RE: [Vo]:Some reasons Rossi has personal credibility

2013-05-24 Thread DJ Cravens
feet up on the desk I wish I had a "like" button. D2 Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 10:33:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Some reasons Rossi has personal credibility From: jedrothw...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Robert Lynn wrote: Strange, in my observation 3 things defin

Re: [Vo]:Some reasons Rossi has personal credibility

2013-05-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
Robert Lynn wrote: Strange, in my observation 3 things define the best engineers I know (of > few hundred I have met): > 1 Excellent/encyclopedic memory - at least for engineering stuff, may not > be able to remember their friends names or where they put their keys. > 2 Good at mental calculation

Re: [Vo]:Some reasons Rossi has personal credibility

2013-05-24 Thread Peter Gluck
Dear Robert, as an engineer with more than 53 years practice, in my opinion the definitory virtues of an engineer are; a) Problem solving mentality and ability (real life problems); b) Dedication to technological progress in his field c)Work discipline in sys-thinking (systematic and system based)

Re: [Vo]:Some reasons Rossi has personal credibility

2013-05-24 Thread Andrew
). Andrew - Original Message - From: Robert Lynn To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 12:03 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Some reasons Rossi has personal credibility Strange, in my observation 3 things define the best engineers I know (of few hundred I have met): 1

Re: [Vo]:Some reasons Rossi has personal credibility

2013-05-24 Thread Robert Lynn
Strange, in my observation 3 things define the best engineers I know (of few hundred I have met): 1 Excellent/encyclopedic memory - at least for engineering stuff, may not be able to remember their friends names or where they put their keys. 2 Good at mental calculation (assess what-ifs quickly). 3

Re: [Vo]:Some reasons Rossi has personal credibility

2013-05-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
Craig wrote: > . . . it doesn't surprise me > that someone with a poor memory can also be an excellent engineer. The > two traits go together. With me, for instance, it's because I have a > hard time remembering, that I have become an excellent problem solver. > When I look at code that I've wri

Re: [Vo]:Some reasons Rossi has personal credibility

2013-05-23 Thread Craig
If I could elaborate a little bit more on this: it doesn't surprise me that someone with a poor memory can also be an excellent engineer. The two traits go together. With me, for instance, it's because I have a hard time remembering, that I have become an excellent problem solver. When I look at co

Re: [Vo]:Some reasons Rossi has personal credibility

2013-05-23 Thread Craig
On 05/22/2013 11:01 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > > It is strange how a detailed-oriented engineer sometimes throws > discipline aside and blunders ahead like an amateur. I am a big fan of > structured programming with meaningful variable names, but I once > dashed off a quick and dirty program for Chr

Re: [Vo]:Some reasons Rossi has personal credibility

2013-05-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
MarkI-ZeroPoint wrote: > Did he discuss his visit in detail with Rossi so that they both were on > the same page as to what to expect? > As I wrote here at the time, before Rossi invited Krivit, he invited me. He described what he would do, in detail. I said I would bring my own instruments and

RE: [Vo]:Some reasons Rossi has personal credibility

2013-05-23 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
>From Mark: >> SVJ writes, "I thought Krivit had been 'honored' with a so-called >> demo when he visited Rossi's lab." > What Krivit was likely EXPECTING was a 'test'; > what he GOT was a 'demo'; two very different things. > > Was it reasonable for Krivit (a journalist) to expect the s

RE: [Vo]:Some reasons Rossi has personal credibility

2013-05-22 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
SVJ writes, "I thought Krivit had been 'honored' with a so-called demo when he visited Rossi's lab." What Krivit was likely EXPECTING was a 'test'; what he GOT was a 'demo'; two very different things. Was it reasonable for Krivit (a journalist) to expect the same kind of 'test' done for a g

Re: [Vo]:Some reasons Rossi has personal credibility

2013-05-22 Thread Jed Rothwell
OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: > I thought Krivit had been "honored" with a so-called demo when he visited > Rossi's lab. Unfortunately, all the evidence we had been presented with > suggested the fact that the demonstration Krivit had personally witnessed > had been a fake. No anomal

RE: [Vo]:Some reasons Rossi has personal credibility

2013-05-22 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Regarding the following statement: > Get a life! These people like Krivit, etc -- who blindly > suggest scam because they personally were not honored with a > demo -- ought to at least do their homework first and read what is > available in the public record before spouting crap about scam,

Re: [Vo]:Some reasons Rossi has personal credibility

2013-05-22 Thread Andrew
Jed, This is a marvellous post. Thanks. Andrew - Original Message - From: Jed Rothwell To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 11:19 AM Subject: [Vo]:Some reasons Rossi has personal credibility We all know that Rossi has some personal credibility problems. H

Re: [Vo]:Some reasons Rossi has personal credibility

2013-05-22 Thread Peter Gluck
Jed, I just want tell you as somebody with research and practical experience in pyrolysis of organics, mainly polymers including rubber- that the Petroldragon affair was most probably 80% techno-blunder and 20% scam, very uninspired.The disaster was predictable. On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 9:19 PM,

Re: [Vo]:Some reasons Rossi has personal credibility

2013-05-22 Thread Alan Fletcher
> From: "Jed Rothwell" > Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 11:19:13 AM > Subject: [Vo]:Some reasons Rossi has personal credibility > But they also build things that most > people think are impossible, such as the Brooklyn Bridge Bad analogy. I hear it's for sale too.