Re: [Vo]:Piantelli's recent EU patent

2014-05-26 Thread mixent
In reply to Eric Walker's message of Mon, 26 May 2014 16:38:30 -0700: Hi, [snip] >I was thinking of the Oppenheimer-Phillips process. The reason I suspect >the fast protons are not the primary channel is that I suppose there would >be a lot more detectable bremsstrahlung if there were enough of t

Re: [Vo]:Piantelli's recent EU patent

2014-05-26 Thread Eric Walker
On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 4:09 PM, wrote: >I think my main takeaway from Piantelli's patents is that he's seeing > >sufficient fast protons (e.g., in his cloud chamber) to put up the cost of > >a patent application to capitalize on them. I would be surprised if they > >are the primary channel. > >

Re: [Vo]:Piantelli's recent EU patent

2014-05-26 Thread mixent
In reply to Eric Walker's message of Sun, 25 May 2014 17:53:19 -0700: Hi, [snip] >On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 4:01 PM, wrote: > >This is a waste of time. The fast protons lose most of their energy ionizing >> surrounding atoms. Only one in thousands will undergo a further nuclear >> reaction. >> Thus

Re: [Vo]:Piantelli's recent EU patent

2014-05-25 Thread Eric Walker
On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 4:01 PM, wrote: This is a waste of time. The fast protons lose most of their energy ionizing > surrounding atoms. Only one in thousands will undergo a further nuclear > reaction. > Thus the original reaction must be seen as the primary energy generating > mechanism (assumi

Re: [Vo]:Piantelli's recent EU patent

2014-05-25 Thread mixent
In reply to Eric Walker's message of Sun, 25 May 2014 14:43:03 -0700: Hi, [snip] >The application is encumbered by Piantelli's theory of H- ion orbital >capture by the substrate atoms. Here is where the application resolves the >question raised above: there are two interactions that Piantelli bel

Re: [Vo]:Piantelli's recent EU patent

2014-05-25 Thread Eric Walker
I wrote: There is a detail in the middle of the description that was unclear -- the > patent seems to be saying that there is an energy release through mass > defect *before* the proton is ejected, as though the electrons in the H- > ion are somehow being consumed. I'm not sure what Piantelli has

Re: [Vo]:Piantelli's recent EU patent

2014-05-25 Thread James Bowery
A patent disclosure that, in its preferred embodiment, does not make beneficial use practical to those skilled in the art is no patent disclosure at all. Attempting to define "skilled in the art" so narrowly that such "skill" can practically be treated as a trade secret, vitiates the patent. On

[Vo]:Piantelli's recent EU patent

2014-05-25 Thread Eric Walker
I just read through Piantelli's recent EU patent: http://www.google.com/patents/EP2368252B1?cl=en It was an interesting read. The publication date on the patent is January 16, 2013, and it was given priority on November 24, 2008. I don't know whether you'd refer to it as Piantelli's 2008 EU pat