Re: [Vo]:My current views on the 'Rossi's process'

2014-03-25 Thread mixent
have been ruled out by experiment. Probably ruled out only by theory. By the way what does AFAIK stand for? Bob - Original Message - From: mix...@bigpond.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 1:32 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:My current views on the 'Rossi's process

Re: [Vo]:My current views on the 'Rossi's process'

2014-03-25 Thread MarkI-Zeropoint
Bob, et.al.: AFAIK = As Far As I Know -mark On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Bob Cook wrote: By the way what does AFAIK stand for? Bob

Re: [Vo]:My current views on the 'Rossi's process'

2014-03-25 Thread Bob Cook
I should have guessed. Thanks Mark and Robin. You can tell I am an old timer. Bob - Original Message - From: MarkI-Zeropoint zeropo...@charter.net To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 1:31 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:My current views on the 'Rossi's process' Bob, et.al

Re: [Vo]:My current views on the 'Rossi's process'

2014-03-25 Thread Lennart Thornros
AFAIK stand for? Bob - Original Message - From: mix...@bigpond.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 1:32 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:My current views on the 'Rossi's process' In reply to Bob Cook's message of Sun, 23 Mar 2014 15:19:14 -0700: Hi, [snip] Your

Re: [Vo]:My current views on the 'Rossi's process'

2014-03-24 Thread mixent
In reply to Bob Cook's message of Sun, 23 Mar 2014 15:19:14 -0700: Hi, [snip] Your description is exactly as I understand it. The random walk is not very long however, since it probably occurs at the first electron it attracts and that is pretty quick after the nucleus gives it up. AFAIK

Re: [Vo]:My current views on the 'Rossi's process'

2014-03-23 Thread Teslaalset
I lost that data in my memory indeed. Thanks for refreshing it. Do you have a public reference on fusion of odd count nuleons not fusing? I respect your knowledge but like to understand this a bit better. It looks like there are many variaties possible. Looks like much is depending on what

Re: [Vo]:My current views on the 'Rossi's process'

2014-03-23 Thread Teslaalset
Eric, on the little info I could find in public domain, I understand that ß+ decay happens within the nucleus. Are you saying that there are quite some exceptions? On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 7:10 AM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 7:54 AM, Teslaalset

Re: [Vo]:My current views on the 'Rossi's process'

2014-03-23 Thread Bob Cook
:12 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:My current views on the 'Rossi's process' Eric, on the little info I could find in public domain, I understand that ß+ decay happens within the nucleus. Are you saying that there are quite some exceptions? On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 7:10 AM, Eric Walker

Re: [Vo]:My current views on the 'Rossi's process'

2014-03-23 Thread Bob Cook
, March 21, 2014 11:10 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:My current views on the 'Rossi's process' On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 7:54 AM, Teslaalset robbiehobbiesh...@gmail.com wrote: 1.. The ß+ decay energy of Cu(x) Ni(x) + e+ + ve (2 -4 MeV) of each decay step in the chain, causing the Ni/Cu powder

Re: [Vo]:My current views on the 'Rossi's process'

2014-03-23 Thread Eric Walker
On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 7:12 AM, Teslaalset robbiehobbiesh...@gmail.comwrote: Eric, on the little info I could find in public domain, I understand that ß+ decay happens within the nucleus. Are you saying that there are quite some exceptions? Perhaps Robin or Bob can correct me if I'm wrong,

Re: [Vo]:My current views on the 'Rossi's process'

2014-03-23 Thread Bob Cook
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:My current views on the 'Rossi's process' On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 7:12 AM, Teslaalset robbiehobbiesh...@gmail.com wrote: Eric, on the little info I could find in public domain, I understand that ß+ decay happens within the nucleus

Re: [Vo]:My current views on the 'Rossi's process'

2014-03-23 Thread Eric Walker
On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote: Until they get to real low energies they mostly move in a straight line. Thus even shielding will not destroy the coincident events that detectors will record. Interesting; I didn't realize that. Somewhere I got the

Re: [Vo]:My current views on the 'Rossi's process'

2014-03-23 Thread Bob Cook
3:29 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:My current views on the 'Rossi's process' On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote: Until they get to real low energies they mostly move in a straight line. Thus even shielding will not destroy the coincident events

Re: [Vo]:My current views on the 'Rossi's process'

2014-03-22 Thread Eric Walker
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 7:54 AM, Teslaalset robbiehobbiesh...@gmail.comwrote: 1. The ß+ decay energy of Cu(x) Ni(x) + e+ + ve (2 -4 MeV) of each decay step in the chain, causing the Ni/Cu powder to heat up. I think the electron-positron annihilation photons from the radioactive decay

[Vo]:My current views on the 'Rossi's process'

2014-03-21 Thread Teslaalset
I've been reading quite some theories and views on what exactly Rossi's / Defkalion's processes might be. Here's my current view focussing on the main effects only. Comments and (dis)agreements are welcome: The main chain of fusions/transmutations is in my view: Ni58+p Cu59 + e- Ni59 +p Cu60 +

Re: [Vo]:My current views on the 'Rossi's process'

2014-03-21 Thread Axil Axil
You should take a look at the table 2 and table 3 element list from the DGT ICCF-17 document. http://cdn.coldfusionnow.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/2012-08-13-ICCF-17__Paper_DGTGx.pdf The is a large increase in very light elements and not much nickel to copper transmutation. This means that

Re: [Vo]:My current views on the 'Rossi's process'

2014-03-21 Thread Kevin O'Malley
What would be the testable predictions of your theory? What should we be looking for when someone tests a device and publishes data about it? On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 7:54 AM, Teslaalset robbiehobbiesh...@gmail.comwrote: I've been reading quite some theories and views on what exactly Rossi's /

Re: [Vo]:My current views on the 'Rossi's process'

2014-03-21 Thread Kevin O'Malley
That sorta goes to my point about looking for experimental results that either lend support or reduce support for a particular theory. I'm noticing that a lot of the experiments are veering towards testing nuclear products, which is going to be expensive. It won't matter much if Rossi is selling