[Vo]: Re: [Vo]: Are we there yet?

2006-08-09 Thread Frederick Sparber
Jones Beene wrote: Colloidal electrolysis was invented in Japan and England simultaneously in 1968. It attempts to employ the enormous surface area and near fields of dispersed particles (acres per gram) catalytically to improve efficiency. A dissolved gas is considered to be a Colloid, Jones

[VO]:Re: Are we there yet?

2006-08-09 Thread RC Macaulay
Howdy Vorts, Reduced to application, the Coleman Powermate AirGen idea is a 1000 watt non-portable electric generator. Praxair will package the device with a botttle of hydrogen gas( under high pressure)and market it nationwide. A high pressure cylinder of hydrogen gas? For standby power

Re: [VO]:Re: Are we there yet?

2006-08-09 Thread Terry Blanton
On 8/9/06, RC Macaulay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now if you want to discuss colloid.. well.. once when we were kids and the strip down 34 model chev we used to hunt ducks in the rice fields wouldn't start, we found the battery was dry. Shazzaam ! A little squirt of pi*s in the battery did

[Vo]: Re: Are we there yet?

2006-08-09 Thread Jones Beene
--- OrionWorks wrote: [listing of related stories] http://tinyurl.com/md4ly This one is interesting, Steven: Hydrogen is the primary feedstock material for ammonia production and ammonia is the feedstock for LSB's Chemical Business' nitrogen based chemical products, such as nitric acid and

[Vo]: OT: [VO]:Re: Are we there yet?

2006-08-09 Thread OrionWorks
You're lucky you didn't get any feedback like the time I wet an electric cattle fence. TerryAnd then there's the account I recall where a guy hotwired the leg of his grand piano, the favorite stop-by post for his pet Fido. Thirty minutes, and one brief yelp later, problem solved.Grand piano and

[Vo]: Re: Are we there yet?

2006-08-09 Thread Jones Beene
Here is the site to Griffin's (AirGen) main patent application: http://tinyurl.com/jdpco or

Re: [Vo]: Re: Are we there yet?

2006-08-09 Thread Terry Blanton
On 8/9/06, Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is the site to Griffin's (AirGen) main patent application: http://tinyurl.com/jdpco Here is the patent in .pdf format: http://www.geocities.com/terry1094/Colloidal_HoD.pdf I'm not so sure what is so great about it other than you can get

Re: [Vo]: Re: Are we there yet?

2006-08-09 Thread Frederick Sparber
Terry Blanton wrote: On 8/9/06, Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is the site to Griffin's (AirGen) main patent application: http://tinyurl.com/jdpco Here is the patent in .pdf format: http://www.geocities.com/terry1094/Colloidal_HoD.pdf I'm not so sure what is so great

[Vo]: Re: Are we there yet?

2006-08-09 Thread Jones Beene
--- Terry Blanton wrote: I'm not so sure what is so great about it other than you can get hydrogen on demand. The process is either endothermic and/or consumptive of resources. There are not efficiency figures that I can find. Best I can tell, the inventor was supplying (or inventing) EDM

[Vo]: Re: Are we there yet?

2006-08-09 Thread Jones Beene
Speaking of that demo, from the original reference, with the H2 generator -- driving the fuel cell, powering the fan etc; which is admittedly meaningless even if it works for 300-400 hours at a time - OK...but to the Futurist in all of us - imagine that kind of thing with heavy water and with a

[Vo]: Re: Are we there yet?

2006-08-09 Thread Jones Beene
Speaking of the subcategory of H2 generators which use an intermediary (but recyclable) REACTIVE element to reduce water, there is another such possibility in the news this week ... This boron-- boron oxide scheme was developed by Tareq Abu-Hamed, University of Minnesota and colleagues at the

Re: [Vo]: Re: Magnetic Vortices Charged Water

2006-08-09 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Willis Jenkin's message of Sat, 5 Aug 2006 14:55:44 -0700: Hi Willis, [snip] Robin! On your response to my posting on ‘some’ in the field using pulsed DC and still obtaining gas production (H2, O2), below 1.2V, please be assured that it was not measured with a DC volt meter, more

Re: [Vo]: Correa Patent Issued

2006-08-09 Thread Christopher Arnold
Mike,As you said, you did not study the Correa patent yet insisted in commenting anyway - which was completely your mistake. To begin with - they are without any doubt using the Alexeff "Plasma Discharge Tube." Look at this was - the wheel is invented and someone eventually uses that wheel on

RE: [Vo]: Re: Are we there yet?

2006-08-09 Thread Frederick Sparber
[Original Message] From: Are we (all) there yet? Jones Beene. Speaking of the subcategory of H2 generators which use an intermediary (but recyclable) REACTIVE element to reduce water, there is another such possibility in the news this week ... What is recyclable about using a pound of