RE: [Vo]:Solar cell lifetime in space

2022-12-22 Thread Arnaud Kodeck
urface of a pipe to have a layer like 100~1000µm? What will be the behaviour with heating/cooling cycles over time. From: MSF Sent: 22 December 2022 02:23 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Solar cell lifetime in space I'm not sure of the actual crystalline structure, but it's no

RE: [Vo]:Solar cell lifetime in space

2022-12-21 Thread MSF
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Solar cell lifetime in space > > I was working with this method of surface treatment of glass more decades ago > than I care to remember. You simply immerse ordinary glass into a bath of > molten potassium nitrate and the sodium Ions at the surface are replaced

RE: [Vo]:Solar cell lifetime in space

2022-12-21 Thread Arnaud Kodeck
What is the crystal structure of the adhered layer ? Amorphous (sort of silica gel) or crystallized (crystalline quartz) ? From: MSF Sent: 21 December 2022 00:00 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Solar cell lifetime in space I was working with this method of surface treatment

Re: [Vo]:Solar cell lifetime in space

2022-12-20 Thread MSF
Interesting... But I can't believe it took so long to get around to what should have been obvious. --- Original Message --- On Wednesday, December 21st, 2022 at 12:07 AM, Andrew Meulenberg wrote: > Things have gone beyond simple UV protection. At a quick glance, I found this > from

Re: [Vo]:Solar cell lifetime in space

2022-12-20 Thread Robin
In reply to MSF's message of Tue, 20 Dec 2022 22:59:35 +: Hi Michael, >I recently discovered a method of depositing a layer of silica on any given >surface using a ridiculously simple and inexpensive technique. This is >something that should have been discovered 200 or so years ago, but

Re: [Vo]:Solar cell lifetime in space

2022-12-20 Thread Andrew Meulenberg
Things have gone beyond simple UV protection. At a quick glance, I found this from 2014: "Ion exchange doping of solar cell coverglass for sunlight down-shifting"

Re: [Vo]:Solar cell lifetime in space

2022-12-20 Thread MSF
I was working with this method of surface treatment of glass more decades ago than I care to remember. You simply immerse ordinary glass into a bath of molten potassium nitrate and the sodium Ions at the surface are replaced with potassium ions, resulting in a highly impact resistant glass.

Re: [Vo]:Solar cell lifetime in space

2022-12-20 Thread Andrew Meulenberg
onger know). Andrew -- Forwarded message - From: MSF Date: Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Solar cell lifetime in space To: I guess this is getting off into the weeds a bit, but is the quartz layer doped with cerium in the mass? Or is the cerium diffused into t

Re: [Vo]:Solar cell lifetime in space

2022-12-20 Thread Robin
In reply to Andrew Meulenberg's message of Mon, 19 Dec 2022 20:26:52 -0600: Hi Andrew, Thanks for the info. It's nice to have comment from an "insider". :) >Robin, > >The whole deal is a set of tradeoffs that depends on the environment to be >encountered. At some altitudes, the Van Allen Belts

Re: [Vo]:Solar cell lifetime in space

2022-12-20 Thread MSF
I guess this is getting off into the weeds a bit, but is the quartz layer doped with cerium in the mass? Or is the cerium diffused into the surface by immersion in a molten cerium compound? --- Original Message --- On Tuesday, December 20th, 2022 at 2:26 AM, Andrew Meulenberg wrote:

Re: [Vo]:Solar cell lifetime in space

2022-12-19 Thread Andrew Meulenberg
Robin, The whole deal is a set of tradeoffs that depends on the environment to be encountered. At some altitudes, the Van Allen Belts have too much penetrating radiation to allow solar cells to be used for long-term missions. Addition of coverslides makes the solarcell assembly vulnerable to

Re: [Vo]:Solar cell lifetime in space

2022-12-19 Thread Robin
In reply to Andrew Meulenberg's message of Mon, 19 Dec 2022 00:25:20 -0600: Hi Andrew, I'm sure it does, however the high energy particles from other sources are also present, so it seems to be fairly effective against them too? Otherwise surely it would have been noticed that cells in space

Re: [Vo]:Solar cell lifetime in space

2022-12-18 Thread Andrew Meulenberg
Robin, This thickness of coverslide stops the low-energy trapped protons of the Van Allen belts that would cut the cell efficiency by ~30% in not too many months. Andrew On Sun, Dec 18, 2022 at 6:38 PM Robin wrote: > Hi, > > ESA apparently place a 0.1 mm layer of glass before their solar