Re: [Vo]:resend2/pendulum and spinning bob

2007-09-03 Thread R.C.Macaulay
Howdy Vorts, Stephen Lawrence has posted some good pendulum info. A careful look at how he has approached the subject shows he is more than conversant with the subject. Back in Houston and Dallas in the late 1940's and 50's we saw a rise of technical interest in pendulums for use in

Re: [Vo]:resend2/pendulum and spinning bob

2007-09-03 Thread OrionWorks
Hello Harry. Let's make sure I'm on the same page with you on this pendulum matter. Are you claiming the pendulum arm is going to swing back-and-forth with the exact same periodicity frequency regardless of whether the spin-bob wheel has the breaks on or off? Steven wrote: snip In any case I

Re: [VO]:OT: It's only money

2007-09-03 Thread R.C.Macaulay
Blank Plilip wrote.. Just saw this, Richard. The market system is great, but this is obviously not the market system... Ominous. Begs the question: How many media and government people are fattening themselves on all that money, for services rendered? Perhaps that explains this failure.

Re: [Vo]:STEORN: Knapen demonstrates Kinetca toy

2007-09-03 Thread OrionWorks
Since Knapen says it is OU, and he ought to know, what may have happened is that his remarks refer to a different version of the toy than was seen in the video. I think that's a stretch to speculate that Knapen is actually referring to a different model. I reveal my ignorance here, but who

Re: [Vo]:resend2/pendulum and spinning bob

2007-09-03 Thread Harry Veeder
Steven and Stephen, - Original Message - From: OrionWorks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, September 3, 2007 10:47 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:resend2/pendulum and spinning bob Hello Harry. Let's make sure I'm on the same page with you on this pendulum matter. Are you claiming the

[Vo]:Josephson comments on cold fusion in Physics World

2007-09-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
See: http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/indepth/30976 Scroll down to the comments after the article. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:STEORN: Knapen demonstrates Kinetca toy

2007-09-03 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message - From: OrionWorks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Here's another admittedly convoluted and probably not very accurate explanation: A deliberate amount disinformation instigated on STEORN's part to buy the company time to get their prototype up and running. If STEORN presumably

[Vo]:Re: Superimposed AC electrolysis current method

2007-09-03 Thread Horace Heffner
HF AC V1 o--- ---o V2 | | OOO === T1 OOO | | | i-- | | | --i -M1--- | ---M2- | | |

[Vo]:Re: resend2/pendulum and spinning bob

2007-09-03 Thread Michel Jullian
Indeed, classical physics has COE built-in, and thus excludes OU if that's what you're after. Michel - Original Message - From: Harry Veeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 5:44 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:resend2/pendulum and spinning bob ... I

Re: [Vo]:Re: Towards verification of BG claims

2007-09-03 Thread Horace Heffner
On Sep 3, 2007, at 9:05 AM, Michel Jullian wrote: http://mtaonline.net/~hheffner/Electrolyser.pdf When electrolysing hydrogen, use can be made of a diffuse or porous (essentially transparent to hydrogen) but structurally strong material as a supporting structure for a Pd surfaced cathode

[Vo]:Re: Towards verification of BG claims

2007-09-03 Thread Jones Beene
Horace Heffner wrote: I still like the idea of driving the hydrogen into the electrolysis plate itself Sumitomo is a supplier of porous nickel tubes. This would make an interesting cathode, especially if a high percentage of H2 comes through the tube, rather than remaining in bubbles on

[Vo]:Re: Towards verification of BG claims

2007-09-03 Thread Jones Beene
A valid Mills' electrolysis comparison would need to compare KOH electrolyte against a non-catalyst, for instance NaOH.

[Vo]:H2 Standards and Recombiner

2007-09-03 Thread Stiffler Scientific
In case anyone is interested... A micro reactor for recombining H2 and O2 http://www.fzk.de/fzk/idcplg?IdcService=FZKnode=2741lang=en Hydrogen Gas Standards http://www.utahehs.org/index.php?tier=5id=125

[Vo]:Re: Superimposed AC electrolysis current method

2007-09-03 Thread Horace Heffner
Error in last post. I forgot to include the important capacitance, that of the double layer. Oh well anther day another error or so... Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/

[Vo]:Early CRE Electrolyzer

2007-09-03 Thread Stiffler Scientific
If you have not seen this early electrolyzer it somehow got to YouTube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFA1aKos6LM It was powered by 12 vdc at 100mA max current on a 50% duty cycle. What should be noted here is the evolution of gas external of the electrodes (far removed from the electrode

Re: [Vo]:Re: Towards verification of BG claims

2007-09-03 Thread Horace Heffner
On Sep 3, 2007, at 9:05 AM, Michel Jullian wrote: http://mtaonline.net/~hheffner/Electrolyser.pdf When electrolysing hydrogen, use can be made of a diffuse or porous (essentially transparent to hydrogen) but structurally strong material as a supporting structure for a Pd surfaced cathode

[Vo]:Re: Superimposed AC electrolysis current method

2007-09-03 Thread Horace Heffner
In the series of capacitances across an electrolytic cell gap, the double layer capacitance is insignificant because at about 0.2 F/m^2 it is 6 orders of magnitude larger than the electrolyte capacitance at 4.423x10^-7 F/m^2 at 0.1 cm plate separation. In other words: C = 1/( (1/.002 F)

[Vo]:UFO

2007-09-03 Thread Horace Heffner
On Sep 3, 2007, at 11:43 AM, Stiffler Scientific wrote: If you have not seen this early electrolyzer it somehow got to YouTube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFA1aKos6LM It was powered by 12 vdc at 100mA max current on a 50% duty cycle. What should be noted here is the evolution of gas

[Vo]:Re: Towards verification of BG claims

2007-09-03 Thread Michel Jullian
Oh I see, I thought you meant the porous structure supported a continuous (waterproof) Pd foil, in fact the mesh is made of Pd or is Pd plated right? Independently of the cathode material, the idea of flowing electrolyte through a porous electrode in order to maximize the ratio of active

[Vo]:Re: Early CRE Electrolyzer

2007-09-03 Thread Jones Beene
Ron, Wouldn't it be lovely if peroxide were being formed on the (oxygen deficient) anode and then further spitting after a delay... but more likely, since the electrodes appear to be graphite, it is carbon related. Any idea what the composition of the (non electrode) gas, is? Hard to see in

RE: [Vo]:Re: Early CRE Electrolyzer

2007-09-03 Thread Stiffler Scientific
This was an early video and has gone thru many conversions to get it to the tube. Come 9/6 or 9/7 we will try to get the first CREC vids up there. The first ones will be only to show that it is real and no hidden #00 wires or secret stuff to drive the cell. After that a vid will show a 3amp auto

[Vo]:Surface electron catalyzed fusion hypothesis (was Re: Superimposed AC electrolysis current method)

2007-09-03 Thread Michel Jullian
- Original Message - From: Horace Heffner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 1:28 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Superimposed AC electrolysis current method On Sep 3, 2007, at 3:01 PM, Michel Jullian wrote: I agree, it's the smaller capacitance

[Vo]:Re: Gap fusor

2007-09-03 Thread Michel Jullian
You seem to be agreeing that incoming vs outgoing surface electron catalyzed fusion is the thing :-) I also proposed a low hydrogen pressure gap fusor scheme on the CMNS list recently: - From: Michel Jullian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

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