Re: [Vo]: Jed's Edict

2006-09-30 Thread John Berry
The answer is either free energy devices or solar, wind, wave, tide etc.. generators and then rather than scrapping cars make a synthetic fuel:http://jlnlabs.online.fr/bingofuel/html/bfr10.htm Encourage full electric and as an alternative hybrid, and for those unable to switch to more efficient

Re: [Vo]: Jed's Edict

2006-09-30 Thread Harry Veeder
Robin van Spaandonk wrote: In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Wed, 27 Sep 2006 13:10:09 -0400: Hi, [snip] The overall total energy produced by wind is the same as the total energy from sunlight, which is no coincidence, as Deffeyes pointed out. This is trivially false. The wind is

Re: [Vo]: Jed's Edict

2006-09-29 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Wed, 27 Sep 2006 13:10:09 -0400: Hi, [snip] The overall total energy produced by wind is the same as the total energy from sunlight, which is no coincidence, as Deffeyes pointed out. This is trivially false. The wind is the result of a heat engine, and no

Re: [Vo]: Jed's Edict

2006-09-28 Thread Taylor J. Smith
Jed wrote: If this truly is a war, and we really want to win it ... Hi All, Apparently we don't want to win it. What would American victories do to the price of oil? On the surface, the incompetent conduct of this war is inexplicable; but the owners of oil wells are going laughing to the

Re: [Vo]: Jed's Edict

2006-09-28 Thread thomas malloy
Taylor J. Smith wrote: Jed wrote: If this truly is a war, and we really want to win it ... Hi All, Apparently we don't want to win it. What would American victories do to the price of oil? On the surface, the incompetent conduct of this war is inexplicable; but the owners of oil wells are

Re: [Vo]: Jed's Edict

2006-09-27 Thread thomas malloy
Mike Carrell wrote: - Original Message - From: Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Vo]: Aquaculture for energy Jones Beene wrote: Make no small plans, sez me. This would also drastically reduce CO2 emissions, which NASA and the Japanese press have headlined today. -

Re: [Vo]: Jed's Edict

2006-09-27 Thread Jed Rothwell
Let us put this in perspective. On Sept. 11, 2006, Bush said: The war against this enemy is more than a military conflict. It is the decisive ideological struggle of the 21st century, and the calling of our generation. I do not agree with that statement, but if I were president and I

Re: [Vo]: Jed's Edict

2006-09-27 Thread Jed Rothwell
thomas malloy wrote: keep coming back to our being able to run the country on the biodiesel produced on 61,000 square miles of algae ponds in the deserts. I recall that ~10,000 square miles of solar thermal generators could supply all of the energy in the U.S., not just liquid fuel. I will

Re: [Vo]: Jed's Edict

2006-09-27 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: The war against this enemy is more than a military conflict. It is the decisive ideological struggle of the 21st century, and the calling of our generation. I do not agree with that statement, but if I were president and I sincerely believed that, then I would consider closing down the

Re: [Vo]: Jed's Edict

2006-09-27 Thread Jeff and Dorothy Kooistra
Jed said: If this truly is a war, and we really want to win it, we should go all out, institute a draft, institute 90% income taxes and a $5 emergency gasoline tax, Why punish ourselves? If we really want to win as you put it, we simply stop worrying about civilian casualties in iraq and,

RE: [Vo]: Jed's Edict

2006-09-27 Thread John Steck
, September 27, 2006 11:16 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]: Jed's Edict Mike Carrell wrote: - Original Message - From: Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Vo]: Aquaculture for energy Jones Beene wrote: Make no small plans, sez me. This would also drastically

[Vo]: Jed's Edict

2006-09-26 Thread Mike Carrell
- Original Message - From: Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Vo]: Aquaculture for energy Jones Beene wrote: Pretty fair credentials, I'd say... and he is right-on about the need to move immediately into energy-aquaculture. Well, if it works, okay -- maybe. But as I

Re: [Vo]: Jed's Edict

2006-09-26 Thread OrionWorks
Mike Carrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... The only long term hope I see in all this is in the BLP technology. Mike Carrell Speaking of BLP, I haven't heard a peep out of them for months now. Anybody know what's going on there? I'd like to think all this silence is due to the fact