2008 00:23
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:The (possible) oil peak rolls on
In reply to Taylor J. Smith's message of Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:58:37
+:
Hi,
[snip]
I'm sure if lemmings could
talk, they would have very good reasons for marching into the ocean.
[snip]
Apparently that film
are oil prices really climbing or is the dollar falling?
Regards
Andreas
-Original Message-
From: Robin van Spaandonk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: den 21 april 2008 00:23
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:The (possible) oil peak rolls on
In reply to Taylor J. Smith's message
Andreas wrote,
If I buy oil in SEK or Euro the oil prices has almost stood still...
So are oil prices really climbing or is the dollar falling?
Howdy Andreas,
You peeked !
One must understand that in order to enjoy watching the Wizard of Oz, one
must accept the rules of the game... do not
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
This is the first time I post on this message board, so please be gentle
=)
I just wanted to provide an outside view on the rising oil prices. To me
it seems like the value of $ has been dropping and if you look at the
increased price of oil and compare it
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008, Edmund Storms wrote:
I'm confused. Perhaps someone on this list has the
answer. Everyone who has discussed the issues here seems
to agree to the following:
1. Increase in energy cost will drive up food and other
commodity prices, which will reduce consumer spending.
2.
In reply to Taylor J. Smith's message of Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:58:37 +:
Hi,
[snip]
I'm sure if lemmings could
talk, they would have very good reasons for marching into
the ocean.
[snip]
Apparently that film was a fake. Lemmings don't actually march into the ocean.
It seems only humans are that
Edmund Storms wrote:
While I agree with much of what you say, Richard, I don't think stock
trading needs to be gambling. It is too easy to evaluate reality and
choose stocks that always make money, at least for awhile. Its rather
like counting cards in 21, which moves the odds away from
R C Macaulay wrote:
A share of stock.. any stock is only worth what you can sell it for.
It used to have some relationship with a company's net worth and/or
assets and keyed to the dividend paid each year. NO MORE.. few
dividends are paid out anymore
FYI:
Median dividend yield for all
becuase the stock market has nothing to do with long term income of
individual companies. Companies are rewarded on the stock market for
doing things that hurt them, suck as firing people and raising prices.
The stock market is based on making as much as possible with as
little investment and
I'm confused. Perhaps someone on this list has the answer. Everyone who
has discussed the issues here seems to agree to the following:
1. Increase in energy cost will drive up food and other commodity
prices, which will reduce consumer spending.
2. Increased cost of personal transportation
Short answer: Because the stock market is not really going up ;-)
Yes, it may look at first glance like there have been some small increases in
the market, in terms of its listed valuation in $US ...
...but thanks to the continuation of the Bush record budget deficits, in terms
of real worth
Edmund Storms wrote:
I'm confused. Perhaps someone on this list has the answer. Everyone
who has discussed the issues here seems to agree to the following:
1. Increase in energy cost will drive up food and other commodity
prices, which will reduce consumer spending.
Yes, and increasing
Correction - not even half as they say...
Way more than half of the value of the US stock market has been lost in the
last few years.
Thank you W, and thank you neocons for the most disastrous US Presidency since
WWII.
Like a bumper sticker seen recently:
Never Thought I'd Miss Nixon
On 18/4/2008 3:56 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
Edmund Storms wrote:
I'm confused. Perhaps someone on this list has the answer. Everyone
who has discussed the issues here seems to agree to the following:
1. Increase in energy cost will drive up food and other commodity
prices, which
Yes Jones, the market has dropped from its recent record high near
14000, but presently it has gone up from slightly below 12000 to now
near 12800 while all kinds of bad things are becoming perfectly obvious.
Someone must be buying stocks without any concern about the real world
conditions. I
Thanks Steve, this is a very nice summary. However, even I, a
nonbusiness student, can see the flaws when the logic is applied to the
present situation. When the business cycle turns around, it is because
some basic money making process is improved. In the process, consumer
demand goes up
There is also a contrarian philosophy that seems to work for some
investors: Buy when everyone else is dumping like terrified rats
leaving a sinking ship. Often, when certain stocks seem to be tanking
and headed for the worst, that's exactly the time when contrarians
begin investing. Sometimes, it
In reply to Edmund Storms's message of Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:59:08 -0600:
Hi,
[snip]
Yes Jones, the market has dropped from its recent record high near
14000, but presently it has gone up from slightly below 12000 to now
near 12800 while all kinds of bad things are becoming perfectly obvious.
The difficulty in understanding the stock market has it root in not
recognizing exactly what it is.
The stock market is a legal form of gambling. It IS the great game !
Of the gambling casino parlours in the great game.. commodities are the
roulette tables. The players at this table operate
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