Re: [VO]: Hydrogen outlook?

2007-08-28 Thread Esa Ruoho
new videos from ravi raju: 1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMSUe76PZLQ 2) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taFrw3xxDow (48minutes ago ;) ) http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=raviwfc enjoy. the thread seems to be moving on too http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3079

Re: [VO]: Hydrogen outlook?

2007-08-27 Thread Horace Heffner
On Aug 26, 2007, at 6:31 PM, R.C.Macaulay wrote: Horace wrote, The idea is to apply a very sharp square wave to a long thin tube of liquid material and measure the waveform that comes out the other end. It is then just a matter of building a database using samples of known materials. It

Fwd: [VO]: Hydrogen outlook?

2007-08-27 Thread Esa Ruoho
-- Forwarded message -- From: Ravi Raju Date: 27-Aug-2007 12:04 Subject: Re: [VO]: Hydrogen outlook? To: Esa Ruoho [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Esa, Thanks for creating interest in the replication. On saturday night I had checked for the glow Dave had mentioned sometime ago. Well

Re: [VO]: Hydrogen outlook?

2007-08-27 Thread Horace Heffner
On Aug 26, 2007, at 6:31 PM, R.C.Macaulay wrote: Horace wrote, The idea is to apply a very sharp square wave to a long thin tube of liquid material and measure the waveform that comes out the other end. It is then just a matter of building a database using samples of known materials. It

Re: [VO]: Hydrogen outlook?

2007-08-26 Thread Horace Heffner
On Aug 25, 2007, at 12:36 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: If they claimed the rate of gas evolution was higher than the input _power_ could account for that would also be interesting. But they don't -- they claim it's higher than the Faradic rate, which is based on the CURRENT ALONE.

RE: [VO]: Hydrogen outlook?

2007-08-26 Thread Stiffler Scientific
, yet it results in some very interesting observation in production. -Original Message- From: Horace Heffner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 1:03 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [VO]: Hydrogen outlook? On Aug 25, 2007, at 12:36 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote

Re: [VO]: Hydrogen outlook?

2007-08-26 Thread R.C.Macaulay
Stiffler wrote.. These resistive effects are seen as -R and only happen in properly pulsed systems and properly designed electrode configurations. Negative resistance can be experienced at a third electrode by what I currently believe is some type of electron tunneling that I do not at this

RE: [VO]: Hydrogen outlook?

2007-08-26 Thread Stiffler Scientific
better than what I have. Tip one for me -Original Message- From: R.C.Macaulay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 11:37 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [VO]: Hydrogen outlook? Stiffler wrote.. These resistive effects are seen as -R and only happen

RE: [VO]: Hydrogen outlook?

2007-08-26 Thread Stiffler Scientific
it somewhat clear. -Original Message- From: Stiffler Scientific [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 12:06 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [VO]: Hydrogen outlook? Richard said: Hmm.. thinking about imposing a vacuum and/or a separate sonic transponder adjustable

Re: [VO]: Hydrogen outlook?

2007-08-26 Thread Horace Heffner
On Aug 26, 2007, at 9:06 AM, Stiffler Scientific wrote: A conversion (in some) way takes place by interaction of this control electrode and the ions which allow electrons to flow in the control electrode without gas production. There appears to be what? (an increase of electrons) or some

Re: [VO]: Hydrogen outlook?

2007-08-26 Thread Edmund Storms
Hi Horace, The reason the conduction of water is said to be caused by ions is because pure water is essentially an insulator. In fact, the purity of water is normally measured by measuring its conductivity. As for the speed of ions, an individual ion moves only a very short distance. This is

RE: [VO]: Hydrogen outlook?

2007-08-26 Thread Stiffler Scientific
and not energy. -Original Message- From: Edmund Storms [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 2:01 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [VO]: Hydrogen outlook? Hi Horace, The reason the conduction of water is said to be caused by ions is because pure water is essentially

Re: [VO]: Hydrogen outlook?

2007-08-26 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Stiffler Scientific's message of Sun, 26 Aug 2007 12:30:53 -0500: Hi, [snip] I was not clear on this below @@ Eg - energy gain This is not to be considered Power, rather it is -I or negative current that exceeds input and can be used to do a secondary operation. I also should have

Re: [VO]: Hydrogen outlook?

2007-08-26 Thread Edmund Storms
. -Original Message- From: Edmund Storms [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 2:01 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [VO]: Hydrogen outlook? Hi Horace, The reason the conduction of water is said to be caused by ions is because pure water is essentially an insulator

RE: [VO]: Hydrogen outlook?

2007-08-26 Thread StifflerScientific
... -Original Message- From: Edmund Storms [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 5:49 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [VO]: Hydrogen outlook? Hi Richard, The diagram you give is similar to how a vacuum tube would be configured. Unfortunately, no relationship exists between

Re: [VO]: Hydrogen outlook?

2007-08-26 Thread Horace Heffner
On Aug 26, 2007, at 11:00 AM, Edmund Storms wrote: Hi Horace, The reason the conduction of water is said to be caused by ions is because pure water is essentially an insulator. In fact, the purity of water is normally measured by measuring its conductivity. As for the speed of ions, an

Re: [VO]: Hydrogen outlook?

2007-08-26 Thread Horace Heffner
On Aug 26, 2007, at 11:49 AM, Stiffler Scientific wrote: If either of you wish, I think it would clear up the idea of the 'third electrode'. It is indeed not as its being thought of here. The circuit is www.stifflerscientific.com/images/cre_sc.jpg I think it is in my case. Here is a

Re: [VO]: Hydrogen outlook?

2007-08-26 Thread R.C.Macaulay
Horace wrote.. the force would have to be transmitted from one to the next in a chain reaction wave like scenario which is dependent or particle mass. This doesn't happen, at least not to a large extent - though I did actually see to a small extent the momentum related kinds of traces I

Re: [VO]: Hydrogen outlook?

2007-08-26 Thread Horace Heffner
On Aug 26, 2007, at 5:46 PM, R.C.Macaulay wrote: Horace wrote.. the force would have to be transmitted from one to the next in a chain reaction wave like scenario which is dependent or particle mass. This doesn't happen, at least not to a large extent - though I did actually see to a small

Re: [VO]: Hydrogen outlook?

2007-08-26 Thread R.C.Macaulay
Horace wrote, The idea is to apply a very sharp square wave to a long thin tube of liquid material and measure the waveform that comes out the other end. It is then just a matter of building a database using samples of known materials. It might be useful as a cheap preliminary screening

Re: [VO]: Hydrogen outlook?

2007-08-26 Thread Esa Ruoho
the updated instructions on the Dave Lawton replication that Ravi Raju has created. http://panaceauniversity.org/D14.pdf do enjoy

[VO]: Hydrogen outlook?

2007-08-25 Thread R.C.Macaulay
BlankHowdy Vorts, The increase in research and experiments surrounding methods for producing hydrogen is beginning to feed on itself. What form and at what speed do you forecast the application of hydrogen for energy? Richard Blank Bkgrd.gif

Re: [VO]: Hydrogen outlook?

2007-08-25 Thread PHILIP WINESTONE
Richard, ...feed on itself... Does that answer your question? P. - Original Message From: R.C.Macaulay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 8:42:52 AM Subject: [VO]: Hydrogen outlook? Blank BODY { MARGIN-TOP:25px;FONT-SIZE:10pt;MARGIN-LEFT:25px

Re: [VO]: Hydrogen outlook?

2007-08-25 Thread Esa Ruoho
check out the ravi raju replication of dave lawton replication of stanley meyer water fuel cell. http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Water_Fuel_Cell oh and hes been attacked too: http://panacea-bocaf.org/EngineerinIndia.htm but public information drop via panacea and youtube seemed to make it all

Re: [VO]: Hydrogen outlook?

2007-08-25 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Esa Ruoho wrote: check out the ravi raju replication of dave lawton replication of stanley meyer water fuel cell. http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Water_Fuel_Cell Among other things, it says: ... demonstrated gas evolution at 0.2 Amps (12v) in distilled water with no electrolyte. This is

Re: [VO]: Hydrogen outlook?

2007-08-25 Thread R.C.Macaulay
Stephen wrote.. If they claimed the rate of gas evolution was higher than the input _power_ could account for that would also be interesting. But they don't -- they claim it's higher than the Faradic rate. Until the evolved gas volume is too large to be accounted for by the input POWER

Re: [VO]: Hydrogen outlook?

2007-08-25 Thread Jones Beene
Stephen, There are a number of details to the Ravi/Lawton/Meyer device which you should know. The 12 volts is split between 9 tubes in series, so the volts per tube is 1.33 v. or less. The measured current is DC - but that is current to the frequency generator, and it is being done this