Nick Palmer wrote:
"/Of all the men who attacked the flying problem in the 19th century,
Otto Lilienthal was easily the most important. ... It is true that
attempts at gliding had been made hundreds of years before him, and
that in the nineteenth century, Cayley, Spencer, Wenham, Mouillard,
a
Harry Veeder wrote:
After viewing the link provided by Gibson, I take that
Harry, Harry.
If the Chinese have a good magnetic shield that will do this, where work in
(the short distance of turning the knob with less than 44lbs of applied
Has anyone heard of the Jines P M Motor patent? They
Please see my naive conceptual illustration at
http://web.ncf.ca/eo200/generator.html
for my take on a Stiffler's imaginings.
Is this system capable generating electricity, and if so if some of the
electricity was used to turn the magnetic shield would it then qualify as a
self-powered mobile?
"Of all the men who attacked the flying problem in the 19th century, Otto
Lilienthal was easily the most important. ... It is true that attempts at
gliding had been made hundreds of years before him, and that in the nineteenth
century, Cayley, Spencer, Wenham, Mouillard, and many othcrs were rep
Sean from Steorn just visited his forum and answered a lot of questions. The
event reminded me of a swarm of Paparazzi, LOL.
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=58991#Item_39
One quote of interest -->
Steorn [Sean] said,
"the ease of replication for a hobbist has been a concer
On 11/7/2007 3:58 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
> You can see from the Wiki entry:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_base
>
> that the switch goes about 45 degree each way for a 90 degree swing, and
> that in the "on" position there will be a magnetic field across the
> teeth capable of liftng
I guess the stage that is problematic is when you turn the magnet to lift
the weight...
Harry
On 11/7/2007 2:30 PM, Stiffler Scientific wrote:
> I'm doing the math now, it can not be, even if we see it. Its one of those
> things where the mind suffers euphoria and lies to the brain.
>
> -
LMAO
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From: Jones Beene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 3:58 PM
To: vortex
Subject: [Vo]:An Irish Swing...
You can see from the Wiki entry:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_base
that the switch goes about 45 degree each way for a 90 degre
From Jed:
...
Interesting comments snipped...
...
Let's wait to see if anyone actually makes a ZPE OU motor. I doubt it will
happen. Unlike Newcomb and Close, I do not pretend to have sophisticated
technical justifications for this belief. I doubt it because it is an
apparent violation of th
You can see from the Wiki entry:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_base
that the switch goes about 45 degree each way for a 90 degree swing, and
that in the "on" position there will be a magnetic field across the
teeth capable of liftng a fair amount of weight - say 3 stone of
blarney, oo
Jeff Fink wrote:
You forgot J. J. Montgomery, the father of basic flying. He flew a
controlled glider in 1883. The Wright brothers read his book before
designing their own successful flying machines.
Montgomery is discussed in Chanute's book, and I think most people
agree he was the first
I don't see why such a sim would show OU unless you have a better understand of
gravity that reveals some fundamental KE inherent in gravity, such as radiation.
Radiation can cause a force, but theoretically you can also capture such
radiation energy.
Stiffler Scientific wrote:
Paul, don't
You forgot J. J. Montgomery, the father of basic flying. He flew a
controlled glider in 1883. The Wright brothers read his book before
designing their own successful flying machines.
Jeff
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From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 2:52 PM
To:
More people need to comment.
Harry
On 11/7/2007 2:30 PM, Stiffler Scientific wrote:
> I'm doing the math now, it can not be, even if we see it. Its one of those
> things where the mind suffers euphoria and lies to the brain.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Harry Veeder [mailto:[EMAIL
Paul, don't you have a computer simulation to run this idea?
I do and do not trust it as I have been able for 9 years now to fool both
the magnetic and electronics programs to show OU.
>From you past posts I trust you can simulate this?
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From: Stiffler Scientific [mailt
Don't bite Harry, those Irish squirrels in the cage do.
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From: Jones Beene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 2:31 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:How are they doing this
Harry Veeder wrote:
> By simply rotating the switch on and off
I'm doing the math now, it can not be, even if we see it. Its one of those
things where the mind suffers euphoria and lies to the brain.
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From: Harry Veeder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 3:24 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:How are
Harry Veeder wrote:
By simply rotating the switch on and off you can lift the
weight up and down with less energy than it takes to lift the weight by
hand.
A company in Ireland needs your help ASAP ...
After viewing the link provided by Gibson, I take that back!
You could mount the switch in a frame mechanically anchored to the ground
and then place a steel weight in the gap which lies between the switch
and the ground. By simply rotating the switch on and off you can lift the
weight up and down
The 44lbs first needs to be lifted into place and that
requires work against gravity.
It is like attaching a thread to a weight, then lifting the weight
by the thread and lastly cutting the thread with scissors.
Nothing free here.
On the other hand, what if we are talking about a system
in rotatio
Thank you. Now for sure I must have one.
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From: Gibson Elliot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 1:59 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:How are they doing this
In case you were wondering how this was done still,
see this link on Wikiped
In case you were wondering how this was done still,
see this link on Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_base
Explains how you can switch on and off this powerful
magnetic base.
G
--- Harry Veeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> you'll have to describe the application you have in
> m
OrionWorks wrote:
Viewing an interesting Wikipedia article "First Flying Machines", See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_flying_machine
lists a surprising number of people involved.
That is interesting. Actually, many people who are not listed made
important contributions, especially Cha
Harry, Harry.
If the Chinese have a good magnetic shield that will do this, where work in
(the short distance of turning the knob with less than 44lbs of applied
pressure to offset the 44lbs pull of the magnets) can't you see an
application?
No this is worth the 2hrs on the Houston roads, just so
This was interesting indeed, 'Mistake??'
They stated they knew of no such item, I referred then to Catalog #273
August 2007, Page 242 and they said, wow! what is that, we don't have it and
know nothing about it. Okay so if I order from the catalog will I get one,
answer, 'No we have no such item'.
you'll have to describe the application you have in mind.
Harry
On 11/7/2007 1:18 PM, Stiffler Scientific wrote:
> Would that not be great? Can you see the application?
>
> The $16 is small, but the drive to the store is 1hr each way so I thought I
> could save a trip if someone had the answer t
Would that not be great? Can you see the application?
The $16 is small, but the drive to the store is 1hr each way so I thought I
could save a trip if someone had the answer that said 'nothing new here'.
Never can tell where stuff of interest will pop up :-)
-Original Message-
From: Harry
might the switch move some sort of magnetic shielding?
Harry
On 11/7/2007 1:00 PM, Stiffler Scientific wrote:
> That was my thought, but 44lbs of pressure on this little switch, even with
> a little gear change seems a bit much don't you think?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Paul Lowran
www.jameco.com they are listing a 75W diode @ 905nm for range finding // and
'ignition', all for (#1623584) $37.55. I am waiting for a return email from
them, this is a high power dude for a consumer item.
That was my thought, but 44lbs of pressure on this little switch, even with
a little gear change seems a bit much don't you think?
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From: Paul Lowrance [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 12:55 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:How are they
I believe the switch merely pulls the magnet back away from the face.
Stiffler Scientific wrote:
The link dd not work after pasting it here,
use the following item# to search for it; 93329-2NDA
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From: Stiffler Scientific [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, J
Harry'
go to www.harborfreight.com
In there search box, search for item# 93329-2NDA
-Original Message-
From: Harry Veeder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 1:38 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:How are they doing this
I click the link and get this:
"
I click the link and get this:
"Sorry, the item number is not a valid item."
Harry
On 11/7/2007 12:30 PM, Stiffler Scientific wrote:
> Turn the magnetic field on and off with a slight movement of a switch,
> unless I am drawing a blank here this device could be interesting?
>
> Here is a link
The link dd not work after pasting it here,
use the following item# to search for it; 93329-2NDA
-Original Message-
From: Stiffler Scientific [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 12:31 PM
To: Vortex-L
Subject: [Vo]:How are they doing this
Turn the magnetic field on
Turn the magnetic field on and off with a slight movement of a switch,
unless I am drawing a blank here this device could be interesting?
Here is a link to it.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?function=Search
thomas malloy wrote:
I read that India built a H W plant. There is a volcanic vent off of the
Indian coast which expresses lots of D2. The Indian plant uses a new
technology which cut the bottom out production cost, forcing the
Canadian plants out of business.
Yes they have an enrichment pla
On 7/11/07, R.C.Macaulay wrote:
Orion wrote..
>What I'm leading up to here is the observation of a historical pattern
>where inventors of some new innovative technology, more often than
>not, have many, MANY competitors nipping at their heels
Howdy Steven,
Not so strange a pattern when viewed
Orion wrote..
What I'm leading up to here is the observation of a historical pattern
where inventors of some new innovative technology, more often than
not, have many, MANY competitors nipping at their heels
Howdy Steven,
Not so strange a pattern when viewed from a historical prespective. Th
Persia, present day Iran, does have a distinguished history of Science,
if you go back far enough. Many intellectuals left there following the
ouster of the Shah. Many of them were successful in the West. Perhaps a
new generation of thinkers in that area will actually help to advance
the world
Jed,
I know you've elaborated on this subject numerous times in the past
but I was wondering if you could give a synopsis of just whom in your
historical eye were the most important players in the race to
construct the first powered flight airplane, besides the obvious
Wright players.
Viewing an
Jed Rothwell wrote:
Jones Beene wrote:
OK yes - it does get worse over time but that is not material to the
comment of a low starting level, i.e. a low impurity level
As far as I know, all heavy water is made from ordinary tap water, not
ocean water. Nearly all of it is made with a chemica
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