Re: [Vo]:[JONP] About Leonardo Corp. property + end of partnership with NI

2012-02-22 Thread Wolf Fischer
Turns out there seems to be another side to the story (again): http://e-catsite.com/2012/02/21/ni-corroborates-rossi-statements/ Betts confirms that the partnership has ended. She however also confirms Rossis statements on how the relation between both parties has been. Further, the term

RE: [Vo]:[JONP] About Leonardo Corp. property + end of partnership with NI

2012-02-22 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
that is unlikely since their products tend to be quite pricey, and Rossi wants to keep the price as low as possible. -Mark From: Wolf Fischer [mailto:wolffisc...@gmx.de] Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 3:56 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:[JONP] About Leonardo Corp. property + end

Re: [Vo]:[JONP] About Leonardo Corp. property + end of partnership with NI

2012-02-22 Thread Michele Comitini
Who is the new supplier? Ti? BTW I find strange that a customer has such decisional power on a corporate business. Does that imply that if a bigger customer comes they would change their supplier? No it probably means that the customer has become more a owner... mic Il 22 febbraio 2012

Re: [Vo]:[JONP] About Leonardo Corp. property + end of partnership with NI

2012-02-22 Thread Alain Sepeda
in real big business customers can be the real bosses. they are not selling potatoes, and even a farmer that sell potatoes to MacDonald can be frced to follow some advices and prcesses to reach the client needs... partnership with the provider is the secret of some big industrial sucesses, like

Re: [Vo]:[JONP] About Leonardo Corp. property + end of partnership with NI

2012-02-22 Thread Michele Comitini
I agree on vegetable market, or established industrial processes where competition is high. Not for a company that should sell an highly needed revolutionary product the functioning of which is secret, a black box, that has virtually no competitor. IMHO that decisional power is given by

Re: [Vo]:[JONP] About Leonardo Corp. property + end of partnership with NI

2012-02-22 Thread Harry Veeder
Either Rossi is losing control of his ecat or he is learning to collaborate. Harry On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Michele Comitini michele.comit...@gmail.com wrote: Who is the new supplier? Ti? BTW I find strange that a customer has such decisional power on a corporate business.  Does

Re: [Vo]:[JONP] About Leonardo Corp. property + end of partnership with NI

2012-02-20 Thread Terry Blanton
From Rossi: Also our Customer has chosen other suppliers for the first generation of the domestic E-Cats and of the 1 MW plants. It is possible that a simple PLC/PAC could have been chosen. I don't think stabilization would be that big a challenge. All Rossi needed was some feedback. T

Re: [Vo]:[JONP] About Leonardo Corp. property + end of partnership with NI

2012-02-20 Thread Wolf Fischer
Some weeks ago, Rossi said that NI, he and the customer were working together on the 1MW plant. And now the customer wants something different? Why change a running system (if it ever was running)? And why is it important to the customer, which company supplies the controlling mechanism for a

Re: [Vo]:[JONP] About Leonardo Corp. property + end of partnership with NI

2012-02-20 Thread Terry Blanton
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Wolf Fischer wolffisc...@gmx.de wrote: Some weeks ago, Rossi said that NI, he and the customer were working together on the 1MW plant. And now the customer wants something different? Why change a running system (if it ever was running)? And why is it important

Re: [Vo]:[JONP] About Leonardo Corp. property + end of partnership with NI

2012-02-20 Thread Robert Lynn
I knew a pathological liar when I was younger, she was one of the smartest people I have ever met, but would lie to no benefit other than to make herself look better or garner sympathy from the bad things she said had happened to her. I didn't realise it at first, thinking she had had a lot of

Re: [Vo]:[JONP] About Leonardo Corp. property + end of partnership with NI

2012-02-20 Thread Terry Blanton
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 8:58 AM, Robert Lynn robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com wrote: So what is going on? Why are they isolating the reactor?  Are they trying to hide a performance short-fall too? It is getting very frustrating. PDGT will demonstrate their reactor generates heat whereas a

Re: [Vo]:[JONP] About Leonardo Corp. property + end of partnership with NI

2012-02-20 Thread Axil Axil
Some weeks ago, Rossi said that NI, he and the customer were working together on the 1MW plant. And now the customer wants something different? Why change a running system (if it ever was running)? And why is it important to the customer, which company supplies the controlling mechanism for a

Re: [Vo]:[JONP] About Leonardo Corp. property + end of partnership with NI

2012-02-20 Thread Patrick Ellul
If you were Rossi and were 1000% convinced that it's all good to go, and you only needed another 12-18 months to start shipping, wouldn't you try to keep everything under wraps and obfuscate where possible? There's nothing to gain, and IP to lose, by giving even the slightest thing away. That's

[Vo]:[JONP] About Leonardo Corp. property + end of partnership with NI

2012-02-19 Thread Michele Comitini
From JONP http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=580cpage=4#comment-187119. By the way is there anywhere a more accurate business directory than this for NH? https://www.sos.nh.gov/corporate/soskb/Corp.asp?414253 Lu Fong February 19th, 2012 at 2:15 PM Dear Andrea Rossi, I am watching

Re: [Vo]:[JONP] About Leonardo Corp. property + end of partnership with NI

2012-02-19 Thread Susanna Gipp
End of Partnership? Which one? LOL As far as we know, it has not even started. In my opinion he just got in touch with the local italian dealer, browsed the product catalogue, made a lot of chatters as he loves to, received a quote, got scared and ran away. The length of his answer on JoNP,