[VO]: Balance vs. Bias

2006-06-29 Thread RC Macaulay
Howdy Vorts, The herd mentality requires everyone hold the same view regardless. Vorts are a strange mix that seem to believe there should be at least three biased views plusa correct balanced view..theirs!! The joy of Vorts is the ability of it's members to "cut each other some slack"

Re: [Vo]: Excess hydrogen without much excess heat

2006-06-29 Thread Michel Jullian
Jed wrote: At this point I also need to ask, how much energy does the evolution of the excess hydrogen actually account for? As a percentage of the total energy in, do you happen to know if it's typically on the order of 1%? 10%? 50%? 8000% for brief periods. (80 times input.) For one

Re: [Vo]: Excess hydrogen without much excess heat

2006-06-29 Thread Jed Rothwell
Michel Jullian wrote: No Jed, energy efficiency and current (faradaic) efficiency are different things. Yup. I mixed them up. Walter Faxon wrote: Just for the record, as well as detecting excess hydrogen is Mizuno also detecting a corresponding amount of excess oxygen? As far as I know

[Vo]: Re: Excess hydrogen without much excess heat

2006-06-29 Thread Jones Beene
- Original Message - From: Jed Rothwell Michel Jullian wrote: No Jed, energy efficiency and current (faradaic) efficiency are different things. Yup. I mixed them up. And 3 times overfaradaicity for one overall run means that only 3*0.5%=1.5% of input energy is going into

Re: [Vo]: Re: Excess hydrogen without much excess heat

2006-06-29 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: JR As far as I know he does. He has not described the O2 in detail. It is not stochiometric; there is extra H2 because the O2 from electrolysis at the anode is separated out by the inverted funnel. If it is not stochiometric then we can conclude that peroxides are being

[Vo]: Re: Excess hydrogen without much excess heat

2006-06-29 Thread Michel Jullian
No sorry Jones, my analysis is correct I am afraid, and COP is only 1.3 at best, not 2 or 3, cf Mizuno's conclusion in http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MizunoTgenerationa.pdf -- 5. Conclusions We have reached several conclusions: 1. Current efficiency for the plasma electrolysis reaches

[Vo]: Re: Excess hydrogen without much excess heat

2006-06-29 Thread Jones Beene
- Original Message - From: Jed Rothwell No, I mean it is not stochiometric because the oxygen from the anode is diverted out of the cell via another tube. During ordinary electrolysis, only hydrogen is captured. During pyrolysis a mixture of hydrogen and oxygen evolves from the

[Vo]: Re: Excess hydrogen without much excess heat

2006-06-29 Thread Jones Beene
Michel, This is most inconvenient, as I still do not get the email from you via vortex, so I am having to go back and forth to the archive site, in order to see your posts. Thankfully we have cut-and-paste. In another paper on the lenr site, perhaps a bit more clearly stated:

[Vo]: Re: Balance vs. Bias

2006-06-29 Thread Mike Carrell
Blank - Original Message - From: RC Macaulay Subject: [VO]: Balance vs. Bias MC: Richard wrote, snip. Carefully read the science comments contained in the link http://msnbc.msn.com/id/13559838/ which describes how weather causes the earth to wobble.The article is written as a absolute

[Vo]: Re: Methane as fuel, recycling CO2?

2006-06-29 Thread Kyle R. Mcallister
- Original Message - From: Kyle R. Mcallister [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 6:47 PM Subject: [Vo]: Methane as fuel, recycling CO2? Not a single reply. This seems common with anything I post. --Kyle

[Vo]: Bell, Bang and Entangle

2006-06-29 Thread hohlrauml6d
Gnorts, Vorts! Let us suppose that my guess is wrong and permanent magnets are not ZPE pumps. Of course, it is undisputed that the primary source of the PM field is electron spin with secondary and tertiary contributions from orbital rotation and nuclear spin. Shall we explore another

[Vo]: Re: Bell, Bang and Entangle

2006-06-29 Thread hohlrauml6d
A recent Bell-based attack on SR:    http://arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/9906036  BTW, Brian Greene's book has replaced Alice and Bob with Scully and Mulder, as in the referenced paper. More apropos considering spooky action at a distance, n'est-ce pas? Terry  

[Vo]: Re: Bell, Bang and Entangle

2006-06-29 Thread hohlrauml6d
One side note: For those Vorts who might not get the subject title: http://imdb.com/title/tt0051406/ My lusty heart rejects that I was only 4 when Kim Novak made this movie. Terry

Re: [Vo]: Methane as fuel, recycling CO2?

2006-06-29 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Kyle R. Mcallister wrote: Hello all, First off, I must say I hate the term alternative energy. Why? Alternative has a sort of 'its not the greatest but its something to fall back on' kind of attachment to it. I think this stuff is more like advanced energy, but thats just my $0.75

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2006-06-29 Thread Frederick Sparber
While Terry the Elder is untangling string while mooning over Kim Novak. I'll say hats off to Brian Green. Electrons and positrons are routinely ejected from radio-nuclei and K capture takes an electron with a circumference or wavelength = hbar/mc into the nucleus where it's spin stays at

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2006-06-29 Thread Frederick Sparber
Darn (Vo) nuisance. :-( - Original Message - From: Frederick Sparber To: vortex-l Sent: 6/29/2006 7:43:12 PM Subject: [Vo]: While Terry the Elder is untangling string while mooning over Kim Novak. I'll say hats off to Brian Green. Electrons and positrons are routinely ejected

[Vo]: Re: Methane from Atmospheric CO2

2006-06-29 Thread Frederick Sparber
Watch the oxygen bubbles coming off a livestock tank as the Algae turns greenhouse CO2 into Anerobic bacteria fermentable feedstock when air is excluded with a cover. Kept a water dish for a stray cat that picked up algae. More O2 bubbles than from a2 amp electrolysis cell anode. Floating Algae

[Vo]: Re: Nature's Particle Factories

2006-06-29 Thread TP Sparber
Oops,to do the algebra right and put all of the constants where they belong: E* r = hbar*c As energy (E ) increases, radius ( r ) has to decrease and vice versa. This will satisfy mcr = hbar for conservation of momentum (spin) and energy. Fred Electrons and positrons are routinely

[Vo]: CARBON -------- then solid carbonates ---CO2?

2006-06-29 Thread john herman
Dear Vo, Pre suppose one intends to burn H and O ... and use some of the atmosphere as well (A) The exhaust can be passed through calcium hydroxide in an aqueous solution. then we have trapped the gaseous to use on the crops... or our own garden. (B) Nitrogen - oxygen gases can

[Vo]: [OT] Nature Solves Own Problems

2006-06-29 Thread DonW
An article from the Asbury Park Press: http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060628/OPINION/606280538/1032 TOPIC OF THE DAY Global warming Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 06/28/06 Nature solves own problems As a retired scientist I marvel at the progress made in science during

[Vo]: hydrogen oxygen

2006-06-29 Thread john herman
Tangent VO -- If one examines cold fusion one seems to see electric current passing through various aqueous solutions with various types of electrodes. Can ANY vo let us know the amount of Hydrogen and Oxygen created by these varied experiments? Can we know the volume of H

[Vo]: FW: [Vo]: [OT] Nature Solves Own Problems

2006-06-29 Thread John . Rudiger
Hi all, This is the second publication from a scientist I have seen today trying to completely debunk Cold Fusion as relegated to the dust bin of history, I wonder who is paying for this misinformation to be fed to the uninitiated and unschooled general public! John Rudiger -Original