Re: [Vo]:New York Times- Link to : Quantum Fusion - Brillouin

2012-05-05 Thread mixent
In reply to Alain Sepeda's message of Wed, 2 May 2012 06:57:41 +0200: Hi, [snip] Note the silliness of this situation: First the proton acquires an electron, at great energy cost, to become a neutron, which, after being absorbed against it's will by T, then decays to a proton again - via

RE: [Vo]:New York Times- Link to : Quantum Fusion - Brillouin

2012-05-02 Thread Jones Beene
The current Godes/BEC effort has changed horses - and is pursuing gas-phase hydrogen, ala Thermacore/Rossi/Piantelli etc. They would rather we not associate them with that old shtick… so passé :-) There is no valid report of helium ash in protium experiments From: Eric Walker All

Re: [Vo]:New York Times- Link to : Quantum Fusion - Brillouin

2012-05-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: There is no valid report of helium ash in protium experiments Are there any invalid reports? Has anyone looked? - Jed

Re: [Vo]:New York Times- Link to : Quantum Fusion - Brillouin

2012-05-02 Thread Eric Walker
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 8:06 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Are there any invalid reports? Has anyone looked? I just looked at the relevant section of Ed Storms's book -- no easy-to-spot reference to helium evolving in a Ni-H gas system. But there is a large table of experiments

RE: [Vo]:New York Times- Link to : Quantum Fusion - Brillouin

2012-05-01 Thread Jones Beene
From: Ron Kita Ah..here is the closest find. A link to a blog called: Quantum Fusion..a nice term: The blog link is 80% down the page on the right side: http://www.nytimes.com/pages/science/index.html

Re: [Vo]:New York Times- Link to : Quantum Fusion - Brillouin

2012-05-01 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
, as it seems.  McGovern, Tom Whipple, Jeff Vail, others. Guenter. Von: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 15:40 Dienstag, 1.Mai 2012 Betreff: RE: [Vo]:New York Times- Link to : Quantum Fusion - Brillouin         From: Ron Kita

Re: [Vo]:New York Times- Link to : Quantum Fusion - Brillouin

2012-05-01 Thread Alain Sepeda
in fact they forgot to tell that the neutron is p^roduced the same so p+e+energy-n +v n+1H-2H+energy p+e+energy- n +v n+2H-3H+energy p+e+energy- n +v n+3H-4H+energy 4H - 4He + 2e+ + 2anti-v +Energy (this one is not classic, does somemone have reference on 4H disintegration branching). one

RE: [Vo]:New York Times- Link to : Quantum Fusion - Brillouin

2012-05-01 Thread Robert Leguillon
Before long, the New York Times will be but a room of servers. The editors will be relegated to choosing computer-generated stories from those most recommended for their target demographic. At least they'll have fewer typos.

Re: [Vo]:New York Times- Link to : Quantum Fusion - Brillouin

2012-05-01 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
Adam's version of the future. Guenter Von: Robert Leguillon robert.leguil...@hotmail.com An: Vortex Listserve vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 16:50 Dienstag, 1.Mai 2012 Betreff: RE: [Vo]:New York Times- Link to : Quantum Fusion - Brillouin Before long

Re: [Vo]:New York Times- Link to : Quantum Fusion - Brillouin

2012-05-01 Thread mixent
In reply to Alain Sepeda's message of Tue, 1 May 2012 16:20:36 +0200: Hi, [snip] in fact they forgot to tell that the neutron is p^roduced the same so p+e+energy-n +v n+1H-2H+energy p+e+energy- n +v n+2H-3H+energy p+e+energy- n +v n+3H-4H+energy 4H - 4He + 2e+ + 2anti-v +Energy This should

Re: [Vo]:New York Times- Link to : Quantum Fusion - Brillouin

2012-05-01 Thread Alain Sepeda
2012/5/2 mix...@bigpond.com 4H - 4He + 2e+ + 2anti-v +Energy This should be 4H - 4He + e- + anti-v + Energy. (4H is one proton and three neutrons). Oops, right, thanks for correction it is more simple. Note the silliness of this situation: First the proton acquires an electron, at

Re: [Vo]:New York Times- Link to : Quantum Fusion - Brillouin

2012-05-01 Thread Eric Walker
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 7:30 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: All the Godes/BEC are required to do - in order to silence the skeptics (and at the same time receive all the funding they can ever use) is to demonstrate conclusively the appearance of Helium in the ash. Helium ash is a