.
>> Instead, the electron charge must be stretched out over its three
>> dimensional path.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: H Veeder
>> To: vortex-l
>> Sent: Wed, Aug 7, 2013 12:08 am
>> Subject: Re: [Vo]:I
work, you must give up the concept
> of a point sized electron charge in motion around the nucleus. Instead,
> the electron charge must be stretched out over its three dimensional path.
>
> Dave
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: H Veeder
> To: vortex-l
>
: [Vo]:ICCF18 Kim Slides
It could be that charge as a static entity is fundamentally an illusion.
Perhaps it is a useful illusion, but it is still an illusion.
Notice that the coulomb, the unit of charge, is defined in terms of Amperes X
Seconds.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coulomb
Perhaps
far field is seen. Perhaps something of this nature occurs
> with an atom and the orbiting electron.
>
> Dave
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Roarty, Francis X
> To: vortex-l
> Cc: puthoff
> Sent: Mon, Aug 5, 2013 9:32 am
> Subject: RE: [Vo]:ICCF18 Ki
:51 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:ICCF18 Kim Slides
On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 3:21 AM, MarkI-ZeroPoint
wrote:
> Under normal/usual circumstances, when the atom enters the narrow
> Casimir channel it gives up some of its E to the ZPF, and when it
> exits, it 'springs b
On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 3:21 AM, MarkI-ZeroPoint wrote:
> Under normal/usual circumstances, when the atom enters the narrow Casimir
> channel it gives up some of its E to the ZPF, and when it exits, it ‘springs
> back’ to normal ground-state -- NO overall gain or loss; COE still intact
> and we’re
feature of quantum ground states.
[/snip]
Fran
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From: MarkI-ZeroPoint [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net]
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2013 12:35 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:ICCF18 Kim Slides
Dammit Fran, ya made me leave the Dimebox
: Mon, Aug 5, 2013 9:32 am
Subject: RE: [Vo]:ICCF18 Kim Slides
Mark,
Just finished Puthoff’s 2012 paper and although I like his conclusion below I
still feel he is avoiding giving credit to the creation and annihilation of
pairs as powering all atomic and subatomic motion, he refers to a
therefore constitutes an important feature of
> quantum ground states. [/snip] .
> Fran
>
> _
> *From:* MarkI-ZeroPoint [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net]
>
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 04, 2013 12:35 PM
> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:ICCF18 Kim S
of quantum ground states. [/snip] .
Fran
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From: MarkI-ZeroPoint [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net]
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2013 12:35 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:ICCF18 Kim Slides
Dammit Fran, ya made me leave the Dimebox
arty.biz]
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 7:13 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:ICCF18 Kim Slides
Mark, I think Puthoff fell short in suggesting ZPE keeps the electron and
nucleus spatially separated.. Jan Naudts 2005 paper on relativistic hydrogen
suggests f/h is relativistic bas
by Jones!
Fran
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From: MarkI-ZeroPoint [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net]
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 1:04 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:ICCF18 Kim Slides
Jones/Fran,
Wish I had time to read more; my vortex folder has 560 unread msgs! This
may have been sugges
On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 1:03 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint wrote:
>
> I think it was Puthoff who suggested that a continual interaction (xchng of
> E?) between the ZPF and electrons is what maintains them at some distance
> from the nucleus. Well, when atoms find themselves in a Casimir cavity,
> and
> som
ehind the 8-ball on this?
Has this been proposed yet?
-Mark Iverson
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From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 7:23 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:ICCF18 Kim S
_
From: Frank roarty
...just staying with Ni and f/h would this hypothesis be
consistent with the anomalous spectrum emitted? Would this f/h acting as a
heavy electron give off photons when
p
orbital..could the fractional value change states while still acting as a
heavy electron?
Fran
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From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 7:32 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:ICCF18
From: H Veeder
Is Kim saying a cold fusion bomb is possible?
Look at slide 31
https://mospace.umsystem.edu/xmlui/bitstream/handle/10355/36783/TheoreticalA
nalysisReactionMechanisms.pdf?sequence=1
This loo
Perhaps, what we need to worry about is about the miniaturization of
conventional explosives rather than the proliferation of thermonuclear
weapons.
Suppose a cold fusion bomb with the explosive power of the "daisy cutter"
could be carried in a backpack?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_upy14pesi4
Interesting, a search of
defkalion site:purdue.edu on google, comes up with two hits.
One of them is a message from Kim to his colleagues, and the other hit
"defkalion" seems to have been scrubbed from the website.
On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 1:19 AM, blaze spinnaker wrote:
> WOW Professor Kim shou
WOW Professor Kim shouldn't have put the Purdue University logo on the
slides like that. It almost looks like Purdue University is partnering
with Defkalion.
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Alan Fletcher wrote:
> Tip :
> http://www.lenr-forum.com/showthread.php?2243-ICCF18-paper-by-Yeong-Kim
This is not a Defkalion factoid because they never use D.
On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 3:29 AM, H Veeder wrote:
> Is Kim saying a cold fusion bomb is possible?
>
> Look at slide 31
>
> https://mospace.umsystem.edu/xmlui/bitstream/handle/10355/36783/TheoreticalAnalysisReactionMechanisms.pdf?sequence=1
Is Kim saying a cold fusion bomb is possible?
Look at slide 31
https://mospace.umsystem.edu/xmlui/bitstream/handle/10355/36783/TheoreticalAnalysisReactionMechanisms.pdf?sequence=1
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warning !
Instabilities may occur, if the deuterium density (pressure) is increased
too excessivel
Thanks Alan for the URL to Yeong's slides. That really helped clarify in
my mind what is happening in this device. A number of people have
mentioned how impressive the Defkalion live demonstration was, and yet
how amateurish it appears. It really wasn't an amateur presentation, far
from it.
There are many more newly available.
Document repository of ICCF-18 :
https://mospace.umsystem.edu/xmlui/handle/10355/35425/browse
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Alan Fletcher wrote:
> Tip :
> http://www.lenr-forum.com/showthread.php?2243-ICCF18-paper-by-Yeong-Kim-and-Defkalion-slides-are-pu
Tip :
http://www.lenr-forum.com/showthread.php?2243-ICCF18-paper-by-Yeong-Kim-and-Defkalion-slides-are-published&p=5626
Page : https://mospace.umsystem.edu/xmlui/handle/10355/36783
Slides :
https://mospace.umsystem.edu/xmlui/bitstream/handle/10355/36783/TheoreticalAnalysisReactionMechanisms.pdf?
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