Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video

2012-05-27 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
Not LENR. If what was reported by LeClair actually happened, which is substantially in doubt, no independent account has come to light, and LeClair's reports are full of unsupported and wild theoretical interpretations shallow on actual experimental evidence, this would not be LENR at all,

Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video

2012-05-27 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 04:04 PM 5/25/2012, Alan J Fletcher wrote: At 01:49 PM 5/25/2012, Alan J Fletcher wrote: Hundreds of wave trains and vortices appeared everywhere and are permanently burned into walls, objects and trees surrounding the lab. Came from Le Clair himself, in response to Krivit

Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video

2012-05-27 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 04:17 PM 5/25/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote: Le Clair is quoted: The experiment gave off powerful crested cnoid de Broglie Matter wave soliton wave packages that were doubly periodic and followed the Jacobi Elliptic functions exactly, mostly in the form of large doubly-periodic vortices.

Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video

2012-05-27 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 04:28 PM 5/25/2012, David Roberson wrote: The scenario that they mention is beyond frightening and anyone who remained in the vicinity of that experiment should be given a metal for bravery. I can imagine the description of damage being used as part of the plot to a wild science fiction

Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video

2012-05-27 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 04:42 PM 5/25/2012, Chemical Engineer wrote: Reads like the catalyst may have been Lysergic acid diethylamide It does read that way. LeClair does not report the primary observational data, but, rather, his high-level abstract impressions, his *interpretations* of the data, and that is

Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video

2012-05-27 Thread Axil Axil
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/files/Initiation%20of%20nuclear%20reactions.pdf A number of experiments that feature violent activity in water share the same characteristics that LeClair observed in his LENR experiments. I see the referenced experiment listed above demonstrating the

Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video

2012-05-27 Thread Axil Axil
http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0911/0911.5495.pdf Sorry. try this link. On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/files/Initiation%20of%20nuclear%20reactions.pdf A number of experiments that feature violent

Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video

2012-05-27 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 04:43 PM 5/25/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote: Axil Axil mailto:janap...@gmail.comjanap...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video

2012-05-27 Thread Jojo Jaro
of extreme charges on nanotubules or Rydberg Matter? Jojo - Original Message - From: Axil Axil To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 1:41 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video http://www.journal-of-nuclear

Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video

2012-05-27 Thread Axil Axil
-l@eskimo.com *Sent:* Monday, May 28, 2012 1:41 AM *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/files/Initiation%20of%20nuclear%20reactions.pdf A number of experiments that feature violent activity in water

Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video

2012-05-27 Thread Alan Fletcher
From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 11:25:34 AM But the title of this thread is Zawodny's video. It was my fault bringing up Le Clair .. but I was following up on Bushnell's quote (linked in the original post) about Labs blown up and windows melted.

Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video

2012-05-25 Thread Alan J Fletcher
On the nasa page http://futureinnovation.larc.nasa.gov/view/articles/futurism/bushnell/low-energy-nuclear-reactions.html Bushnell said However, several labs have blown up studying LENR and windows have melted, indicating when the conditions are right prodigious amounts of energy can be

Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video

2012-05-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: Any other links to labs blowing up and window melting ? I don't know about windows melting. I listed 5 incidents in chapter 12 of my book. I have heard there have been other explosions but I have no specific information on them. I have heard that cold

Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video

2012-05-25 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 12:41 PM 5/25/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote: Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: Any other links to labs blowing up and window melting ? I don't know about windows melting. There's also : Re: [Vo]:the desktop supernova - The Mail Archive

Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video

2012-05-25 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 01:49 PM 5/25/2012, Alan J Fletcher wrote: Hundreds of wave trains and vortices appeared everywhere and are permanently burned into walls, objects and trees surrounding the lab. Came from Le Clair himself, in response to Krivit

Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video

2012-05-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Le Clair is quoted: The experiment gave off powerful crested cnoid de Broglie Matter wave soliton wave packages that were doubly periodic and followed the Jacobi Elliptic functions exactly, mostly in the form of large doubly-periodic vortices. Hundreds of wave trains and vortices appeared

Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video

2012-05-25 Thread Alan J Fletcher
Krivit elaborates on NASA and Larsen : NASA and Widom-Larsen Theory: Inside Story http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2012/05/24/nasa-and-widom-larsen-theory-inside-story/#more-2474

Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video

2012-05-25 Thread David Roberson
was not better documented! Are you sure this was not part of an April fools joke? Dave -Original Message- From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, May 25, 2012 5:17 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube

Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video

2012-05-25 Thread Axil Axil
http://pesn.com/2012/04/28/9602083_NanoSpire_Inc_on_Harnessing_Cavitation_Zero_Point_Energy_to_Produce_Fusion_and_Transmutation_in_Water/ the pictures from LeClair are in the comments section of this blog. Cheers: Axil On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com

Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video

2012-05-25 Thread Chemical Engineer
({}, 'cvml', 'jedrothw...@gmail.com'); To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'vortex-l@eskimo.com'); Sent: Fri, May 25, 2012 5:17 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video Le Clair is quoted: The experiment gave off powerful crested

Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video

2012-05-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: http://pesn.com/2012/04/28/9602083_NanoSpire_Inc_on_Harnessing_Cavitation_Zero_Point_Energy_to_Produce_Fusion_and_Transmutation_in_Water/ the pictures from LeClair are in the comments section of this blog. Thanks. Not many photos there. Only one, it

Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video

2012-05-25 Thread Axil Axil
LeClair has observed the generation of *Protonated Water Clusters* in the plasma of the collapsing cavitation bubble. This nanomaterial is a topologic material that concentrates positive charges; most probably superconductive and quantum mechanically coherent at the tip of the cluster. It is

Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video

2012-05-25 Thread Eric Walker
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: the pictures from LeClair are in the comments section of this blog. I know very little about Mark LeClair or NanoSpire. The main thing I conclude from the photographs in the comments is that the lab is not clean and that

[Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video

2012-05-24 Thread Akira Shirakawa
Hello group, This is via ecatnews [1] / NASA Langley RC YouTube Channel [2] Joe Zawodny informally speaks again about his group's recent developments on LENR and future applications/implications. Widom-Larsen theory cited, new very small scale test device shown. This video appears to have

Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video

2012-05-24 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2012-05-24 12:57, Akira Shirakawa wrote: Hello group, Here's a related blog post by Dennis Bushnell (Chief Scientist, NASA Langley Research Center). I don't know exactly how recent this is, but I've never seen it linked before:

Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video

2012-05-24 Thread pagnucco
The Page Info states - Modified: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 3:36:53 PM I am not sure if that means it was uploaded at that time. On 2012-05-24 12:57, Akira Shirakawa wrote: Hello group, Here's a related blog post by Dennis Bushnell (Chief Scientist, NASA Langley Research Center). I don't know

RE: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video

2012-05-24 Thread Finlay MacNab
of his observations were available. Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 12:57:56 +0200 From: shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video Hello group, This is via ecatnews [1] / NASA Langley RC YouTube Channel [2] Joe

Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video

2012-05-24 Thread Axil Axil
To avoid being laughed at and eventually fired, the people at NASA need a politically correct theory to legitimate their interest in cold fusion. High energy and plasma physics and its conceptual spawn, the standard model all say that the coulomb barrier is inviolate. So how can NASA embrace