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From: Mark Iverson zeropo...@charter.net
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, January 19, 2011 11:29:15 PM
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Deuterium kills the reaction?
Jones:
Did you have the right units on that RF frequency... 1420 Mhz is 1.420 Ghz,
correct?
-Mark
Yes. That's right. If you are old enough, you learned the hydrogen line in
school as 1420 megacycles. Giga was not in student's vocabulary then. This
is what we call the hyperfine structure today.
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From: Mark Iverson
Jones:
Did you have the right units on that RF
Deuterium kills the reaction? Amazing if true.
You have to hand it to Rossi: he finds things out. He discovers things
others do not. Like Mizuno.
- Jed
From: noone noone
* I don't think there is any RF generator.
The purpose of the Rossi black box is said to be a secret, but if it were
merely a DC power supply for a resistive heater, then you would be implying
a planned intent to deceive the audience, which is not impossible, but
Dear Jones,
Randy Mills would not agree with your assertion.
He is waiting for the scientific analysis (that of Bologna professors) to
make an opinion of the demonstration and the generator.
If hydrinos have played a role, they can be found with the method described
e..g. in this paper:
RL Mills
Dear Peter,
Do you know the phrase specchietto per le allodole?
It is often what happens publicly, after a furious inventor has had a
heart-to-heart talk with his attorney: Stay cool and maintain dignity, let
me handle the dirty work
Jones
From: Peter Gluck
Dear Jones,
Yes, but it is about a kind of trap. What does it mean in the context of
our discussions- re Randy?
I e-knew one of the attorneys of Randy- it was some dispute with an
Englishman re a patent.
Peter
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 6:26 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Dear Peter,
Do you
Then why does BLP not produce a product?
They seem to have had a rock solid easily to replicate technology for a decade.
From: Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, January 20, 2011 10:30:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Deuterium kills
10:30:34 AM
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Deuterium kills the reaction?
Dear Jones,
Randy Mills would not agree with your assertion.
He is waiting for the scientific analysis (that of Bologna professors) to
make an opinion of the demonstration and the generator.
If hydrinos have played a role
states for absorb abd desorb are different?
From: francis froarty...@comcast.net
To: thesteornpa...@yahoo.com
Cc: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, January 20, 2011 7:28:21 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Deuterium kills the reaction?
Hi noone
noone said on Thu, 20
Do you have Skype? Could we talk on there?
From: Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, January 20, 2011 12:39:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Deuterium kills the reaction?
They have a complex technology, needs a lot of development, can
on there?
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*From:* Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com
*To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Thu, January 20, 2011 12:39:13 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Deuterium kills the reaction?
They have a complex technology, needs a lot of development, can be
replicated but no easily. Take please a look
threshold the bond states for absorb abd desorb are different?
From: francis froarty...@comcast.net
To: thesteornpa...@yahoo.com
Cc: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, January 20, 2011 7:28:21 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Deuterium kills the reaction?
Hi noone
noone said on Thu
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 12:27 PM, noone noone thesteornpa...@yahoo.com wrote:
Then why does BLP not produce a product?
I think Jones has pointed out why. They generate radioactive ash.
T
In reply to noone noone's message of Thu, 20 Jan 2011 02:11:47 -0800 (PST):
Hi,
[snip]
Also, I do not see how the reaction runs away when the device is turned off.
The Papp engine also exploded when the power was removed.
Regards,
Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Thu, 20 Jan 2011 06:57:15 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
Again, the need for RF is NOT as a heater, but as a means of spin flipping
hydrogen to attain negative temperature in this (highly speculative)
hypothesis. Rossi cannot mention RF as an input in the patent, since RF
Hi Robin,
Surely that [RF] would only preclude him from getting a patent if it were
the only claim? Many patents include aspects of other patents.
Well, maybe not - but I am backing off the RF possibility anyway without
more evidence for it.
It was offered as a an effective way to stimulate
Thanks, I put this on Rossi's blog -- very interesting to read the old article.
Robert A. Heinlein in The Rolling Stones wrote fine science fiction
for teenagers in 1952 about a family vacationing from the Moon to
Mars, in a rocket powered by Single-H... I read it over and over.
Rich Murray
hmmm...consider this...
A CANDU fission reactor needs lots of slow neutrons, so it uses heavy water as
a
moderator instead of light water.
Harry
From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, January 19, 2011 9:27:47 PM
Subject: [Vo]:Deuterium kills the reaction?
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From: Rich Murray
Thanks, I put this on Rossi's blog -- very interesting to read the old
article.
Wait, there is more. And it is what many of you have been breathlessly
awaiting. Yup, it's black box
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