Re: [Vo]:Shouldn't we consider the free chat GPT3.5 AGI?

2023-04-10 Thread Jürg Wyttenbach
GPT is at tool used in computer linguistics since more than 10 years. It was just a matter of time until some brainless nerds would use it for KI... GPT just analysis and classifies text >the texts you give GPT. So its not KI its the condensed shit some people want to throw at you.

Re: [Vo]:Shouldn't we consider the free chat GPT3.5 AGI?

2023-04-10 Thread Boom
Indeed, it can. It comes up with fake information. But now it is heavily moderated to not allow that. Em seg., 10 de abr. de 2023 às 16:33, H L V escreveu: > Can it dream? > Harry > > On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 11:49 AM Alain Sepeda > wrote: > >> There are works to allow LLM to discuss in order

Re: [Vo]:Shouldn't we consider the free chat GPT3.5 AGI?

2023-04-10 Thread Robin
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Mon, 10 Apr 2023 09:33:48 -0400: Hi, [snip] >I hope that an advanced AGI *will* have a concept of the real world, and it >will know the difference. I do not think that the word "care" applies here, >but if we tell it not to use a machine gun in the real

Re: [Vo]:Shouldn't we consider the free chat GPT3.5 AGI?

2023-04-10 Thread Robin
In reply to Alain Sepeda's message of Mon, 10 Apr 2023 17:48:38 +0200: Hi, [snip] >The real difference is that today, AI are not the fruit of a Darwinian >evolution, with struggle to survive, dominate, eat or be eaten, so it's >less frightening than people or animals. The way a neural network

Re: [Vo]:Shouldn't we consider the free chat GPT3.5 AGI?

2023-04-10 Thread H L V
Can it dream? Harry On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 11:49 AM Alain Sepeda wrote: > There are works to allow LLM to discuss in order to have reflection... > I've seen reference to an architecture where two GPT instances talk to > each other, with different roles, one as a searcher, the other as a >

Re: [Vo]:Shouldn't we consider the free chat GPT3.5 AGI?

2023-04-10 Thread Alain Sepeda
There are works to allow LLM to discuss in order to have reflection... I've seen reference to an architecture where two GPT instances talk to each other, with different roles, one as a searcher, the other as a critic... Look at this article. LLM may just be the building block of something

Re: [Vo]:Shouldn't we consider the free chat GPT3.5 AGI?

2023-04-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: > Food is contaminated despite our best efforts to prevent that. > Contamination is a complex process that we do not fully understand or > control, although of course we know a lot about it. It seems to me that as > AI becomes more capable it may become easier to understand, and more >

Re: [Vo]:Shouldn't we consider the free chat GPT3.5 AGI?

2023-04-10 Thread Sean True
LLM do not have intrinsic short or modifiable long term memory. Both require supplemental systems - reprompting of recent history or expensive offline fine tuning or even more expensive retraining.I think it’s fair to say no AGI until those are designed in, particularly the ability to actually

Re: [Vo]:Shouldn't we consider the free chat GPT3.5 AGI?

2023-04-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
Robin wrote: As I said earlier, it may not make any difference whether an AI > feels/thinks as we do, or just mimics the process. That is certainly true. As you pointed out, the AI has no concept of the real world, so it's not > going to care whether it's shooting people up > in a video

Re: [Vo]:Shouldn't we consider the free chat GPT3.5 AGI?

2023-04-08 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
GPT4 can have unlimited memory, right? Just give it access to a query engine. Max token context length (input PLUS output) is 32k in the latest model. GPT3.5 is 4096. https://openai.com/pricing Importantly, GPT4 has built 'world models' as a side effect of its training. And when it predicts

Re: [Vo]:Shouldn't we consider the free chat GPT3.5 AGI?

2023-04-08 Thread Boom
The most recent versions of Stockfish, the best chess engines, combines "brute force", the usual branching algorithm, with NN. ChatGTP 4.0 (which is actually quite similar to 3.5) uses plugins to be smarter. For example, it can evoke wolfram alpha if it needs to make calculations. This modular

Re: [Vo]:Shouldn't we consider the free chat GPT3.5 AGI?

2023-04-08 Thread Robin
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Sat, 8 Apr 2023 20:04:46 -0400: Hi, As I said earlier, it may not make any difference whether an AI feels/thinks as we do, or just mimics the process. The outcome could be just as disastrous if it mimics committing murder, as it would be if it had murder

Re: [Vo]:Shouldn't we consider the free chat GPT3.5 AGI?

2023-04-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: > The methods used to program ChatGPT and light years away from anything > like human cognition. As different as what bees do with their brains > compared to what we do. > To take another example, the human brain can add 2 + 2 = 4. A computer ALU can also do this, in binary arithmetic.

Re: [Vo]:Shouldn't we consider the free chat GPT3.5 AGI?

2023-04-08 Thread Boom
Example, I used chatgtp to come up with a theory explaining the origin of eukaryotes. The part I enhanced was something that chatgtp came up with. In the theory of the origin of eukaryotes, we have discussed how colonies of prokaryotic cells started transporting vesicles by kinesin, which crossed

Re: [Vo]:Shouldn't we consider the free chat GPT3.5 AGI?

2023-04-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
Robin wrote: > For example, if asked "Can you pour water into > > a glass made of sugar?", ChatGPT might provide a grammatically correct > but > > nonsensical response, whereas a human with common sense would recognize > > that a sugar glass would dissolve in water. > > so where did

Re: [Vo]:Shouldn't we consider the free chat GPT3.5 AGI?

2023-04-08 Thread Robin
In reply to Boom's message of Sat, 8 Apr 2023 20:26:43 -0300: Hi, [snip] >It has a very short memory. It's something like 30kb. ...so's mine nowadays. :( >If the conversation >gets a little bit longer, it starts forgetting stuff, though it more ore >less keep track of the sense of the topic.

Re: [Vo]:Shouldn't we consider the free chat GPT3.5 AGI?

2023-04-08 Thread Boom
It has a very short memory. It's something like 30kb. If the conversation gets a little bit longer, it starts forgetting stuff, though it more ore less keep track of the sense of the topic. Em sáb., 8 de abr. de 2023 às 19:50, Robin escreveu: > Hi, > > The point I have been trying to make is

Re: [Vo]:Shouldn't we consider the free chat GPT3.5 AGI?

2023-04-08 Thread Robin
Hi, The point I have been trying to make is that if we program something to behave like a human, it may end up doing exactly that. Cloud storage:- Unsafe, Slow, Expensive ...pick any three.

Re: [Vo]:Shouldn't we consider the free chat GPT3.5 AGI?

2023-04-08 Thread Boom
Yes, but have you tried to jailbreak it, this was a condition I told you about. This type of answer is done by a moderation bot. Em sáb., 8 de abr. de 2023 às 15:40, Jed Rothwell escreveu: > Boom wrote: > > >> For those who used it in the first few days, when bot moderation was not >>

Re: [Vo]:Shouldn't we consider the free chat GPT3.5 AGI?

2023-04-08 Thread Robin
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Sat, 8 Apr 2023 14:40:08 -0400: Hi, [snip] >ME: ChatGPT is not considered artificial general intelligence (AGI). What >qualities of AGI are lacking in ChatGPT? > >ChatGPT: ChatGPT, as a language model, has a narrow focus on generating >human-like text based

Re: [Vo]:Shouldn't we consider the free chat GPT3.5 AGI?

2023-04-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
Boom wrote: > For those who used it in the first few days, when bot moderation was not > installed properly, of right now, if it is jailbroken, GPT works just as > well as a very smart human. With a few tweeks (like making it use math AI, > wolfram alpha which surpassed humans decades ago, or