In reply to Willis Jenkin's message of Sat, 5 Aug 2006 14:55:44
-0700:
Hi Willis,
[snip]
Robin!
On your response to my posting on some in the field using pulsed DC and
still obtaining gas production (H2, O2), below 1.2V, please be assured that
it was not measured with a DC volt meter, more
On 8/2/06, Willis Jenkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Teflon pan may not be the best of containers to try your test in, I
might suggest a liter beaker or some HDPE container. What I have observed is
that a passive metal container is part of the circuit, if connected or not.
Over the years many
Robin!
On your response to my posting on some in the field using pulsed DC and
still obtaining gas production (H2, O2), below 1.2V, please be assured that
it was not measured with a DC volt meter, more like a $25K US Tek Scope and
followed with a standard formula of Vrms=Sqrt(y/x)* Vp, where
In reply to Willis Jenkin's message of Wed, 2 Aug 2006 12:34:36
-0700:
Hi,
[snip]
I must say that when you do not see gas being evolved that you are working
closer to strickly ohmic conduction versus ionic. Also you will not be able
to stop gas once you exceed as Robin stated ~ 1.2V. Although
Terry wrote:
We will start with his oldest vehicle which he can no longer
depreciate. He knows the risks. The rewards far outweigh his risk.
Even a 10% improvement pays back in a little over a year.
I mainly want to see if there's any difference due to charging.
Terry/Jones (no Python
I have a copy of a Russian paper on a new physical method of
disinfection of water that addresses a portion of the
magnetic water theme. I will send a jpg to anyone that
wishes to read it.
Richard,
Can you drop me a copy, please?
[Sorry to mail this to list, rather than privately, but my
Terry,
Gee, I don't see how you can get 50 mA with 12 VDC with neat
water.
I'm only getting 1.1 mA with 9 VDC. Larger surface area?
The cell Patrick is talking about has only two or three neutral
plates - you have 16 total - 14 neutral, correct? Your
plate-to-plate voltage drop in tiny.
I went over our 12 plate (~ 1.0 cm spacing) with my cohort/lackey with
a starting voltage of about 9 volts at 1.6 ma on the rechargeable power
unit there
were small bubbles on the water-plastic interface near the anode plate too.
The rechargeable dc supply was brought up to ~ 13 vdc and the
On 8/2/06, Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
With 16 plates you can probably use 20 volts. Do you have a
wall-wart near that level? Some of the HP large block transformers
that they used to sell with their printers are 24 volts ... What
about using two wall-warts in series? you have so many
On 8/2/06, Willis Jenkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What ever this may be worth, otherwise sorry for taking your time.
No no!! This is just the information we need. I love it when a
lurker joins in. I'm getting bored talking to the same old farts.
;-)
Do you have a picture of your setup?
Terry
I've found a volunteer to test the final hydrobooster in one of
his
fleet vehicles which gets 17.1 mpg. He said if I can get a 30%
boost
in his mileage, I can do all his fleet for $600 each.
Whoa... that might be a bit hasty. I think you will see a 30%
boost if the device is
I promise not to be a lurking pest, so I will impart a few more caveats
before moving back into the shadows.
I'm sure you all know that the current increase is not a linear function, it
increases in steps, you will add voltage and see very little difference and
then bam! up a few or 10's of mA.
On 8/2/06, Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Whoa... that might be a bit hasty. I think you will see a 30%
boost if the device is properly built and sized, etc. but there
are so many unanswered questions about long term corrosion, etc.
John Steck mentioned this briefly. If the valves go
WJ's setup is here:
http://geocities.com/terry1094/wtrchg.jpg
Willis,
How long have you been charging in this photo? Is there an
electrolyte? If so, what kind (NaCl, KOH, etc)? Voltage and current?
TIA
Terry
On 8/2/06, Willis Jenkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here is a simple unit, 500ml
Terry
Willis already answered your questions in the same post ... must
be a hot afternoon in Hot-lanta... g
Here is a simple unit, 500ml distilled (farm grade), 12mm carbon
cathode, two 2mm SS rod anodes. Input voltage 4.6V at 6.4mA.
That seems to prove his point about carbon being
On 8/2/06, Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Terry
Willis already answered your questions in the same post ... must
be a hot afternoon in Hot-lanta... g
Yeah, and since Iana.org took over the Inet, nothing has been right.
However, I have some bad news. I tested experimental and control
If any of you are going to work with carbon (graphite) rods, save some
money, this is where we obtain them.
http://www.graphitestore.com/cat.asp/spcat_id/1
Ok, darn... so Terry is telling me that the exposiveness in a
microwave oven of my charged water is due only to the small NaCl
content. If 100% true, that makes it slightly less interesting in
a way, but that does not account for the much greater amount of
gas derived from this water during
On 8/2/06, Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Still hopeful that Terry can make some unsalted BAM water ...
It's still chargin'!
BTW, Blanton distilleries make some premium bourbon:
http://www.blantonsbourbon.com
But don't snipe at that:
This is a reply from Frank Grimer, whose mail is getting bounced
from Vo again, so he has sent it to me to post ...
hmm... our Petrocracy at work, or theirs ?
[when you thing about the tax revenue on Petrol in the UK,
vis-a-vis other revenue, the Ministers there probably fear
This is another reply from Frank Grimer, whose email to Vo is
getting bounced again in cyberspace - between the UK and USA - so
he has sent it to me to post ... [guess the powers-that-be
...consider moi, i.e. present-company to be more in the genre of
court-jester than bona-fide threat ... as
Howdy Vorts,
I have acopy of a Russian paperon a new physical method of
disinfection of water that addresses a portion of the magnetic water theme. I
will send a jpg to anyone that wishes to read it.
Richard
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