Re: [Vo]:Superatoms

2012-08-27 Thread ChemE Stewart
Terry, It should. Steven Spielberg produced GREMLINS (I could not resist that) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gremlins See, everything in the universe is making more sense now... Also, as I state in prediction #22 on my blog, the effect of this reaction creating "bosanovas" and "lost Bosons" at

Re: [Vo]:Superatoms

2012-08-27 Thread Terry Blanton
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Jones Beene wrote: > This hypothesis of the "lost bosons" Sounds like the latest Spielberg production. T

Re: [Vo]:Superatoms

2012-08-27 Thread ChemE Stewart
Yeah nice animations. To me it explains the higher reactivity of packing superatoms like Rydberg matter into voids that then behave like a Bose Einstein Condensate only at higher temperatures to create the amplified reactions seen in LENR+. My first swag at a calculation on my blog show that with

RE: [Vo]:Superatoms

2012-08-27 Thread Jones Beene
The biggest mystery is not the explosion, per se, but the disappearance (apparent loss) of a fraction of the bosons. The authors make no firm case that matter has vanished, and even if it has, its energy content should be much higher than the bosenova event itself. But as we formerly mentioned reg

Re: [Vo]:Superatoms

2012-08-27 Thread Terry Blanton
http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/releases/bosenova.cfm Vid on the sidebar. T

RE: [Vo]:Superatoms

2012-08-27 Thread Jones Beene
Let me clarify. We did not invent the term "bosenova" and neither did NIST or JILA - but we borrowed it for the purpose of showing energy gain via a quasi-bosons modality in condensed matter at ambient and higher temperature. The original usage at NIST was not for energy gain at all - and o

RE: [Vo]:Superatoms

2012-08-27 Thread Jones Beene
Here on Vortex we have been calling this M.O. a "Bosenova" for at least two and a half years. http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg37502.html .looks like the JILA team does not know how to do a google search.. From: ChemE Stewart Bosenovacat... Since the ph

Re: [Vo]:Superatoms

2012-08-27 Thread ny . min
Fang: It should be "Yes, yes Axil". Before you tickle Axil: http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg70016.html check out his post history. Axil is THE MAN. But do not feel embarrassed because vortex contributers frequently show excessive verbiage usually associated with wanna-be jou

Re: [Vo]:Superatoms

2012-08-26 Thread ChemE Stewart
The experiments led by Randall Hulet at Rice University from 1995 through 2000 showed that lithium condensates with attractive interactions could stably exist, but only up to a certain critical atom number. Beyond this critical number, the attraction overwhelmed the zero-point energy of the harmoni

[Vo]:Superatoms

2012-08-26 Thread ChemE Stewart
I agree, just one micro void collapse triggering a flash of ultra hot radiation as the condensate restabilizes or evaporates completely. The more voids of the correct size the more the effect is seen. The "up pumping" could be the added energy from quantum scale gravity further collapsing the R

[Vo]:Superatoms

2012-08-26 Thread ChemE Stewart
I agree, just one micro void collapse triggering a flash of ultra hot radiation as the condensate restabilizes or evaporates completely. The more voids of the correct size the more the effect is seen. The "up pumping" could be the added energy from quantum scale gravity further collapsing the R

RE: [Vo]:Superatoms

2012-08-26 Thread Jones Beene
freely recombine outside with net gain? Would this work? Jojo - Original Message - From: Jones Beene <mailto:jone...@pacbell.net> To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 11:40 PM Subject: RE: [Vo]:Superatoms Yes, Stewart – good point - and it do

Re: [Vo]:Superatoms

2012-08-26 Thread Jojo Jaro
, 2012 11:40 PM Subject: RE: [Vo]:Superatoms Yes, Stewart - good point - and it does not have to be complete structural failure of the cavity. A former contributor here, Michel Julian, notoriously described this mechanism "the sphincter effect" . which is decidedly not food f

Re: [Vo]:Superatoms

2012-08-26 Thread Axil Axil
*…"it may be a good metaphor for energy gain in condensed matter systems – but the superatom simply cannot be involved in the Rohner scam."* It is possible that the papp engine can work and also be used in SCAMs by both papp and J. Rohner. It would be a crime against humanity to through the baby

RE: [Vo]:Superatoms

2012-08-26 Thread Jones Beene
Yes, Stewart – good point - and it does not have to be complete structural failure of the cavity. A former contributor here, Michel Julian, notoriously described this mechanism “the sphincter effect” … which is decidedly not food for thought. Whatever happened to Michel anyway? When a regu

Re: [Vo]:Superatoms

2012-08-26 Thread ChemE Stewart
Jones, I like your description. I liken it to a "hot condensate" under extreme pressure and temperature within a void) If you relieve pressure quickly (structural failure of the lattice containing it) it might "flash" matter to achieve a new equilibrium. Just food for thought. On Sunday, August

Re: [Vo]:Superatoms

2012-08-26 Thread Jojo Jaro
Jojo - Original Message - From: Jones Beene To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 10:07 PM Subject: RE: [Vo]:Superatoms BTW - even Stirling Allan is covering his backside on this scam and apparently now believes that the "pop" effect is due

RE: [Vo]:Superatoms

2012-08-26 Thread Jones Beene
Before getting too worked up over the superatom, remember that it may be a good metaphor for energy gain in condensed matter systems – but the superatom simply cannot be involved in the Rohner scam. BTW - even Stirling Allan is covering his backside on this scam and apparently now believes tha

Re: [Vo]:Superatoms

2012-08-26 Thread Fang Sen
:31 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Superatoms Gold can come in many colors. Since ancient times, glass artists and alchemists alike have known how to grind the metal into fine particles that would take on hues such as red or mauve. Carbon nanotubes are the same, different sizes shade

Re: [Vo]:Superatoms

2012-08-26 Thread ChemE Stewart
opinion changed again? > > First, there's Cesium thermionic catalysts, then Dipole structures in 2D > materials like Rydberg matter; then Quantum Charge Accumulation in 1D > materials, then charge screening in 1D nanotubes, then Field emissions on > SWNT rugs. then Papper Noble p

Re: [Vo]:Superatoms

2012-08-25 Thread Axil Axil
lapse into a > gremlim :-) > > Maybe I'm just uninformed about your theory but it looks like you can't > make up your mind as to what your theory is. Has your opinion changed that > much in the last month? > > But, keep it coming. Looks like we're all strugglin

Re: [Vo]:Superatoms

2012-08-25 Thread Jojo Jaro
ial overheating trying to solve this LENR enigma. - Original Message - From: Axil Axil To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 12:48 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Superatoms Ed Storms said in “An Approach to Explaining Cold Fusion:” "Many explanations hav

Re: [Vo]:Superatoms

2012-08-25 Thread Axil Axil
b Parks is right. > > > > Jojo > > > > - Original Message - > *From:* Axil Axil > *To:* vortex-l > *Sent:* Sunday, August 26, 2012 11:05 AM > *Subject:* [Vo]:Superatoms > > Superatoms are clusters of atoms that seem to exhibit some of the > propertie

Re: [Vo]:Superatoms

2012-08-25 Thread Jojo Jaro
azy and Bob Parks is right. Jojo - Original Message - From: Axil Axil To: vortex-l Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 11:05 AM Subject: [Vo]:Superatoms Superatoms are clusters of atoms that seem to exhibit some of the properties of elemental atoms. IMHO, superatoms are

[Vo]:Superatoms

2012-08-25 Thread Axil Axil
Superatoms are clusters of atoms that seem to exhibit some of the properties of elemental atoms. IMHO, superatoms are fundamental to LENR. These clusters of atoms provide a way to substitute and amplify the effects of a particular LENR responsive element. The amplification of LENR effects all depe