Re: [Vo]:LENR Presentation by Joseph Zawodny, NASA Langley Research Center Edit

2011-12-05 Thread Joshua Cude
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 2:17 AM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint < zeropo...@charter.net> wrote: > JC wrote: > > “Say what? That's just gibberish. I seriously doubt that Zawodny has any > idea what that sentence means, if it means anything at all. A physical > effect is allowed by a breakdown in a mathe

Re: [Vo]:Re: Krivit article on NASA Forum

2011-12-05 Thread Terry Blanton
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Mattia Rizzi wrote: > Another "free energy conspiracy"? So boring... > The only fact was that he was sentenced as a scammer and his work was > bullshit. Actually, I find all this exciting and interesting. It's people who killed Tinker Bell that I find boring. S

Re: [Vo]:Re: Krivit article on NASA Forum

2011-12-05 Thread Terry Blanton
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 9:36 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: > Actually I find the interlocking companies with funding from ... someplace > ..., along with the early claims that Rossi (or was it Defkalion?) had > received a great deal of investment money from a substantial number of > ex-pat Greeks

[Vo]:Re: Krivit article on NASA Forum

2011-12-05 Thread Mattia Rizzi
He did have some remarkable demonstrations AND he died the same way as knowledgeable people Another "free energy conspiracy"? So boring... The only fact was that he was sentenced as a scammer and his work was bullshit. -Messaggio originale- From: Terry Blanton Sent: Monday, Decembe

Re: [Vo]:Nichenergy-sponsored workshop on LENR?

2011-12-05 Thread Terry Blanton
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 8:15 AM, Akira Shirakawa wrote: > Hello group, > > It has come to my attention that the 10th International Workshop on > Anomalies in Hydrogen Loaded Metals on April 2012 will be organized by > Piantelli and sponsored by Nichenergy srl, a newly founded company > representing

Re: [Vo]:Padua University not Siena made the analysis

2011-12-05 Thread Alain dit le Cycliste
just about the shielding, what about the chamber itself as shielding (what material/thickness?) for some kind of emissions. at least it should stop alpha and beta, protons, weak X, and reduce X, and maybe soft gamma. 2011/12/5 Berke Durak > According to Nelson's slides, the gammas are in the 50

Re: [Vo]:Re: Krivit article on NASA Forum

2011-12-05 Thread Terry Blanton
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Mattia Rizzi wrote: > So Stanley Meter, a scammer (Ohio court sentence), was not a "true scammer"? > Mmmh. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Meyer%27s_water_fuel_cell Actually, the book is not yet closed Meyer. Some believe that he did not fully disclose al

Re: [Vo]:Nasa LENR slides

2011-12-05 Thread David Roberson
I just wanted to inject a thought into Vortex. There is much talk of the large energy required to cause the LENR reaction to take place. We all know that cosmic rays are penetrating the environment which carry far more energy than needed to overcome the barriers, so maybe a few triggers are n

Re: [Vo]:Re: Krivit article on NASA Forum

2011-12-05 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 11-12-05 07:36 AM, Terry Blanton wrote: On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 11:32 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: This is, of course, one of the classic hallmarks of the scammer. Many say this; Because it's true, of course. but, to what end? To point out the annoying and unavoidable truth. I c

Re: [Vo]:Padua University not Siena made the analysis

2011-12-05 Thread Berke Durak
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 3:24 AM, Joshua Cude wrote: > But Villa measured no gammas above background with *no* lead. > ... > Villa would have detected gammas in that range. All right, probably no or negligible gammas above 200 keV. >>  (c) We don't know if the gammas are emitted isotropically. > >

[Vo]:Re: Krivit article on NASA Forum

2011-12-05 Thread Mattia Rizzi
So Stanley Meter, a scammer (Ohio court sentence), was not a "true scammer"? Mmmh. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Meyer%27s_water_fuel_cell -Messaggio originale- From: Terry Blanton Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 2:15 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Krivit art

[Vo]:Nichenergy-sponsored workshop on LENR?

2011-12-05 Thread Akira Shirakawa
Hello group, It has come to my attention that the 10th International Workshop on Anomalies in Hydrogen Loaded Metals on April 2012 will be organized by Piantelli and sponsored by Nichenergy srl, a newly founded company representing his investors and which will supposedly manufacture Ni-H devi

Re: [Vo]:Re: Krivit article on NASA Forum

2011-12-05 Thread Terry Blanton
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 8:05 AM, Mattia Rizzi wrote: > -.- > Rossi is asking for money. He asked money to Defkalion in February/March (A > LOT OF MONEY) for his "technology" (deadline of payment around June) > Stop saying that he is not asking for money, because is false. Okay, Rossi is not asking

Re: [Vo]:LHC plagued by UFOs

2011-12-05 Thread Terry Blanton
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 8:04 AM, Alain dit le Cycliste wrote: > About the risk of big black hole, > the CERN have accepted to start the LHC, not only because current theory say > that small black hole will evaporate quickly (they don't take risk based on, > even consensual, theory), > but because A

[Vo]:Re: Krivit article on NASA Forum

2011-12-05 Thread Mattia Rizzi
-.- Rossi is asking for money. He asked money to Defkalion in February/March (A LOT OF MONEY) for his "technology" (deadline of payment around June) Stop saying that he is not asking for money, because is false. -Messaggio originale- From: Terry Blanton Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011

Re: [Vo]:LHC plagued by UFOs

2011-12-05 Thread Alain dit le Cycliste
About the risk of big black hole, the CERN have accepted to start the LHC, not only because current theory say that small black hole will evaporate quickly (they don't take risk based on, even consensual, theory), but because Auger observatory have shown that we receive daily huge cosmic particle t

Re: [Vo]:Re: Krivit article on NASA Forum

2011-12-05 Thread Terry Blanton
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 7:39 AM, Mattia Rizzi wrote: >> He is not asking for money > > > Again? Why someone keeps saying "He is not asking for money" when it's not > true? Are you speaking of the people who buy his product? T

Re: [Vo]:LHC plagued by UFOs

2011-12-05 Thread Terry Blanton
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 6:49 AM, Horace Heffner wrote:. > The bad news is that a failure to realize the danger of black holes created > at one or more beam resonance peaks may have set on course the soon end to > earth's existence. Horace, maybe you should dress this up a bit and send it here: h

[Vo]:Re: Krivit article on NASA Forum

2011-12-05 Thread Mattia Rizzi
He is not asking for money Again? Why someone keeps saying "He is not asking for money" when it's not true? -Messaggio originale- From: Terry Blanton Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 1:36 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Krivit article on NASA Forum On Sun, Dec 4, 20

Re: [Vo]:Re: Krivit article on NASA Forum

2011-12-05 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 11:32 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: > This is, of course, one of the classic hallmarks of the scammer. Many say this; but, to what end? He is not asking for money. Is it just the attention? Was he improperly weaned as a child? T

Re: [Vo]:LHC plagued by UFOs

2011-12-05 Thread Horace Heffner
A restatement and some new thoughts on black hole UFOs at CERN. This is in response to the article about difficulties at the CERN LHC: http://www.livescience.com/17207-ufos-disrupting-search-god- particle.html "...UFOs — unidentified falling objects, that is — keep getting in their way."

Re: [Vo]:Re: can we use such a program?

2011-12-05 Thread Craig Haynie
On Sun, 2011-12-04 at 18:44 -0800, Mary Yugo wrote: > Rossi lied when he said he was self-funded when in fact he had > received funds from Ampenergo. Either that or Casserino lied. Rossi > had a reason to lie, Casserino did not. There is no Ampenergo; it's just a paper company, like Leonardo cor

[Vo]:negative endothermic?

2011-12-05 Thread francis
Once Mill's or Rossi's materials are up to temp they NEED energy subtracted because the atomic hydrogen must cool to reform h2 then changes in suppression values experienced by the moving gas relative to the Ni geometry lower the disassociation threshold such that the newly formed molecule disasso

RE: [Vo]:Speaking of MAHG

2011-12-05 Thread peter . heckert
- Original Nachricht Von: Jones Beene An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Datum: 05.12.2011 02:39 Betreff: RE: [Vo]:Speaking of MAHG > The 15 kHz frequency is in the low ultrasonic range, and has been seen in a > number of claimed gainful (or very efficient) devices: most recently the >

RE: [Vo]:LENR Presentation by Joseph Zawodny, NASA Langley Research Center Edit

2011-12-05 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
JC wrote: "Say what? That's just gibberish. I seriously doubt that Zawodny has any idea what that sentence means, if it means anything at all. A physical effect is allowed by a breakdown in a mathematical approximation? What that sentence does is make people's eyes glaze over, and think it sounds

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