It is unfortunate that Mr. Rossi did not use all three cores of his ECAT for
the October 6, 2011 test. The results would have indicated at least 2 times
the observed energy production.
I have completed an extensive review of the data collected during that October
6 test and it is apparent
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 10:35 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
It is unfortunate that Mr. Rossi did not use all three cores of his ECAT
for the October 6, 2011 test. The results would have indicated at least
2 times the observed energy production.
I have completed an extensive
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On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 10:35 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
It is unfortunate that Mr. Rossi did not use all three cores of his ECAT for
the October 6, 2011 test
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 11:13 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
I expect a lot of people witnessing the operation of a 470 kW cold fusion
system would be dazzled. Some can not be dazzled at all by any means.
Those not dazzled by this are missing history unfold before them.
Why
If Rossi did use three cores (assuming he didn't before):
The energy output may increase, but we'd still still be without any method to
acually measure it, because of his calorimetry.
The energy consumed would have tripled, too, with a zero-net-gain possibility
still on the table.
The October
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From: Robert Leguillon robert.leguil...@hotmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, Nov 17, 2011 2:32 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]: ECAT With 3 Cores Would Have Been Convincing
If Rossi did use three cores (assuming he didn't before):
he energy output may increase, but we'd still still
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 3:29 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
It is clear to me that Rossi does not want it to be easy to determine.
At least, in that, he succeeds.
But, the results of this test speak for themselves.
But like you just said, they don't speak clearly. Actually,
/snip/
Actually, there is no reason to believe that it will require additional input
energy to activate the 2 extra cores. He has a COP of 6 when all are used which
results in an output of 1558 * 6 = 9348 each ECAT of 107 total. I used the test
data to determine that this was entirely in line
By reactance, I misspoke, meaning impedance, but you get the point.
If each wafer has its own core heater, the input current would have to triple
to support three cells.
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:40:24 -0600
Subject: Re: [Vo]: ECAT With 3 Cores Would Have Been Convincing
From: robert.leguil
David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
It is clear to me that Rossi does not want it to be easy to determine.
Everyone needs to understand that. He is using misdirection to his
advantage.
I believe he does use misdirection, but in this case I'm pretty sure he
just did not want the thing
you stand?
Dave
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From: Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, Nov 17, 2011 4:39 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]: ECAT With 3 Cores Would Have Been Convincing
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 3:29 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote
robert.leguil...@hotmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, Nov 17, 2011 4:50 pm
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/snip/
Actually, there is no reason to believe that it will require additional input
nergy to activate the 2 extra cores. He has a COP of 6 when
David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
Why the relatively short test?
That, I know the answer to. Rossi stopped the test because the people
observing it asked him to stop it. They wanted to look inside. Also, it was
late in the day and they had to go.
It was rather difficult to stop, as
With 3 Cores Would Have Been Convincing
By reactance, I misspoke, meaning impedance, but you get the point.
If each wafer has its own core heater, the input current would have to triple
to support three cells.
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:40:24 -0600
Subject: Re: [Vo]: ECAT With 3 Cores Would Have
for several seconds to the steering.
Dave
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From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, Nov 17, 2011 4:59 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]: ECAT With 3 Cores Would Have Been Convincing
David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
It is clear to me
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
During the 18 hour test in February, the machine clearly went out of
control. If I had something like that I would not run it as hot as it can
go. In this case, running with only one cell enabled produces a clear
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 4:03 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
I do not think anyone could say that it is not possible to make a
sophisticated scam of an ECAT. Rossi has helped the skeptical among us by
allowing this to be the case.
Do you honestly think that he is not aware of
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
Why the relatively short test?
That, I know the answer to. Rossi stopped the test because the people
observing it asked him to stop it. They wanted to look inside. Also, it
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
It is clear to me that Rossi does not want it to be easy to determine.
Everyone needs to understand that. He is using misdirection to his
advantage.
During the 18 hour
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 2:03 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
Some others hope that the ECAT is a scam, especially those who make a
living based upon industries that will be replaced.
I have no relationship with any industry that wouldn't be helped rather
than hindered by the
If it's a scam, the way Rossi will have brought out the E-cat will be
discussed for a long time for it's stupidity and lack of concern for the
well-being of the civilization.
Ooops... pressed the button too quickly. If it' NOT a scam, etc. etc.
Very sorry for the extra post. Will be more
snip...From: Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com
Second, what's to stop him from doing the pre-heating overnight, and getting
started at 7 am. These guys are professionals; they won't mind getting up
early. It's true, you might want a witness to measure the input energy, but if
it runs long
I believe that he was recommending warming up the E-Cats before most of the
reporters show up, with minimal supervision, if their time is too precious.
It was not a theory on what may have occurred, merely a suggestion on what
could occur to avail a longer (and hence more conclusive) run time.
David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
Please explain why it too so long for the temperature to read an elevated
value during the October 28 test if the ECATs had been preheated?
As noted that was just Cude's suggestion. He did not pre-heat it. The
reactor vessel had no water in it when the
Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, Nov 17, 2011 10:52 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]: ECAT With 3 Cores Would Have Been Convincing
David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
Please explain why it too so long for the temperature to read an elevated value
during
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 9:24 PM, Robert Leguillon
robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote:
I believe that he was recommending warming up the E-Cats before most of
the reporters show up, with minimal supervision, if their time is too
precious.
It was not a theory on what may have occurred, merely
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 10:59 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
I think that they are in fact screaming that it was heated ahead of time.
But think about it Dave. Even if Rossi has not invented a new source
of energy, he has done something just as phenomenal!
Rossi has created the
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 11:14 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
If the skeptics are right, we are saved, still!
And, thank G-d, we did not have to violate any thermodynamic laws. PTL!
T
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 9:49 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
If he had actually pre-heated it, the skeptics would all be screaming that
he magically stored up the heat in advance.
Well yes, that would have to be taken in to account. There's nothing magic
about storing heat. But
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 10:14 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
We can use Rossi's invention to gather the heat of the
sun during the day and release it at night!
Sorry, nature has beat Rossi to it. That already happens. The ground and
water absorb heat in the day and release it
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 11:28 PM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote:
(We have also
suggested chemical reactions.)
Is this the royal We? Are you nobility? Is so, I will offer due
respect; but, you appear to use a pseudonym, which, BTW, the list
owner frowns upon.
You could be MaryYugo
CAT With 3 Cores Would Have Been Convincing
From: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, November 18, 2011 2:16 pm
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 11:14 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
If the skeptics are right, we are saved, still!
And, thank G-d, we did not have
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 11:37 PM, Craig Brown cr...@overunity.co wrote:
There are only a small handful of what I would fairly term sceptics left
in the world. The rest who display a clear establishment bias have an
agenda to derail and mock legitimate LENR research. MaryYugo as a prime
technologies.Mentioning Pink Invisible Flying Unicorns and a liberal sprinkling of references to James Randi, Carl Tilley etc etc, blah blah blah...
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Subject: Re: [Vo]: ECAT With 3 Cores Would Have Been Convincing
From: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, November 18
: Re: [Vo]: ECAT With 3 Cores Would Have Been Convincing
From: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, November 18, 2011 2:44 pm
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 11:37 PM, Craig Brown cr...@overunity.co wrote:
There are only a small handful of what I would fairly term
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 8:58 PM, Craig Brown cr...@overunity.co wrote:
Pseudosceptics is a better term to be honest. The ones who dispaly bizarre
behaviour. Like how they are obsessed with protecting the financial
interests of investers whom they've never met and are overtly concerned
with
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