Praise Bob and pass the slack!Keith Nagel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey Stephen,Uh oh, time for a Hymn,Onward Christian soldiers,Onward Buddhist priests,Onwards, fruits of Islam,Fight 'till you're deceased.Fight your little battles,Join in thickest fray,for the greater glory,of
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
I disagree with the implicit
assertion here that the progress made from year -10,000 to year +1600 was
made by religion or superstition, and that progress since then was made
with a different scheme.
I did not mean that. Let me clarify: progress was made despite
I wrote:
Pendulum clocks with the
statements reached an soon after they were
invented.
I meant pendulum clocks with escapements. Voice input error. I should
have said, clocks with escapements and then later pendulum clocks. The
escapement came first. It was one of the great medieval
From: Stephen A. Lawrence
...
Of course.
Do not see the fnord. If you see the fnord, the fnord
will eat you. You must not see the fnord.
Makes you wonder -- are there fnords in the information
we find on the Internet, too, or are they restricted to
physical media? I can't see them
A restrained British WOW!! This flying windmill
concept looks really exciting. I'd heard speculation about kites in the jet
stream before but there were always problems with the weight of the tether/power
line. I particularly like that it can fly up to altitude under controland
back down
I wrote:
If you could spend two or three
years in a Japanese biology laboratory today, and then magically
transport yourself back to 1868 in Japan when science as we know it did
not exist, you would then see ENORMOUS differences between what Ed Storms
does and what people did before. For one
From: Nick Palmer
A restrained British WOW!! This flying windmill concept
looks really exciting. I'd heard speculation about kites
in the jet stream before but there were always problems
with the weight of the tether/power line. I particularly
like that it can fly up to altitude under
well, how big are we talking for the kites? if not too big, you could
always move them during seasonal changes, also. have a few farms with
tethers, move the actual units to the better area. just a thought.
(and, if we ever got a beanstalk off the ground, we could fly a few off it.)
On Apr 7,
leaking pen wrote:
well, how big are we talking for the kites? if not too big, you could
always move them during seasonal changes, also.
I do not know how big they are, but I am sure they are light or they would
not fly up in the air in the first place. All aircraft are made of
lightweight
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
I disagree with the implicit assertion here that the progress made
from year -10,000 to year +1600 was made by religion or superstition,
and that progress since then was made with a different scheme.
I did not mean that. Let me clarify: progress was made despite
John Robertson wrote:
It wasn't completely
one-sided. As I noted earlier Christianity and other moral philosophies
made many vital contributions to the burgeoning scientific method, such
as individualism.Good grief. It was their submission to the
greater good -- namely the discovery of truth --
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd love to know what other Vort experts would have
to say about this proposal.
I'm no expert; but, there are some really exotic
proposals:
http://alt-e.blogspot.com/2004/12/wind-power-laddermills-high-altitude.html
Would you like insurance? (WGUMCD)
the article is off. those that we OWN are up from a dozen four years
ago to several hundred. there is one in afghanistan, and 6 in iraq at
last count, becuase teh training program was scrapped for them by
cheney 3 years back.
On Apr 7, 2005 2:55 PM, Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- John Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dang! I was going to stop talking.
You *could* reconsider.
Look what great good
the Catholic Church
did for our intellectual history and our science.
I gather 'byu' is 'Brigham Young University', n'est-ce
pas?
The HRCC is likely the reason
--- John Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As a
linguist,
A cunning one at that. (Sorry, I couldn't resist
after all this talk about sex. fanning self)
http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=%22cunning+linguist%22btnG=Google+Search
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Do You
John,
You can't win... if you've truly lurked here as long as you say you have
then you should know this by now. Jed has to send the last message to every
thread... 8^)
-j
-Original Message-
From: John Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 3:34 PM
To:
--- John Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dang! I was going to stop talking.
You *could* reconsider.
Thanks, Terry. You're absolutely right. I have reconsidered, and have
decided to unsubscribe. I have enjoyed Vortex, but I can live without
it, as you no doubt can without me. Sorry to have
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