Interesting gas tax proposal

2005-05-02 Thread Keith Nagel
Hi All. If Horace is still out there, I thought he would get a big kick out of this proposal. http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2005/4/26/152946/325 It's a non-starter for a couple reasons; but it is somewhat more feasible than a simple tax. K.

RE: Another Challenge/ was RE: Gas Tax

2005-04-19 Thread John Steck
- From: Keith Nagel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 3:05 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Another Challenge/ was RE: Gas Tax Hi Horace, Well, lets see. I've spent a better part of my adult life trying to do something about this. Early on, my mentor and I founded a 501

RE: Another Challenge/ was RE: Gas Tax

2005-04-19 Thread Keith Nagel
Subject: RE: Another Challenge/ was RE: Gas Tax Hey Keith, set up a paypal account for donations. This might be a rag-tag group, but I bet $20 here and there from the active and lurkers alike would give you some operating capital with no strings attached. Personally I like to understand what I am

Re: Gas Tax

2005-04-15 Thread Horace Heffner
When are people going to stop complaining and arguing and actually DO SOMETHING about energy. The following was a reasonable starting point when posted here over two years ago, and it is still a good way to use the modest gas tax proposed, or even a much larger gas tax, which is now much more

Another Challenge/ was RE: Gas Tax

2005-04-15 Thread Keith Nagel
, April 15, 2005 2:36 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: Gas Tax When are people going to stop complaining and arguing and actually DO SOMETHING about energy. The following was a reasonable starting point when posted here over two years ago, and it is still a good way to use the modest gas tax

Gas Tax

2005-04-14 Thread Stephen R. Lawrence
The way I see it is this: if there is no high gas tax, demand continues to grow which increases gas prices anyway--the price increase ends up going to the refiners and the people owning the oil wells. If there is a high gas tax, demand is reduced (well, hopefully) and the money goes

Re: Gas tax

2005-04-14 Thread RC Macaulay
Stephen Lawrence suggestion on gas tax presupposes integrity in government which cannot exist because the political animal cannot be tamed or constricted by money. Money unleashes the beast. The beast must be starved. Last year a seemingly nebulous bill passed as an " adder" t

Re: Gas tax / Unitarian Jihad

2005-04-14 Thread leaking pen
hey, your speaking to the katana of reasoned discussion here. hehehe On 4/14/05, Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RC Macaulay wrote: Stephen Lawrence suggestion on gas tax presupposes integrity in government which cannot exist because the political animal cannot be tamed

Re: Gas tax / Unitarian Jihad

2005-04-14 Thread Grimer
At 08:19 am 14-04-05 -0700, you wrote: hey, your speaking to the katana of reasoned discussion here. hehehe Since I had no idea what katana meant I thought I would give the definition for any other Vorts who are equally orientally challenged. ;-)

Re: Gas tax / Unitarian Jihad

2005-04-14 Thread Terry Blanton
From: Grimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Since I had no idea what katana meant I thought I would give the definition for any other Vorts who are equally orientally challenged. ;-) Not if they saw Kill Bill Vol. I.

Re: Gas tax / Unitarian Jihad

2005-04-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
Grimer wrote: Since I had no idea what katana meant I thought I would give the definition for any other Vorts who are equally orientally challenged. ;-) --- A slightly curved sword, with its convex edge sharpened, used since the Ashikaga

Re: Gas tax / Unitarian Jihad

2005-04-14 Thread leaking pen
no, even in modern japanese, a katana is a particular kind of sword. other notable japanese swords, the dai-katana (think greatsword made like a katana), the tachi, an even larger version, used from horseback, the ninja-to, a shorter, straight blade weapon, with a chisel point for penetrating

Re: Gas tax / Unitarian Jihad

2005-04-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
leaking pen wrote: no, even in modern japanese, a katana is a particular kind of sword. Not according to my 1954 edition Kenkyusha' Japanese-English dictionary. Under katana it says sword; blade. See also: http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/wwwjdic/ Maybe things have changed since 1954. Note also

Re: Gas Tax

2005-04-14 Thread Kyle Mcallister
--- Stephen R. Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe higher transport costs will change all this, but at the moment I don't quite see the mechanism. From: Stephen R. Lawrence, 8 Supanee Court, French's Road, Cambridge, England, CB4 3LB. Tel/Fax +44 1223 564373 Ah, so you already live

Re: Gas Tax

2005-04-14 Thread leaking pen
better yet. raise it for the corporations that use most of the gas in their trucking fleets. in addition, start billing them for road usage, instead of the citizens. On 4/14/05, Kyle Mcallister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Stephen R. Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe higher transport