Re: [Vo]:High energy protons emissions/Nov.1 Piantelli Patent

2012-11-14 Thread mixent
In reply to Eric Walker's message of Tue, 13 Nov 2012 20:04:00 -0800: Hi, There is another problem I have with the Rydberg option. I would expect elongated atoms to orient themselves in exactly the opposite direction to that needed to facilitate fusion, i.e. with the proton as *far* from the

Re: [Vo]:High energy protons emissions/Nov.1 Piantelli Patent

2012-11-14 Thread Eric Walker
Maybe there is an application to be found in *reducing* the fusion cross section. ;) Eric On Nov 14, 2012, at 12:17, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Eric Walker's message of Tue, 13 Nov 2012 20:04:00 -0800: Hi, There is another problem I have with the Rydberg option. I would expect

RE: [Vo]:High energy protons emissions/Nov.1 Piantelli Patent

2012-11-14 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Eric Walker Maybe there is an [IRH] application to be found in *reducing* the fusion cross section. ;) It was suggested years ago that a hybrid of Hot Fusion and LENR might be possible, especially with so-called desktop accelerators and extreme loading

Re: [Vo]:High energy protons emissions/Nov.1 Piantelli Patent

2012-11-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Perhaps the easiest way to imagine this kind of hot-cold-hybrid would be based on ICF (inertial confinement) ... where the cost savings comes from using LENR loading techniques to manufacture implosion pellets for irradiation via coherent beam

Re: [Vo]:High energy protons emissions/Nov.1 Piantelli Patent

2012-11-14 Thread ChemE Stewart
Neutrinos knock off protons thru Beta Decay, bad for DNA, what can I say... Stewart Darkmattersalot.com On Wednesday, November 14, 2012, Jed Rothwell wrote: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'jone...@pacbell.net'); wrote: Perhaps the easiest way to imagine this kind

Re: [Vo]:High energy protons emissions/Nov.1 Piantelli Patent

2012-11-14 Thread Jeff Berkowitz
There's actually a whole spectrum of these ideas, correct? For example Robin's concept of using an MCF device as a source of 14.1MeV neutrons to force fission in actinides (e.g. nuclear waste). Has anyone tried to summarize or assemble a list of these? It could span from the completely mainstream

Re: [Vo]:High energy protons emissions/Nov.1 Piantelli Patent

2012-11-13 Thread mixent
In reply to Eric Walker's message of Mon, 12 Nov 2012 21:42:01 -0800: Hi, [snip] On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 12:39 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: All of these are explained if the active particle is a f/H molecule. 1. The molecule is neutral, thus is not bothered by the Ni electrons. 2. There are

Re: [Vo]:High energy protons emissions/Nov.1 Piantelli Patent

2012-11-13 Thread Eric Walker
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 12:30 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: Is there such a thing as deformed Rydberg H2 (as opposed to H)? I'm not too familiar with the details, but it looks like you can get Rydberg H2. http://prl.aps.org/abstract/PRL/v95/i13/e133202 I suspect there will be deformation

Re: [Vo]:High energy protons emissions/Nov.1 Piantelli Patent

2012-11-12 Thread Eric Walker
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 12:39 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: All of these are explained if the active particle is a f/H molecule. 1. The molecule is neutral, thus is not bothered by the Ni electrons. 2. There are no gamma rays because only one of the two protons fuses, the other being ejected

Re: [Vo]:High energy protons emissions/Nov.1 Piantelli Patent

2012-11-11 Thread Eric Walker
On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 8:06 PM, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote: Are Ni+H Nuclear-Reactions Possible www.iscmns.org/work10/TakahashiAarenihnucl.ppt I see now where you're coming from. There has been an ongoing question of whether there is proton capture with the nickel atoms themselves, and I

Re: [Vo]:High energy protons emissions/Nov.1 Piantelli Patent

2012-11-11 Thread mixent
In reply to Eric Walker's message of Sun, 11 Nov 2012 11:13:34 -0800: Hi, [snip] In the slides, Takahashi raises several objections to Ni+p: 1. Ni+p is implausible because the proton would get caught up in the outer electron shells before it made it to the nucleus. 2. There should be lethal

Re: [Vo]:High energy protons emissions/Nov.1 Piantelli Patent

2012-11-10 Thread Eric Walker
On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 11:11 AM, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote: Also, the document claims that high energy protons are emitted (6.7 MeV from Ni, page 4). I believe Piantelli has recorded high energy protons from previous experiments, even hours after the experiment finished. Has this been

Re: [Vo]:High energy protons emissions/Nov.1 Piantelli Patent

2012-11-10 Thread pagnucco
The paper is quite long. Perhaps I am misunderstanding some of it, but I think the claim is that proton capture occurs as the major energy source. Hasn't Takahashi shown it's pretty unlikely? Also, I could be recalling incorrectly, but haven't Rossi/Focardi changed their opinion on this? And,

Re: [Vo]:High energy protons emissions/Nov.1 Piantelli Patent

2012-11-10 Thread Eric Walker
On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 1:47 PM, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote: The paper is quite long. Perhaps I am misunderstanding some of it, but I think the claim is that proton capture occurs as the major energy source. Hasn't Takahashi shown it's pretty unlikely? If you or anyone else knows of a

Re: [Vo]:High energy protons emissions/Nov.1 Piantelli Patent

2012-11-10 Thread pagnucco
Eric, I cannot identify the correct theory, but in case you haven't seen a couple of Takahashi's publications, see - Are Ni+H Nuclear-Reactions Possible www.iscmns.org/work10/TakahashiAarenihnucl.ppt and the related - Physics of Cold Fusion by TSC Theory http://vixra.org/pdf/1209.0091v1.pdf