RE: [Vo]:Piantelli's group gets its act togetherJones--
The stability of the H(-1) ion may be quite stable in a strong magnetic field
which would support the formation and stability of paired electrons.
Bob Cook
From: Jones Beene
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 7:01 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.co
Bob Higgins--
I do not see how the Hydrogen anion H(-1) can act like a muon. It is a
composite of a proton and two electrons in a cloud around the + charge—the
proton. It would seem to act as a negative point charge like a muon is. As we
know paired electrons happen readily. It may be that
In reply to Bob Higgins's message of Tue, 22 Dec 2015 09:40:07 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
>Once formed, a hypothetical f/H hydrogen anion would be almost sure to
>cause a nuclear reaction - it is at least 3x heaver than a muon and will
>approach the nucleus that much more closely.
Make that about 9 times
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Tue, 22 Dec 2015 09:22:55 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
>From: Bob Higgins
>
>* Given the recent discussion of Holmlid, it makes me wonder if the the
>proton ejection branch could be from sudden breakup of the hydrogen anion
>electron shielding from deep within the
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Tue, 22 Dec 2015 09:59:12 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
>From: Bob Higgins
>
>* Jones, I think you may be wrong about this. If an f/H anion existed,
>it would be a very heavy negatively charged body, like a muon but heavier. As
>it approached a Ni atom, it would
Clearly psychology of groups, epistemology, sociology, ethnology of
science, will consider Cold Fusion fiasco as a key event in history, like
the story of germs, og geocentrisms, of Malthusianism, of creationism, and
of some current stories (maybe correlated).
If you (re-)read the book "Excess Hea
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Tue, 22 Dec 2015 08:05:15 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
>A good explanation for most of the thermal gain is not fusion but as you
>stated previously - ejection of a fast proton. This could be the result of SPP
>disruption of the temporary stability.
>
>
>
>As to what
On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
https://aeon.co/essays/why-do-scientists-dismiss-the-possibility-of-cold-fusion
>
I like the essay by Huw Price a lot. He has a great attitude.
Philosophers of science and sociologists are in a good position to light a
fire under intransigent
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/12/dec-22-2015-lenr-errors-some-possible.html
I have to add that it is about non-creative ewrrors
also that it is cold but the LENR info sources are not frozen
peter
--
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
From: Bob Higgins
* Jones, I think you may be wrong about this. If an f/H anion existed,
it would be a very heavy negatively charged body, like a muon but heavier. As
it approached a Ni atom, it would experience no force since the Ni electrons
screen the Ni nuclear charge.
I wrote:
This is the typical energy of a particle that is expelled from a nucleus.
> That suggests that the hydrogen anion would have to attain nuclear
> separations, e.g., ~ 1 fm.
>
In addition, there is an interesting calculation that can be done which
gives the maximum charge density that will
On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 10:25 AM, Bob Higgins
wrote:
How close would the hydrogen nucleus have to get to the Ni nucleus to
> release 6 MeV in Coulombic repulsion? It would be an interesting
> calculation.
>
This is the typical energy of a particle that is expelled from a nucleus.
That suggests
From: Bob Higgins
* Given the recent discussion of Holmlid, it makes me wonder if the the
proton ejection branch could be from sudden breakup of the hydrogen anion
electron shielding from deep within the Ni atom, causing sudden Coulombic
repulsion of the proton.
Yes. This makes much m
What Piantelli did not know and what Holmlid now tells us is that muon
production happens in LENR. Piantelli just invented a muon like mechanism
that was not needed because real muons are produced from meson decay.
High temperature condensation will occur in a EMF based quasiparticle with
little o
Jones, I think you may be wrong about this. If an f/H anion existed, it
would be a very heavy negatively charged body, like a muon but heavier. As
it approached a Ni atom, it would experience no force since the Ni
electrons screen the Ni nuclear charge. The f/H anion would enter the Ni
atom and
My understanding (could be a mistaken impression) is that Piantelli thought
of the Ni transmutation and high energy proton emission as two separate
branches of the reaction. I gathered that he thought about it this way for
lack of evidence of what the actual reaction was. He saw what he believed
Bob,
A compact f/H anion as it approaches a nickel atom, would experience Coulomb
repulsion, obviously – but that can be balanced against much stronger magnetic
attraction of the reduced orbital at a few picometers (if we accept dense
hydrogen). At some point, the f/H ion would find temporar
On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Bob Higgins
wrote:
It [the H- anion] quickly decends the electron shells to close proximity to
> the nucleus, wherein something nuclear happens. This produces a Ni
> transmutation reaction branch and a high energy (6 MeV as I recall) proton
> ejection branch.
>
I asked Piantelli about how the hydrogen anion could enter a Ni atom and
approach the nucleus so closely when the anion itself is so big. In my
thinking, if the anion had not become some type of compact body, it would
have experienced Coulombic repulsion long before the hydrogen nucleus ever
close
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1B6oiLNyKKI
From: Bob Higgins
Bob Cook wrote: One interesting item that Piantelli noted was important in the
90’s was the existence of a H(-1) ion.…
BH: Piantelli believes that the hydrogen anion is complicit in Ni-H LENR. He
believes that the anion on the surface of his Ni rod is absorbed into a metal
It should be tested for gravity shielding properties..a magnetoelectret.
Respectfully,
Ron Kita, Chiralex
Doylestown PA
Dr Edward Teller would have loved this material.
On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 1:59 AM, Axil Axil wrote:
> The item that gives LENR its magic is the monopole magnetic field that
> ce
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