Re: [Vo]:The Dirty Dozen Basic routes to thermal gain for hydrogen in a lattice

2014-07-19 Thread Kevin O'Malley
I'd like to add my Poynting Vector based model to the mix. I had posted this on another thread about Ed Storms's latest book. To: *All; y'all; et al* Here’s my theory. On either side of a crack in the substrate material, you’ve got electrons moving at different speeds, creating a

Re: [Vo]:The Dirty Dozen Basic routes to thermal gain for hydrogen in a lattice

2014-03-01 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Hello Jones: There is an interesting CNT patent mentioned on ECat World. Carbon Nanotube Energy? New Patent Filed by Seldon Technologies Posted on February 28, 2014 by adminhttp://www.e-catworld.com/author/admin/* 30

RE: [Vo]:The Dirty Dozen Basic routes to thermal gain for hydrogen in a lattice

2014-03-01 Thread Jones Beene
Hi Kevin, Yes the is the same inventor I posted about yesterday- Christopher Cooper. Everyone interesting in this facet of LENR should look at the patent drawings and the simplicity of the claims. This should be a breeze to replicate - if there is anything to it.

Re: [Vo]:The Dirty Dozen Basic routes to thermal gain for hydrogen in a lattice

2014-03-01 Thread Bob Cook
Jones Bob here-- You indicated the following: Chris did not mention SPP implying that he probably does not know of the plasmon polariton mechanism. It's too late now even though applications can be altered and augmented (but one loses priority). Has anyone you know mentioned SPP in a

RE: [Vo]:The Dirty Dozen Basic routes to thermal gain for hydrogen in a lattice

2014-03-01 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Bob Cook Jones Bob here-- You indicated the following: Chris did not mention SPP implying that he probably does not know of the plasmon polariton mechanism. It's too late now even though applications can be altered and augmented (but one loses priority).

Re: [Vo]:The Dirty Dozen Basic routes to thermal gain for hydrogen in a lattice

2014-03-01 Thread Bob Cook
Jones-- Thanks. Bob - Original Message - From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 9:26 AM Subject: RE: [Vo]:The Dirty Dozen Basic routes to thermal gain for hydrogen in a lattice -Original Message- From: Bob Cook Jones

Re: [Vo]:The Dirty Dozen Basic routes to thermal gain for hydrogen in a lattice

2014-03-01 Thread Bob Cook
Jones-- Brown's 2007 item you refer to below is close to my first impression of what was happening back in 1989 in the P-F experiment. An excerpt from Brown's paper is included below: Enhanced low energy fusion rate in palladium (Pd) due to vibrational deuteron dipole-dipole interactions

Re: [Vo]:The Dirty Dozen Basic routes to thermal gain for hydrogen in a lattice

2014-03-01 Thread Bob Cook
Jones and Fran-- Brown in the paper cited does NOT include the effect of magnetic fields. This omission would seem to be relative to one of his conclusions which follows from the paper: The intrinsic complexity of this exact method and the inapplicablity of a per- turbative approach have so

Re: [Vo]:The Dirty Dozen Basic routes to thermal gain for hydrogen in a lattice

2014-03-01 Thread Bob Cook
Jones-- Refeerences used in Brown's 2007 paper are as follows: [1] G. Kurizki, A. Kofman, V.Yudson, Phys. Rev. A53 R35-R38 (1996). [2] J.Brown, arxiv.org/abs/cond-mat/0608292 [3] H.Krimmel, L. Schimmele, C. Els¨asser, M. F¨ahnle, J.Phys. Condens. Matt. 6 7679-7704 (1994). [4]

RE: [Vo]:The Dirty Dozen Basic routes to thermal gain for hydrogen in a lattice

2014-03-01 Thread Jones Beene
BTW - Julian Brown, aka JS Brown, aka J Brown is a top Oxford physicist, who was very interested in LENR before going over the European Patent Office (EPO). All of papers on arXiv are worth rereading. Unlike the USPTO - patents mentioning LENR are allowed in Europe, probably due to Brown's

Re: [Vo]:The Dirty Dozen Basic routes to thermal gain for hydrogen in a lattice

2014-03-01 Thread Bob Cook
Jones-- Too bad we do not have a similar presence in the US Patent Office. We may have been the leaders in LENR. Bob - Original Message - From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 2:11 PM Subject: RE: [Vo]:The Dirty Dozen Basic

Re: [Vo]:The Dirty Dozen Basic routes to thermal gain for hydrogen in a lattice

2014-02-25 Thread mixent
In reply to Kevin O'Malley's message of Mon, 24 Feb 2014 23:18:05 -0800: Hi, [snip] All: I found an interesting Cold FusionTheory Wiki http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Cold_fusion/Theory It's a start, at least. Over the years I have provided many examples of how Hydrinos could result in fission

Re: [Vo]:The Dirty Dozen Basic routes to thermal gain for hydrogen in a lattice

2014-02-24 Thread Kevin O'Malley
All: I found an interesting Cold FusionTheory Wiki http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Cold_fusion/Theory It's a start, at least. On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 6:10 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Hi Kevin, I did include two variants of BEC- one is associated with Kim and one with

RE: [Vo]:The Dirty Dozen Basic routes to thermal gain for hydrogen in a lattice

2014-02-06 Thread Jones Beene
Hi Kevin, I did include two variants of BEC- one is associated with Kim and one with Takahashi. Neither can adequately explain operation at elevated temperatures. This is a list that is continually evolving and I will include a 1D version in the next go-around. Jones From: Kevin

RE: [Vo]:The Dirty Dozen Basic routes to thermal gain for hydrogen in a lattice

2014-02-06 Thread Jones Beene
Another factor favoring CNT - as the containment mechanism for hydrogen in an alternative version of LENR (instead of a metal lattice) is the similarity to graphene in presence of electrons. There is every reason to suspect that CNT would support ballistic electrons at least as well as

Re: [Vo]:The Dirty Dozen Basic routes to thermal gain for hydrogen in a lattice

2014-02-05 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Thanks for posting this, Jones. It reminds me of an earlier post on Vortex that was a compilation of LENR theories but I cannot find it with the search engine nor even with google. So I'll need to circle back on this item to comment on it because I intended to contrast your post to the earlier

[Vo]:The Dirty Dozen Basic routes to thermal gain for hydrogen in a lattice

2014-02-04 Thread Jones Beene
Below can be found at least 12 viable and distinct hypotheses for LENR gain. Given that some of the listings represent slight variations or enabler mechanisms there are more than a dozen entries (16). All are related in some way to hydrogen which is constrained in a lattice, and many require QM

Re: [Vo]:The Dirty Dozen Basic routes to thermal gain for hydrogen in a lattice

2014-02-04 Thread Edmund Storms
On Feb 4, 2014, at 9:42 AM, Jones Beene wrote: Below can be found at least 12 viable and distinct hypotheses for LENR gain. Given that some of the listings represent slight variations or enabler mechanisms there are more than a dozen entries (16). All are related in some way to hydrogen