RE: [Vo]:Bosons and Bogons

2012-07-06 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Oh come on... just one more? What do you call an elevator going up filled with Higgs bosons? -m

Re: [Vo]:general approximation of the viability of gamma quenching

2012-07-06 Thread pagnucco
Eric, Lots of good, but very difficult questions. I am trying to understand how Compton scattering formulas change when dressed electrons are involved. I do not think the standard derivations work for electrons in e-m fields - whether bound or not. Even fields in dc currents probably cannot be

Re: [Vo]:Bosons and Bogons

2012-07-06 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 11:39 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > 2012 and the type 13 planets: But there *is* hope: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfQLA0S7eJ0 T

Re: [Vo]:Bosons and Bogons

2012-07-06 Thread Terry Blanton
2012 and the type 13 planets: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDKo7pTwIwA Quit looking!

RE: [Vo]:Bosons and Bogons

2012-07-06 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
RE: " What do you call the coverage given to the God particle?" The obvious, but less appropriate answer is "Mass Media"... I would prefer, "Mass(ive) Misinformation"! :-) -Mark -Original Message- From: Harry Veeder [mailto:hveeder...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 6:32 PM To:

RE: [Vo]:Bosons and Bogons

2012-07-06 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
No, note that I said "about to crash", so they are reacting to their imminent demise... "Massive Casualty" would be what remains after the collision... -m -Original Message- From: Jojo Jaro [mailto:jth...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 6:31 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: R

RE: [Vo]:Bosons and Bogons

2012-07-06 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
> What do you call the coverage given > to the God particle? >> Mass Hysteria. But this pertains only to Catholic Bosons. Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]: ECAT 600 C Operations

2012-07-06 Thread Harry Veeder
Rossi behaviour and speech is puzzling. ;-) I gave up in november trying to weave a coherent picture of his research. Harry On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 8:07 PM, David L Babcock wrote: > Your puzzling is puzzling, Harry. > Rossi is claiming (I think it was) 10 KWatts of power from a unit. There are > f

[Vo]:Dust Today, Gone Tomorrow

2012-07-06 Thread Axil Axil
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/07/120705201330.htm *Dust Today, Gone Tomorrow: Astronomers Discover Houdini-Like Vanishing Act in Space* According to the neutron repulsion based nebular cold fission theory that I have recently come up with, the heavy elements in the dust grains in

Re: [Vo]:Bosons and Bogons

2012-07-06 Thread Harry Veeder
On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: >> Jeopardy style >> >> Boson Jokes for $1000 >> >> answer: mass pyschology > > What is the treatment for the mass murder of trillions of Higgs Bosons? > > T > hehe. The murder was brought

Re: [Vo]:Bosons and Bogons

2012-07-06 Thread Harry Veeder
What do you call the coverage given to the God particle? harry On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 8:10 PM, Jojo Jaro wrote: > Mass Hysteria.

Re: [Vo]:Bosons and Bogons

2012-07-06 Thread Jojo Jaro
I disagree, that would be Mass Casualty. :-) Jojo - Original Message - From: "MarkI-ZeroPoint" To: Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 8:53 AM Subject: RE: [Vo]:Bosons and Bogons No Jaro, Mass Hysteria would be two busses of Higgs Bosons about to crash head-on into each other! -m -

Re: [Vo]:Bosons and Bogons

2012-07-06 Thread David Roberson
Ancient Higgs Story. :-) Dave -Original Message- From: Jojo Jaro To: vortex-l Sent: Fri, Jul 6, 2012 8:11 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Bosons and Bogons Mass Hysteria. - Original Message - rom: "MarkI-ZeroPoint" o: ent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 5:15 AM ubject: RE: [Vo]:Bosons a

RE: [Vo]:Bosons and Bogons

2012-07-06 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
No Jaro, Mass Hysteria would be two busses of Higgs Bosons about to crash head-on into each other! -m -Original Message- From: Jojo Jaro [mailto:jth...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 5:11 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Bosons and Bogons Mass Hysteria. - O

[Vo]:photo-assisted ionization of iodine

2012-07-06 Thread Jones Beene
This paper goes all the way back to 1920 - by H. D. Smyth and K. T. Compton Palmer Physical Laboratory, Princeton, New Jersey. One of those names should be familiar- Karl was Arthur's brother. http://prola.aps.org/abstract/PR/v16/i6/p501_1 This concerns the strong fluorescence effect on ionizatio

Re: [Vo]: ECAT 600 C Operations

2012-07-06 Thread Jojo Jaro
I suggest LENRv2 or LENR2 instead of LENR++ as this is a totally different reaction, not just an enhancement of the previous process. Version 2 is based on electric control of Carbon Nanotubes instead of temperature control of Thermionic Catalysts. Jojo - Original Message - F

Re: [Vo]:Bosons and Bogons

2012-07-06 Thread Jojo Jaro
Mass Hysteria. - Original Message - From: "MarkI-ZeroPoint" To: Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 5:15 AM Subject: RE: [Vo]:Bosons and Bogons What do you call a bus full of Higgs Bosons? -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 0

Re: [Vo]: ECAT 600 C Operations

2012-07-06 Thread David L Babcock
Your puzzling is puzzling, Harry. Rossi is claiming (I think it was) 10 KWatts of power from a unit. There are few practical ways to measure that besides (in essence) boiling water. A gale of air? I will give you, that Rossi may not have /simultaneously/ attained 600 degC and 10 KWatts. This

Re: [Vo]:Bosons and Bogons

2012-07-06 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: > Jeopardy style > > Boson Jokes for $1000 > > answer: mass pyschology What is the treatment for the mass murder of trillions of Higgs Bosons? T

Re: [Vo]:Bosons and Bogons

2012-07-06 Thread Harry Veeder
Jeopardy style Boson Jokes for $1000 answer: mass pyschology question: what is .? Harry On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 7:44 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint wrote: > Jones, > Urban decay?... well, perhaps if the bus drives around for several bosonic > half-lives! > > You're great at Lawyering, and pretty sh

RE: [Vo]:Bosons and Bogons

2012-07-06 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
> What do you call a bus full of Higgs Bosons? So far, there have been three really good theories set forth. > Mass transit?<= runner up > No way to diss-Cern <= my favorite > Urban Decay Come on! Mark. Reveal your data! Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com

RE: [Vo]:Bosons and Bogons

2012-07-06 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Jones, Urban decay?... well, perhaps if the bus drives around for several bosonic half-lives! You're great at Lawyering, and pretty sharp on Laws of physics, but in the Laughs dept... don't quit your day-job! :-) -m -Original Message- From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent:

RE: [Vo]:Bosons and Bogons

2012-07-06 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Terry won! :-) -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 4:05 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Bosons and Bogons On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 5:15 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint wrote: > What do you call a bus full of Higgs Bosons? Mass t

RE: [Vo]:Bosons and Bogons

2012-07-06 Thread Jones Beene
Urban decay? -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton > What do you call a bus full of Higgs Bosons? Mass transit? :-)

Re: [Vo]:Bosons and Bogons

2012-07-06 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 5:15 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint wrote: > What do you call a bus full of Higgs Bosons? Mass transit? :-) T

Re: [Vo]: ECAT 600 C Operations

2012-07-06 Thread Axil Axil
Competition is always beneficial to the consumer in any product offering. The refresher course that Microsoft has provided us in the preceding decades shows that the consumer is not well served by a monopoly. The monopolist is free to call his own shots, charge what the market will bear, and releas

RE: [Vo]:Bosons and Bogons

2012-07-06 Thread Jones Beene
No way to diss-Cern ? -Original Message- From: MarkI-ZeroPoint What do you call a bus full of Higgs Bosons? -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton A Higgs boson walks into a church. "We don't allow Higgs bosons in here!" shouts the priest. Says the particle: "But without me, h

[Vo]:Well...it is kinda like---Well- Higgs

2012-07-06 Thread Ron Kita
Greetings All, I find the search for Higgs funny: http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn22029-its-a-boson-but-we-need-to-know-if-its-the-higgs.html Grins, Ron Kita, Chiralex Everytime I hear of the Press say "something astrological" is appearing in the night sky that we must see---I yawn..bee

RE: [Vo]:Bosons and Bogons

2012-07-06 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
What do you call a bus full of Higgs Bosons? -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 1:57 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Bosons and Bogons A Higgs boson walks into a church. "We don't allow Higgs bosons in here!" shouts

Re: [Vo]: ECAT 600 C Operations

2012-07-06 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Axil > Things are moving very fast in LENR and is difficult to > keep up with Rossi let along surpass him. ...and from David: > The control is now far superior if the recent reports are accurate. I suspect not everyone within the Vort Collective shares what appears to be a new level enthu

Re: [Vo]: ECAT 600 C Operations

2012-07-06 Thread Axil Axil
Extending on Peter Gluck’s concept of LENR+ as a supplemented LENR design, I offer to classify this new Rossi design as a LENR++ design. DGT LENR+ technology has been superseded by Rossi’s new LERN++ design. I will wait for this new Rossi device to be commercially available for home use before I

Re: [Vo]:Bosons and Bogons

2012-07-06 Thread Terry Blanton
A Higgs boson walks into a church. "We don't allow Higgs bosons in here!" shouts the priest. Says the particle: "But without me, how can you have Mass?" T

Re: [Vo]: ECAT 600 C Operations

2012-07-06 Thread David Roberson
This new information is the major reason for my post. The control is now far superior if the recent reports are accurate. The actual operating temperature of the core internally is not different unless it can now be elevated without danger of thermal run away, and if the process is totally

Re: [Vo]:peter hagelstein's new theory

2012-07-06 Thread Axil Axil
Putting things into proper perspective, Hagelstein’s LENR theory based on the coupling between a deuteron and a lattice is what Peter Gluck calls a LENR reaction as opposed to a LENR+ reaction. Being only classified as a LENR reaction as Peter Gluck properly describes, this theory is basically t

Re: [Vo]: ECAT 600 C Operations

2012-07-06 Thread Axil Axil
In the old style E-Cat core, the flow of coolant water was the way the E-Cat heat production process was controlled. Water flow was increased to retard the reaction, and conversely water flow was retarded to increase the reaction. On the other hand, the DGT core is also thermionic. DGT turns the r

Re: [Vo]:OT: Wall of Fire

2012-07-06 Thread Harry Veeder
short but sweet. Harry On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Here is another wall of fire in San Diego, where they accidentally shot off > 20 minutes of July 4th fireworks in 15 seconds: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuJHfkXEI-o > > Sort of like a gigantic lightbulb. > > htt

Re: [Vo]: ECAT 600 C Operations

2012-07-06 Thread Harry Veeder
I just want to remind people that the claimed operating temperature of 600C is not new. When Rossi presented the ecat in Jan 2011, he said the core would reach temperatures around 600C, but the heated water only just boiled. Now he claims the core is stable at 600C but he is not doing anything wit

Re: [Vo]:peter hagelstein's new theory

2012-07-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: > It is the newest version, or iteration, of the same theory he had before. > He should be publishing soon. The people at W&M said they want manuscripts > in 2 weeks. If he does not publish I will ask him for the slides. - Jed

Re: [Vo]: ECAT 600 C Operations

2012-07-06 Thread Axil Axil
http://pesn.com/2012/06/30/9602121_Solid_State_E-Cat/ The New Solid State E-Cat It is my considered opinion, the new E-Cat Reactor Core is now under precise electric control. Cheers:Axil On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 1:56 PM, David Rob

[Vo]: ECAT 600 C Operations

2012-07-06 Thread David Roberson
Recently it has been reported that the latest version of the Rossi ECAT can operate at 600 degrees centigrade or more without going unstable. This is a remarkable improvement if accurate and it is suggested that the proof will be delivered soon. The earlier versions of the device tended to bec

RE: [Vo]:125 GeV

2012-07-06 Thread Jones Beene
Well, Mark - there is at least one highly respected theoretician who thinks that I am spinning wheels with this endeavor. Maybe it is premature ... what is that they say about 'fools rushing in ...?" Nevertheless - nothing I have seen theoretically stands up to close scrutiny, so I will trudge on

RE: [Vo]:125 GeV

2012-07-06 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Jones, You been busy this morning... have some more coffee and you'll have it all figured out by noon-time! :-) -m _ From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 7:35 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:125 GeV Pl

RE: [Vo]:125 GeV

2012-07-06 Thread Jones Beene
Please forgive speculation based on too little information, and on a story that is just breaking. I do realize that none of the numbers are firm yet, and that I am trying to wedge into the big-picture a few energy anomalies which could be unconnected in the end, and which few in physics believe any

[Vo]:125 GeV

2012-07-06 Thread Jones Beene
1 amu = 931.46 MeV/c2 or alternatively 1 GeV = 1.074 amu. Ergo 125 GeV =~ 134 amu. The reported anomaly identified with the Higgs boson or field is at 125 GeV but that does not mean that 134 amu is a usable value for the equivalent rest mass. Xenon has an stable isotope with mass at 134 and that

[Vo]:Bosons and Bogons

2012-07-06 Thread Jones Beene
To my knowledge, no one has yet to mention the oddities wrt elements 53, 53, and 54 including the "iodine gap" and the infamous Te isomer @ ~125 GeV. More on that later... The following comes from a gentleman who would rather not have his name associated with dissing a large cadre of men who hav