Re: [Vo]:Rossi Long-term test : LONG WAIT (Aug/Sep 2014)

2013-11-13 Thread Alain Sepeda
It is common fr people in total distrust to demand useless test. I remember of test by militaries on pigs (napalm or nuke...?) moreover 6 month may give indication of total autonomy, reliability... it is a big version of the tea kettle. when you are in denial, you increase the demand to make it

Re: [Vo]:Rossi Long-term test : LONG WAIT (Aug/Sep 2014)

2013-11-12 Thread Alan Fletcher
6 Month test, after all. Frank Acland November 12th, 2013 at 5:51 PM Dear Andrea, 1. Is the current long-term validation for the purpose of getting safety certification for the hot cat? 2. Will the hot cat validation help with safety certification for domestic e-cat systems? 3. Is the

Re: [Vo]:Rossi Long-term test : LONG WAIT (Aug/Sep 2014)

2013-11-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
A 6-month test is ridiculous. It does not prove anything that a 1-month test would not prove. A week would probably suffice. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Rossi Long-term test : LONG WAIT (Aug/Sep 2014)

2013-11-12 Thread James Bowery
A 6-month test is getting into Underwriters Laboratory territory. As Rossi says: different purposes On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 9:22 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: A 6-month test is ridiculous. It does not prove anything that a 1-month test would not prove. A week would probably

[Vo]:Rossi Long-term test : LONG WAIT (Aug/Sep 2014)

2013-11-06 Thread Alan Fletcher
Don't hold your breath : Andrea Rossi November 5th, 2013 at 7:25 AM Marco Serra: Thank you for your attention, I sympathize with you. I do not know when we will publish, because it does not depend on me, but surely within 2014. I dare to foresee before August/September. But this is not an

Re: [Vo]:Rossi Long-term test : LONG WAIT (Aug/Sep 2014)

2013-11-06 Thread Alan Fletcher
ps : Mark Gibbs and I get his seal of approval -- Frank Acland November 5th, 2013 at 6:30 PM Dear Andrea, Is this the Ragone diagram you stand by? http://b-i.forbesimg.com/markgibbs/files/2013/05/130520_ragone_04-1024×624.png Best wishes, Frank Acland Andrea Rossi November 5th, 2013 at 8:06

Re: [Vo]:Rossi Long-term test : LONG WAIT (Aug/Sep 2014)

2013-11-06 Thread fznidarsic
and how long has it been since the 1 MW October test? Two years! -Original Message- From: Alan Fletcher a...@well.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Nov 6, 2013 12:11 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi Long-term test : LONG WAIT (Aug/Sep 2014) ps : Mark Gibbs and I get his seal

Re: [Vo]:Rossi Long-term test : LONG WAIT (Aug/Sep 2014)

2013-11-06 Thread Rob Dingemans
Dear Alan, On 6-11-2013 18:11, Alan Fletcher wrote: Is this the Ragone diagram you stand by? http://b-i.forbesimg.com/markgibbs/files/2013/05/130520_ragone_04-1024×624.png I'm afraid the file is not there anymore, as I get an 404 error. Kind regards, Rob

Re: [Vo]:Rossi Long-term test : LONG WAIT (Aug/Sep 2014)

2013-11-06 Thread Frank Acland
I think this is the same image: http://cdn.physorg.com/newman/gfx/news/hires/2013/rossitests2.jpg On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Rob Dingemans manonbrid...@aim.com wrote: Dear Alan, On 6-11-2013 18:11, Alan Fletcher wrote: Is this the Ragone diagram you stand by?

Re: [Vo]:Rossi Long-term test : LONG WAIT (Aug/Sep 2014)

2013-11-06 Thread Alan Fletcher
- Original Message - From: Frank Acland ecatwo...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2013 12:41:09 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi Long-term test : LONG WAIT (Aug/Sep 2014) I think this is the same image: http://cdn.physorg.com/newman/gfx/news/hires/2013

Re: [Vo]:Rossi Long-term test : LONG WAIT (Aug/Sep 2014)

2013-11-06 Thread Alan Fletcher
PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi Long-term test : LONG WAIT (Aug/Sep 2014) and how long has it been since the 1 MW October test? Two years!

Re: [Vo]:Rossi Long-term test : LONG WAIT (Aug/Sep 2014)

2013-11-06 Thread James Bowery
So what are the in process evaluations currently? There was talk of something like an Underwriters Laboratories certification going on. There was talk of the original 1MW plant undergoing evaluation. Are there others? What is the hold-up on manufacturing? On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Alan

Re: [Vo]:Rossi Long-term test : LONG WAIT (Aug/Sep 2014)

2013-11-06 Thread Rob Dingemans
Alan, On 6-11-2013 21:48, Alan Fletcher wrote: It's funny -- I pulled up the Forbes image this morning ! Still there : http://b-i.forbesimg.com/markgibbs/files/2013/05/130520_ragone_04-1024x624.png Yep I see, but there is a slight difference between those two: The one that works has an x

Re: [Vo]:Rossi Long-term test : LONG WAIT (Aug/Sep 2014)

2013-11-06 Thread Alan Fletcher
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2013 12:41:09 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi Long-term test : LONG WAIT (Aug/Sep 2014) I think this is the same image: http://cdn.physorg.com/newman/gfx/news/hires/2013/rossitests2.jpg Stolen -- With all the attributions cropped off.