Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

2013-09-25 Thread Alain Sepeda
I agree too that most of incentive in Science is status (science in real life is very like political in a way as my dear MP secretary explained to me). about removing older people from decision, I think it can be evil too. From decision maybe, but from discussion no. I see that older people

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

2013-09-25 Thread James Bowery
The scientific approach, of course, would be two establish two groups, one a control group and the other a treatment group where the treatment is the proposed change, in this case the age limit. On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.comwrote: I agree too that most

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

2013-09-25 Thread David Roberson
We are discussing a complicated issue. All old people and young people are not the same and it is not fair to stereotype everyone. It has been my observation that people tend to think in manners that are a result of their life experiences. An older scientist with a clear open mind has the

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

2013-09-25 Thread Edmund Storms
Being one of the old people, I would like to share my impression of this issue. Most young people are ignorant, self-centered, and without much imagination. When they become old people, most remain ignorant, self- centered, and without imagination. Growing old simply gives a person who

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

2013-09-25 Thread Lennart Thornros
Hi I signed up for this newsletter a few days ago. I guess I am answering the wrong way. Let me know the right way and I will do it correct. Just could not sit and listen to some of the the comments. Read Edmund Storms comment a couple of times. I am a rather old guy and I am working in the field

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

2013-09-25 Thread Axil Axil
MARKET YOURSELF AND YOUR IDEAS It seems to me that a LENR system is a jigsaw puzzle make up of 10,000 pieces. How do you hold the interest of a customer of the LENR concept long enough for them to endure the hard job of learning about all those thousands of obscure pieces? Especially when the

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

2013-09-25 Thread James Bowery
I think you may be misunderstanding Jed's point, Dave. Jed is far from implying that among LENR researchers the young are better represented than the old. Indeed, it is manifestly obvious that LENR research is kept alive almost entirely by the freedom older scientists enjoy either under tenure

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

2013-09-25 Thread Alain Sepeda
we can discuss on intrinsic qualities linked to age, and I would mostly agree. interpersonal differences are more important that the average changes in character with age... Experience, and time in the system have more impact than age... experience , and lack of experience have respective

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

2013-09-25 Thread Axil Axil
Regarding: Experience, and time in the system have more impact than age Brian David Josephson, is a Welsh physicist. He became a Nobel Prize laureate in 1973 for the prediction of the eponymous Josephson Effect. You would normally assume that this fine and clever fellow would have some

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

2013-09-25 Thread Alain Sepeda
It remind me one of the old rebel, who beside shaking the scientific community, being insulted by journalist and holder of The True Truth, do babysitting after the conferences... This fearless and hopeless scientist, with a huge carreer in his domain, said that he was forced to do the job alone

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

2013-09-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Being one of the old people, I would like to share my impression of this issue. Most young people are ignorant, self-centered, and without much imagination. When they become old people, most remain ignorant, self-centered, and without imagination. .

[Vo]:ICCF18 stats

2013-09-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
http://iccf18.research.missouri.edu/files/ICCF18_Statistics.pdf

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

2013-09-25 Thread torulf.greek
I think this is inverted in the LENR community. TG On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 16:49:57 -0400, Jed Rothwell wrote: Edmund Storms wrote: Being one of the old people, I would like to share my impression of this issue. Most young people are ignorant, self-centered, and without much imagination.

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

2013-09-25 Thread torulf.greek
Ooh! That was an anser to Jeds post. Not to Storms post. On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 01:27:04 +0200, torulf.gr...@bredband.net wrote: I think this is inverted in the LENR community. TG On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 16:49:57 -0400, Jed Rothwell wrote: Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Being one of

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

2013-09-25 Thread a.ashfield
Obviously originality in physics is age related, but that is just a side effect when it comes to the gate keepers being tiresomely set in their ways. The reason for that is explained by Jerry Pournelle's iron law. Pournelle's Iron Law of Bureaucracy states that in any bureaucratic

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion on Wikipedia japanes and chinese

2013-09-25 Thread James Bowery
To get back on track: Yes the Jasons started out as a way for young men to breakthrough the bureaucratic types and yes the Jasons has now been occupied by the likes of Nate Lewis, who was listed as third author of the Jasons report: Reducing DoD Fossil-Fuel