[Vo]: Re: 1998 Biodiesel from algae report

2007-01-19 Thread Michel Jullian
The nice thing is that the process designed for a fossil fuel plant will work identically for a biodiesel fuel plant, so the technology will be here to last. About the swimming pool sized pond, one must keep in mind that energy production will never exceed incident solar energy :) Michel

[Vo]: Up In The Sky . . .

2007-01-19 Thread Terry Blanton
http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53820 Air Force colonel reports lights 'not of this world' Snaps images above Arkansas: 'I have no idea what they were' Posted: January 17, 2007 6:37 p.m. Eastern By Joe

[Vo]: Biomanufacturing

2007-01-19 Thread abundance
Many coral reefs are in trouble. Many are bleaching and then disintegrating. Fish hatchery like protected growth pool would have reliably healthy living coral reefs and attendant sea creatures that would supply a surplus of larva to be deflected to seacrete production which I guess

Re: [Vo]: Supermag WTF?

2007-01-19 Thread Terry Blanton
On 1/15/07, Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My guess is pump/dump. The stock has gone from $0.05 to $0.65 in a few months. SVET is now trading at $1.75, up $1.10 since this report. Terry

[Vo]: NYC Stinks

2007-01-19 Thread Terry Blanton
http://wcbstv.com/topstories/local_story_016190952.html Experts Can't Find Source Of Mysterious NYC Odor (CBS/AP) JERSEY CITY Environmental officials in two states said they have given up hope of finding the source of a mysterious odor that swept across parts of New York City a week ago. New

Re: [Vo]: Biomanufacturing

2007-01-19 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many coral reefs are in trouble. Many are bleaching and then disintegrating. Fish hatchery like protected growth pool would have reliably healthy living coral reefs Maybe -- but IIRC the bleaching was finally tracked down to higher sea temperatures (after a couple

Re: [Vo]: NYC Stinks

2007-01-19 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Terry Blanton wrote: http://wcbstv.com/topstories/local_story_016190952.html Experts Can't Find Source Of Mysterious NYC Odor (CBS/AP) JERSEY CITY Environmental officials in two states said they have given up hope of finding the source of a mysterious odor that swept across parts of New York

Re: [Vo]: NYC Stinks

2007-01-19 Thread Terry Blanton
On 1/19/07, Stephen A. Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But methane is odorless, and there isn't any permafrost around Jersey City. True, however, what comes from permafrost is not pure methane and is likely quite odiferous. Terry

Re: [Vo]: NYC Stinks

2007-01-19 Thread Michael Foster
If it smelled like methyl mercaptan, it probably was methyl mercaptan. It's added to natural gas to make it stink, as a safety measure. Consequently, most people associate the odor with a gas leak. The smell of swamp gas from permafrost, while disagreeable, does not resemble methyl mercaptan,

[Vo]: Yomiuri: Bush to promote ethanol in State of the Union

2007-01-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
The lead story in today's Yomiuri newspaper (in Japanese) says that Bush will announce new steps to address global warming in his State of the Union speech on Jan. 23. He will emphasize ethanol and other alternative fuels. Sigh . . . Well, at least there has been some anti-ethanol press

Re: [Vo]: Yomiuri: Bush to promote ethanol in State of the Union

2007-01-19 Thread leaking pen
since part of the process of making ethanol is making corn syrup, which converts a lot of the partially digested starches to sugars, yes, actually, the whole process is likely more effecient to burn then to eat. also, corn is already in just about everything we eat. we grow more corn than we

Re: [Vo]: Yomiuri: Bush to promote ethanol in State of the Union

2007-01-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
leaking pen wrote: since part of the process of making ethanol is making corn syrup, which converts a lot of the partially digested starches to sugars, yes, actually, the whole process is likely more effecient to burn then to eat. Well, that's good. . . . also, corn is already in just

Re: [Vo]: Yomiuri: Bush to promote ethanol in State of the Union

2007-01-19 Thread leaking pen
Well, besides the issues that have been shown with too much corn syrup, shipping foods grown here overseas not really all the econmocal. better to get growing programs going, personally. I fail to see how it uses more fossil fuels than fuels it produces, please share. And it will also help

Re: [Vo]: Yomiuri: Bush to promote ethanol in State of the Union

2007-01-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
leaking pen wrote: Well, besides the issues that have been shown with too much corn syrup . . . As I said, one third of the people who will do not get enough to eat. Too much corn syrup would be far better than starvation. shipping foods grown here overseas not really all the econmocal.

Re: [Vo]: Yomiuri: Bush to promote ethanol in State of the Union

2007-01-19 Thread leaking pen
That type of growing would be what i meant by more efficient. agreed. a single multistory building with perfect climate and soil control would be great. hell, run pigs and cattle on the top floor, and drop fertilizer down. On 1/19/07, Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: leaking pen wrote:

Re: [Vo]: Yomiuri: Bush to promote ethanol in State of the Union

2007-01-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
leaking pen wrote: That type of growing would be what i meant by more efficient. agreed. a single multistory building with perfect climate and soil control would be great. Except that you cannot produce ethanol from that because the light from indoor agriculture has to be artificial. There

Re: [Vo]: Yomiuri: Bush to promote ethanol in State of the Union

2007-01-19 Thread Harry Veeder
Jed Rothwell wrote: I hope that we can soon grow meat in vitro, instead. - Jed ...or Star Trek style replicators to make any kind of food you want. Harry

Re: [Vo]: NYC Stinks

2007-01-19 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Stephen A. Lawrence's message of Fri, 19 Jan 2007 10:45:34 -0500: Hi, [snip all] If the source is natural, it could be a precursor to major tectonic activity. NYC hasn't had a major Earthquake for time I believe, so I think one is more or less due. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk

Re: [Vo]: Yomiuri: Bush to promote ethanol in State of the Union

2007-01-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
Harry Veeder wrote: ...or Star Trek style replicators to make any kind of food you want. In the far distant future -- thousands of years from now -- I expect that something like replicators will exist, and they will make anything we want. Any object, not just food. However, I am talking

Re: [Vo]: Yomiuri: Bush to promote ethanol in State of the Union

2007-01-19 Thread OrionWorks
Jed sez: ... If in vitro or cultured meat pans out, and the product tastes about as good as natural meat, or better, that I for one would be happy to eat nonaturally grown meat ever again. I am not a vegetarian, but I sympathize with their concerns. I am a hypocrite about this. So as

Re: [Vo]: Yomiuri: Bush to promote ethanol in State of the Union

2007-01-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
OrionWorks wrote: I believe the esteemed Mr. Clark also suggested we should stop burning petroleum and learn how to eat it as well. ;-) He did, and it is a darned good idea. Actually, for the most part we do this already, since we use petroleum-based fertilizer. Oil consumed as food also

Re: [Vo]: Re: Yomiuri: Bush to promote ethanol in State of the Union

2007-01-19 Thread Philip Winestone
There is another way of making ethanol: from cellulose. There's a process that uses an enzyme that converts the cellulose to sugar from which it is converted to ethanol. The process is proven; ethanol is being produced this way. Nobody seems to have taken notice of this process, which was

[Vo]: Fw: [BOBPARKS-WHATSNEW] What's New Friday January 19, 2007

2007-01-19 Thread Akira Kawasaki
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