Re: 1997 - 2005 the missing SMOT years
--- Public [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you seen this?: http://www.reidarfinsrud.no/sider/mobile/foto.html Hi Craig, Not to be a wet blanket but that big spring in the central column could be a worry? Now it's just engineering effort, time and money, Greg Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com
Re: Re: Long Delayed Echoes
From: Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL PROTECTED] That still doesn't answer my question though. I'm sorry, the question was regarding googling echo returns from the moon?
Re: Shell and Arie DeGeus
Thanks Mark Goldes for making mention of the connection with DeGeus and Shell. As I recall the news article , Shell emphasized the point that Shell was spending their research money on hydrogen. Looking at the background of Shell's new US head, I see he has worked with the "right" people .. like GE etc. Why do I get the feeling the winners have already been decided before the game is played grin Richard Blank Bkgrd.gif
RE: ICCF-11 papers are depressing
Michael Foster wrote: I wish everyone would give up on the electrolysis work. I think it's just an interesting dead end. No way to scale it up commercially. Agreed. Too much energyinvested into getting the effect. A bit soon to say anything for certain, but the 10 stacked (tissue paper spacer) Neodymium super magnets (10 mm OD x 5 mm ID)in 100 grams of distilled H2O (about ~ 10^19 deuterons/gram H2O) in well-insulated "cups" are showing a few degree C temperature rise over a 48 hour soak. At 1.0 milliwatts it should take 116 hours (4.8 days) to get 1.0 deg C temperature rise. A similar well-insulated cup with a ceramic magnet stack is showing lessor or null results. I've got about $10.00 US and plenty of free time invested in this thing so far. But, since the Neodymium super magnets are only good up to 8o deg Cif it pans out I have an eye on using it for nuke waste remediation. Maybe. Frederick
RE: ICCF-11 papers are depressing
Michael Foster wrote: I wouldn't be so depressed if I were you. There are plenty of us out there doing CF research with very encouraging results who are just not publishing anything until the patent situation changes. Frankly, I doubt there are any that could rival Szpak or Iwamura I wish everyone would give up on the electrolysis work. Most of the experimental papers are about glow discharge or ion beam work. - Jed
Re: ICCF-11 papers have arrived
Robin van Spaandonk wrote: In what sense do [the papers] need to be edited? In papers written by non-native speakers, the English needs work. There is a broad range of problems. Papers by German authors may need a few minor adjustments of the definite and indefinite articles (the and a). Papers written by Japanese authors have many mistakes but I know how to fix them. Papers written by Russians tend to be the most difficult for me. Here is an example. Before editing: ANNOTATION The study of structure of elemental and isotopic composition of Ti cathode before and after an irradiation by ions glow discharge in plasma with an excess heat effect was fulfilled. The exposure was carried out by deuterium ions with a voltage of the discharge less than 1000 volt, with current of 10-20 . After corrections and consulting with the author: ABSTRACTIn this study we report on the surface structure, distribution and isotopic composition of elements found on Ti cathodes before and after glow discharge in plasma, during which excess heat was produced. Irradiation was carried out with deuterium ions with a discharge voltage below 1000 volts, with a current of 10 to 20 mA. the LENR-CANR collection, because people come to the site to learn about cold fusion, not these other subjects. There may well be a link between CF transmutation and traditional alchemy. There may be, but for that matter there is probably a link between CF and special relativity (mass-energy equivalence), yet I do not have papers about relativity at LENR-CANR.org. In the broadest sense CF is probably related to many different fields. If you want to read about these other fields you go to textbooks or web sites about them. If a paper about traditional alchemy included a section with specific suggestions showing how it might be linked to CF, I would include it, even if I thought the link was bogus. A paper showing a relationship between relativity and CF would also be acceptable. I will grant the restriction is somewhat arbitrary, but if we have no restrictions we will end up with a huge pile of unrelated material, which will make it difficult for people to find what they are looking for. Furthermore, as I said, people who want to learn about alchemy on the Internet can do that very easily thanks to Google. We do not need to supply the links anymore. People make their own links. - Jed
[OT] Heavy Metal Recall
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/story.jsp?story=634679 A newly discovered fragment of the oldest surviving copy of the New Testament indicates that, as far as the Antichrist goes, theologians, scholars, heavy metal groups, and television evangelists have got the wrong number. Instead of 666, it's actually the far less ominous 616. Hmmm, I wonder if they will change the ProctorGamble logo? :-)
Example of borderline paper
Below is a good example of a paper that may or may not have anything to do with CF. This one looks borderline to me. Perhaps it is more about conventional nuclear physics than CF. The paper describes an exotic theory about magnetic monopolls causing the Chernobyl explosion. I guess that makes it loosely related. Furthermore, the authors might find it difficult to publish this at some other web site, so I would include it. Whether the hypothesis is scientifically valid or not is another issue, which in this case I am not qualified to judge. This sample also gives you an idea of the quality of the English in a typical paper. It is not bad. A half-hour of editing should whip it into shape. - Jed - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - On the possible magnetic mechanism of shortening the runaway of RBMK-1000 reactor at Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant D.V. Filippov, G. Lochak, A.A. Rukhadze, L.I. Urutskoev The official conclusion about the origin of the explosion at the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant (CNPP) is shown to contradict significantly the experimental facts available from the accident. The period of reactor runaway in the accident is shown to be unexplainable in the framework of the existing physical models of nuclear fission reactor. A hypothesis is suggested for a possible magnetic mechanism which may be responsible for the rise-up of the reactor reactivity coefficient at the fourth power generating unit of CNPP in the course of testing the turbine generator via running it under its own momentum.
Re: 1997 - 2005 the missing SMOT years
On Tue, 3 May 2005 16:43:39 +1000 (EST), you wrote: --- Public [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you seen this?: http://www.reidarfinsrud.no/sider/mobile/foto.html Hi Craig, Not to be a wet blanket but that big spring in the central column could be a worry? --- In what respect? -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer
Re: BLP implementation path
On Monday 02 May 2005 20:17, Mike Carrell wrote: Standing Bear wrote: snip Good use for it. Another use may be to utilize it for rocket propulsion. There was a government funded study that stopped short of testing the power of this rocket. Then nothing. Probably working now and highly classified. This just may have been the real ticket for actual operation of the recently cancelled single stage to orbit shuttle, one of the 'X' series, X43 or something...could look it up but some of you know of this anyway. What we need is a good single stage to orbit shuttle. Would'nt this be nice if it worked? A tangle of missing information and unjustified conclusions. Point taken! An 'error' concerning missing trivia; but much science concerns data previousely lost in 'trivia', like integrals involving the base of natural logarithms and where the solutions led, and the eventual solution of problems involving the radius of gryation of a solid objects bounded by ,say, discontinuous functionslike a rectangular cross section. However, focusing on trivia in a rhetorical sense often says more about the character of the critic than the original author who at least has the guts to present material for peer review, not to mention debating devices such as straw men which become obvious in the next paragraph. Rowan University in New Jersey got a Phase I project from a NASA brand to investigate BLP reactioors for possible use as thrusters for deep space probes where specific impulse overlong times is of the essence. The grant was for $75,000 which was very effectively spent by the Rowan crew, including getting used high vacuum hardware on eBay. By the tiem the money ran out they had not been able to positively demonstrate high veolcity gas from the reactor by spectroscopy because of the glare from the plasma itself. A planned experiment to measure the thrust of the gas in a vacuum chamber was not completed because of lack of funds. NASA declined to find a Phase 2 program, and the project died. Data above shows an interest in the project that led to discovery of many heretofore unknown details. The project ended in all likelyhood not because of its lack of merit but because of bean counters who lacked vision, a frequent occurance with government projects not in current fashion no matter what the merit. Conversely, the British once fully funded studies on a battleship made of ice, purely to mollify a fearful public during the depths of World War II. Many phase one studies did not get a second chance. The non-award of a phase II for this was shortly after the cancellation of the Breakthrough Propulsion Physics office and the phase down of NIAC. No new studies came after this 'Bush cut' a couple of years ago. Just ask Dr Mark Millis! Somebody will claim no proof of this kind of 'science driven by accountancy', just like anti-war columnists waffled when confronted by the mass murder in Cambodia. They said there was no proof as well, while knowing that no one would venture into Cambodia into the heart of darkness of the Angkha Leouw and be alive long enough to even get anywhere near to the proof. The hypocrisy was palpable! At the present level of applicaitons work at BLP only feeble thrust could be expected, suitable for a deep space probe where thurst with a high specific impulse operating over long periods can achieve very high velocities. Mike Carrell Perhaps the high glare was indicative of high energy output per reactant mass. Energy output may have more forms than just imparting force to gaseous reaction products. The radiation is energy as well, and at lightspeed! Given the theoretical quantum nature of light as some solutions of the Schroedinger equations impart a particle like behavior now represented by 'photons', it becomes logical to ask how much mass could a photon have? Many references claim no mass for these, however they qualify the statement by claiming this to be true for the particle's rest mass, leaving unclear the mass when the photon is not at rest. Since traveling at the so called 'speed of light' is the photon's usual condition, and light has been proven to be influenced by static gravity (gravitational lensing effect), one can easily speculate a non-zero mass for the photon that is not at rest. Brian C. Doyle, on his web page: http://www.pa.uky.edu/~doyleb/current.html gives ideas of measuring the mass of photons by measuring their quantum chromodynamic products. Rodrick Lakes of the University of Wisconsin theorized an upper limit for the rest mass of the photon to be about 7 x (10 ^ [-17]) eV back in 1998 in a report on the following web page: http://newton.ex.ac.uk/aip/physnews.361.html There have been other studies since. The possibility of a rest mass for the photon has broad implications for physics, if it can be proven. At this point, the issue is open wide
Re: ICCF-11 papers are depressing
Jed Rothwell wrote: These ICCF-11 papers are depressing. There are only a few experimental papers. Most are reviews of old work, or papers about theory. As far as I can tell, most of the theory is of the crackpot variety, and usually about subjects unrelated to CF, such as POSSIBLE NUCLEAR TRANSMUTATION OF NITROGEN IN THE EARTH'S ATMOSPHERE. This field is dying, and I cannot think of any way to save it. Quite the opposite, Jed. The field is moving forward on several fronts. The field has now changed in two important ways. People who have had some success are now exploring parameter space to improve the effect. This work is not being published because it has patent potential. In contrast, the effect is so hard to produce that most people have little to talk about, so they fill a meeting with theory. The evidence has now reached a critical mass so people who do not have an ego to protect realize an important reality has been discovered. Consequently, money is stating to flow into the field. As successful work is replicated and as a few of the methods reach large energy production rates, even the skeptics will be silenced and politicians will risk supporting the field. The problem now is only psychological. This is the time when people having courage and an open mind start down the road to fame and riches. Ed - Jed
Re: Example of borderline paper
On Tuesday 03 May 2005 11:08, Jed Rothwell wrote: Below is a good example of a paper that may or may not have anything to do with CF. This one looks borderline to me. Perhaps it is more about conventional nuclear physics than CF. The paper describes an exotic theory about magnetic monopolls causing the Chernobyl explosion. I guess that makes it loosely related. Furthermore, the authors might find it difficult to publish this at some other web site, so I would include it. Whether the hypothesis is scientifically valid or not is another issue, which in this case I am not qualified to judge. This sample also gives you an idea of the quality of the English in a typical paper. It is not bad. A half-hour of editing should whip it into shape. - Jed - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - On the possible magnetic mechanism of shortening the runaway of RBMK-1000 reactor at Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant D.V. Filippov, G. Lochak, A.A. Rukhadze, L.I. Urutskoev The official conclusion about the origin of the explosion at the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant (CNPP) is shown to contradict significantly the experimental facts available from the accident. The period of reactor runaway in the accident is shown to be unexplainable in the framework of the existing physical models of nuclear fission reactor. A hypothesis is suggested for a possible magnetic mechanism which may be responsible for the rise-up of the reactor reactivity coefficient at the fourth power generating unit of CNPP in the course of testing the turbine generator via running it under its own momentum. How rude! These guys are scientists who have been good enough to translate or have translated from Russian, which I do not know how to read much less speak, to English an abstract that otherwise would not have seen the light of day outside of Cyrillic reading countries. Russian grammar is different than ours in many ways, including the omission of common nonsense words that we call 'articles' like 'the' in many cases...or its 'inappropriate' use in other cases. I had a German friend who used to live in Vladivostok for a while back in the 'Soviet time'. Then the Russians did not translate their journals. Much was in them that would have been valuable to us. I wonder just how many times we had to 're-invent the wheel' because we did not have access at that time to English translations. I wonder how we would sound in Russian? Standing Bear We are not so good at spelling ourselvese.g. monopoles!
Re: [OT] Heavy Metal Recall
On Tuesday 03 May 2005 10:54, Terry Blanton wrote: http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/story.jsp?story=634679 A newly discovered fragment of the oldest surviving copy of the New Testament indicates that, as far as the Antichrist goes, theologians, scholars, heavy metal groups, and television evangelists have got the wrong number. Instead of 666, it's actually the far less ominous 616. Hmmm, I wonder if they will change the ProctorGamble logo? :-) Guess they better stay out of Kalamazoo or not go to Battle Creek in Michigan where the area code is 616!grin Standing Bear
RE: ICCF-11 papers have arrived
Hey Jed, This kind of thing bothered me before the internet, but now it reads quite acceptably to me. I've come to appreciate russenglish for the novel sentence structuring and simplicity of style. That said, your insertion of the proper unit of current is a critical edit; those kinds of errors cause all sorts of problems down the road unless corrected. The kcal/kCal confusion we all had a few months ago is a perfect example of where good editorship in some old papers was lacking. What is your relation to the ICCF? Are you the official repository of papers, or are you providing the service as a favor to the organization? If the former, then you may be obligated to publish the whole of the proceedings, even papers which I agree should probably not be lumped in to CF. If the later, then it is your right to do as you may. BTW, if we agree CF is a real phenomena, then one is forced to review old alchemy reports for possible real effects. Most alchemy is bunk; but a few reports are very intriguing. Here's one thing that struck me from reading those sorts of papers. It was reported in one alchemical text that the water used in the experiment needed to be from the bottom of a deep, long standing well. We now know that that D2O will be found in higher concentrations in such water. Curious... K. -Original Message- From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 10:48 AM To: vortex-L@eskimo.com Subject: Re: ICCF-11 papers have arrived Robin van Spaandonk wrote: In what sense do [the papers] need to be edited? In papers written by non-native speakers, the English needs work. There is a broad range of problems. Papers by German authors may need a few minor adjustments of the definite and indefinite articles (the and a). Papers written by Japanese authors have many mistakes but I know how to fix them. Papers written by Russians tend to be the most difficult for me. Here is an example. Before editing: ANNOTATION The study of structure of elemental and isotopic composition of Ti cathode before and after an irradiation by ions glow discharge in plasma with an excess heat effect was fulfilled. The exposure was carried out by deuterium ions with a voltage of the discharge less than 1000 volt, with current of 10-20 . After corrections and consulting with the author: ABSTRACT In this study we report on the surface structure, distribution and isotopic composition of elements found on Ti cathodes before and after glow discharge in plasma, during which excess heat was produced. Irradiation was carried out with deuterium ions with a discharge voltage below 1000 volts, with a current of 10 to 20 mA. the LENR-CANR collection, because people come to the site to learn about cold fusion, not these other subjects. There may well be a link between CF transmutation and traditional alchemy. There may be, but for that matter there is probably a link between CF and special relativity (mass-energy equivalence), yet I do not have papers about relativity at LENR-CANR.org. In the broadest sense CF is probably related to many different fields. If you want to read about these other fields you go to textbooks or web sites about them. If a paper about traditional alchemy included a section with specific suggestions showing how it might be linked to CF, I would include it, even if I thought the link was bogus. A paper showing a relationship between relativity and CF would also be acceptable. I will grant the restriction is somewhat arbitrary, but if we have no restrictions we will end up with a huge pile of unrelated material, which will make it difficult for people to find what they are looking for. Furthermore, as I said, people who want to learn about alchemy on the Internet can do that very easily thanks to Google. We do not need to supply the links anymore. People make their own links. - Jed
616
Terry, Instead of 666, it's actually the far less ominous 616... This isn't exactly 'news,' but maybe it is a slow day in the UK. If you have a copy of the New American Standard version of the NT, open it to Rev. 13:18 - the footnote says thatone ancient manuscriptdoes in fact give the number as 616. Most everything Biblical turns out to be fraught with contradiction on closer inspection - no? Dan Brown sure foundhis lucrative "loophole"... FWIW. Did a little search in my collection of "special" numbers, and 616 does turn up fairly often in magic squares, such as 4 x 4 = 16 squares with Magic Sum = (154 x 4) = 616. The most "magical"of all such squares may be a 13x13 square seen here http://www.worldofnumbers.com/yearmmii.htm which has four internal 4x4 squares with 616 lines, and 13 has long been associated with bad luck. It's not hard to understand why 616 was not favored by numerologists, givena choice with 666in the ancient writings, but mathematically, neither seem particularly remarkable: one is a product of small primes [616 = 2·2·2·7·11] and the other is a triangular number [666 = 1+2+3+...+36]. I mentioned once before that the triple W's of the World-Wide Web, with W representing the sixth Hebrew letter, are totaled in this fashion, theygive 666, and we all know how evil the free exchange of ideas can seem to certain bigots - they are the often ones who cherish arcane BS like 666 anyway. And, hey...what's the deal with carbon... with its 6 protons, 6 neutrons, and 6 electrons - isn't it pretty bestial ? All proving the point that almost anything arguably prophetic, no matter how ridiculous,can be proven true in retrospect. Jones
Re: BLP implementation path
Standing Bear wrote: Conversely, the British once fully funded studies on a battleship made of ice, purely to mollify a fearful public during the depths of World War II. I believe that was an aircraft carrier made of ice mixed with sawdust and or ground-up newspaper. It was to be deployed in the far north Atlantic to cover the air gap where German U-boats could operate without being intercepted by long-range British aircraft. It would not be a highly mobile aircraft carrier in the usual sense, but rather a large man-made island that could be towed to any location and anchored. The craft would have had internal freezers to replenish the ice as it melted. Ice mixed with sawdust is incredibly tough material. It could easily withstand a German torpedo strike. It was actually a sensible proposal, but it was no longer needed after the US began launching small jeep aircraft carriers made from converted freighters that carried a couple dozen aircraft. (The British called them Woolworth carriers.) The proposal was not put forth to mollify the public. It was top secret. It was pursued because it appealed to Winston Churchill. - Jed
Pykrete was RE: BLP implementation path
Google Pykrete and you'll find a wealth of information about this odd bit of history. http://www.cabinetmagazine.org/issues/7/floatingisland.php K. -Original Message- From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 11:52 AM To: vortex-L@eskimo.com Subject: Re: BLP implementation path Standing Bear wrote: Conversely, the British once fully funded studies on a battleship made of ice, purely to mollify a fearful public during the depths of World War II. I believe that was an aircraft carrier made of ice mixed with sawdust and or ground-up newspaper. It was to be deployed in the far north Atlantic to cover the air gap where German U-boats could operate without being intercepted by long-range British aircraft. It would not be a highly mobile aircraft carrier in the usual sense, but rather a large man-made island that could be towed to any location and anchored. The craft would have had internal freezers to replenish the ice as it melted. Ice mixed with sawdust is incredibly tough material. It could easily withstand a German torpedo strike. It was actually a sensible proposal, but it was no longer needed after the US began launching small jeep aircraft carriers made from converted freighters that carried a couple dozen aircraft. (The British called them Woolworth carriers.) The proposal was not put forth to mollify the public. It was top secret. It was pursued because it appealed to Winston Churchill. - Jed
RE: ICCF-11 papers are depressing
Hey Fred, Can you get some of the magnets up to the curie point to demagnetize them? That would make a much better control than the ceramics. A propane torch might work on a small NdFeB, ceramics will break unless you use a furnace. K. -Original Message- From: Frederick Sparber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 9:07 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: ICCF-11 papers are depressing Michael Foster wrote: I wish everyone would give up on the electrolysis work. I think it's just an interesting dead end. No way to scale it up commercially. Agreed. Too much energy invested into getting the effect. A bit soon to say anything for certain, but the 10 stacked (tissue paper spacer) Neodymium super magnets (10 mm OD x 5 mm ID)in 100 grams of distilled H2O (about ~ 10^19 deuterons/gram H2O) in well-insulated cups are showing a few degree C temperature rise over a 48 hour soak. At 1.0 milliwatts it should take 116 hours (4.8 days) to get 1.0 deg C temperature rise. A similar well-insulated cup with a ceramic magnet stack is showing lessor or null results. I've got about $10.00 US and plenty of free time invested in this thing so far. But, since the Neodymium super magnets are only good up to 8o deg C if it pans out I have an eye on using it for nuke waste remediation. Maybe. Frederick
[OT] Re: 616
From: Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] This isn't exactly 'news,' but maybe it is a slow day in the UK. Well, the actual news item was the use of multi-spectral imaging to read previously illegible papyri: http://www.sciscoop.com/story/2005/4/24/224546/127 snip interesting stuff All proving the point that almost anything arguably prophetic, no matter how ridiculous, can be proven true in retrospect. I *did* find it interesting that the bad guy (according to Hebrew Gematria) went from Nero to Caligulia.
English articles are not nonsense
Standing Bear wrote: Russian grammar is different than ours in many ways, including the omission of common nonsense words that we call 'articles' like 'the' in many cases... Actually, English articles have a specific meaning: they indicate whether you are talking about one specific instance or general instances. It is a common misconception that English articles, number, and French word gender are nonsense or dispensable. They have no meaning, but they provide essential cross checking to reduce errors in communication. They function somewhat like parity bits. Take two French words which sound similar but are of different genders. The use of le or la earlier in the sentence acts as a clue or heads-up for the listener. If he has trouble hearing the sentence because he is in a noisy environment, he backtracks, replays the sentence in his mind, and checks whether there was a le or la. You can always have a language without articles, number or gender. We get along fine without gender in English. Japanese has none of these things, yet Japanese people communicate perfectly. But of course they have other techniques to reinforce meaning, cross-check and reduce ambiguity. Incidentally, yesterday someone mentioned the distinction between green and blue. The most common Japanese color word, ao, is both blue and green. So when you are driving with a Japanese person and he tells you the traffic light has turned blue, he means green. When Americans first learned Japanese, I expect some of them wondered whether Japanese people are colorblind. Not at all. They have dozens of other words for colors which describe fine gradations between various shades of blue and green. The most common pair after ao are: sora-iro and midori which mean sky-color (blue) and leaf-color (green). - Jed
Re: [OT] 616
From: Terry Blanton I *did* find it interesting that the bad guy (according to Hebrew Gematria) went from Nero to Caligulia. Yes. But that is most of the problem with 616 being the substitue for 666, or so it would seem. Nero makes more sense, historically. Caligula reigned only 3 years and never really had a chance to persecute Christians as there were none ! at least not in Rome and going by that name yet - and he probably never would have even heard of the few dozen or hundred in Turkey (Asia minor) - while Nero was notorious for same, but that was probably exaggerated, as the timing was not right for him either. Mostly both of them killed everyone they didn't like, no matter why. Gaius Caligula died in the year 41, at an early age, and though all agree that he possessed excess decadence, madness, cruelty, extravagance and megalomania beyond reason - the timing is not good for him to be the subject of this warning. BTW here are some tidbits from the web- Caligula was prematurely bald and so sensitive about his lack of hair that it was a **capital crime** for anyone to look down from a high place as he passed by. Sometimes he ordered those with a fine head of hair to be shaved. Several became appetizers for lions, who probably didn't care for the long hair either. From the Emperor Augustus he inherited the family affliction for epilepsy and madness. He was caught in bed with his sister Drusilla at an early age. His famous father Germanicus, his mother Agrippina and all his brothers were either killed or starved to death by the Emperor Tiberius, who Caligula eventually helped to kill and take over rule. Nero was Caligula's nephew andwas also a chip off the old murderous block - and by then there were enough Christians around for him to indulge in offing his share, but probaly far less than the later Emperors.
Re: English articles are not nonsense
an english teacher is teaching his class about positive and negative words. In english, as you know, a double negative is a positive, whereas in some languages, such as russian, a double negative is simply more negative. however, there is no known language where a double positive can be a negative. from the back of the room, comes wafting up a pair of words from the class clown. yeah right. On 5/3/05, Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Standing Bear wrote: Russian grammar is different than ours in many ways, including the omission of common nonsense words that we call 'articles' like 'the' in many cases... Actually, English articles have a specific meaning: they indicate whether you are talking about one specific instance or general instances. It is a common misconception that English articles, number, and French word gender are nonsense or dispensable. They have no meaning, but they provide essential cross checking to reduce errors in communication. They function somewhat like parity bits. Take two French words which sound similar but are of different genders. The use of le or la earlier in the sentence acts as a clue or heads-up for the listener. If he has trouble hearing the sentence because he is in a noisy environment, he backtracks, replays the sentence in his mind, and checks whether there was a le or la. You can always have a language without articles, number or gender. We get along fine without gender in English. Japanese has none of these things, yet Japanese people communicate perfectly. But of course they have other techniques to reinforce meaning, cross-check and reduce ambiguity. Incidentally, yesterday someone mentioned the distinction between green and blue. The most common Japanese color word, ao, is both blue and green. So when you are driving with a Japanese person and he tells you the traffic light has turned blue, he means green. When Americans first learned Japanese, I expect some of them wondered whether Japanese people are colorblind. Not at all. They have dozens of other words for colors which describe fine gradations between various shades of blue and green. The most common pair after ao are: sora-iro and midori which mean sky-color (blue) and leaf-color (green). - Jed -- Monsieur l'abbé, I detest what you write, but I would give my life to make it possible for you to continue to write Voltaire
Re: [OT] Re: 616
well, its the letter vav, which looks like an upside down stunted l. its both a letter and a number, and reading it, it said it looked like that on the forehead. not that that was what it actually was. you could make a lot of symbols out of three L shapes, especially in a nice spiral pattern. im looking for the picture, but there was a shot of a bush rally, some parents had painted a big blue w on thier kids forehead. On 5/3/05, Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] This isn't exactly 'news,' but maybe it is a slow day in the UK. Well, the actual news item was the use of multi-spectral imaging to read previously illegible papyri: http://www.sciscoop.com/story/2005/4/24/224546/127 snip interesting stuff All proving the point that almost anything arguably prophetic, no matter how ridiculous, can be proven true in retrospect. I *did* find it interesting that the bad guy (according to Hebrew Gematria) went from Nero to Caligulia. -- Monsieur l'abbé, I detest what you write, but I would give my life to make it possible for you to continue to write Voltaire
Re : Magnetically Aligned CF Reactions, in H2O, Was RE: ICCF-11 papers....
Hi Keith, Boiling hot water should do it, but I'm not going to try it until I get some more precise measurements with some digital thermometers due in today or tomorrow. BTW, the Neodymium magnets are Nickel-Plated which makes for thinking of it as a Condensed Plasma Interface with magnetic alignment of the protons/deuterons in the H2O-HDO-D2O, possibly as well as the stable Nickel 61 isotope. It would take over 200 Atmospheres of Metal-D2 gas pressure to come close to it. I think the gas discharge-metal surface research is knocking at this door, as is/was CF Cell Electrolysis D2 loading of Pd. Frederick [Original Message] From: Keith Nagel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Vortex vortex-l@eskimo.com Date: 5/3/05 11:08:07 AM Subject: RE: ICCF-11 papers are depressing Hey Fred, Can you get some of the magnets up to the curie point to demagnetize them? That would make a much better control than the ceramics. A propane torch might work on a small NdFeB, ceramics will break unless you use a furnace. K. -Original Message- From: Frederick Sparber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 9:07 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: ICCF-11 papers are depressing Michael Foster wrote: I wish everyone would give up on the electrolysis work. I think it's just an interesting dead end. No way to scale it up commercially. Agreed. Too much energy invested into getting the effect. A bit soon to say anything for certain, but the 10 stacked (tissue paper spacer) Neodymium super magnets (10 mm OD x 5 mm ID)in 100 grams of distilled H2O (about ~ 10^19 deuterons/gram H2O) in well-insulated cups are showing a few degree C temperature rise over a 48 hour soak. At 1.0 milliwatts it should take 116 hours (4.8 days) to get 1.0 deg C temperature rise. A similar well-insulated cup with a ceramic magnet stack is showing lessor or null results. I've got about $10.00 US and plenty of free time invested in this thing so far. But, since the Neodymium super magnets are only good up to 8o deg C if it pans out I have an eye on using it for nuke waste remediation. Maybe. Frederick
RE: Re : Magnetically Aligned CF Reactions, in H2O, Was RE: ICCF-11 papers....
Hi Fred, Boiling water won't quite cut it; 300C needed. You might try the oven in a pinch, it might just do it. This is a neat experiment for a variety of reasons, what are you using for calorimeters? A related thought: A while back I had it in my head that the surface morphology could be modified by plating on a PM, I was disappointed to find that Ni plating on a charged magnet seemed to have no noticable effect. Isn't that surprising? K. -Original Message- From: Frederick Sparber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 11:59 AM To: vortex-l Subject: Re : Magnetically Aligned CF Reactions, in H2O, Was RE: ICCF-11 papers Hi Keith, Boiling hot water should do it, but I'm not going to try it until I get some more precise measurements with some digital thermometers due in today or tomorrow. BTW, the Neodymium magnets are Nickel-Plated which makes for thinking of it as a Condensed Plasma Interface with magnetic alignment of the protons/deuterons in the H2O-HDO-D2O, possibly as well as the stable Nickel 61 isotope. It would take over 200 Atmospheres of Metal-D2 gas pressure to come close to it. I think the gas discharge-metal surface research is knocking at this door, as is/was CF Cell Electrolysis D2 loading of Pd. Frederick [Original Message] From: Keith Nagel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Vortex vortex-l@eskimo.com Date: 5/3/05 11:08:07 AM Subject: RE: ICCF-11 papers are depressing Hey Fred, Can you get some of the magnets up to the curie point to demagnetize them? That would make a much better control than the ceramics. A propane torch might work on a small NdFeB, ceramics will break unless you use a furnace. K. -Original Message- From: Frederick Sparber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 9:07 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: ICCF-11 papers are depressing Michael Foster wrote: I wish everyone would give up on the electrolysis work. I think it's just an interesting dead end. No way to scale it up commercially. Agreed. Too much energy invested into getting the effect. A bit soon to say anything for certain, but the 10 stacked (tissue paper spacer) Neodymium super magnets (10 mm OD x 5 mm ID)in 100 grams of distilled H2O (about ~ 10^19 deuterons/gram H2O) in well-insulated cups are showing a few degree C temperature rise over a 48 hour soak. At 1.0 milliwatts it should take 116 hours (4.8 days) to get 1.0 deg C temperature rise. A similar well-insulated cup with a ceramic magnet stack is showing lessor or null results. I've got about $10.00 US and plenty of free time invested in this thing so far. But, since the Neodymium super magnets are only good up to 8o deg C if it pans out I have an eye on using it for nuke waste remediation. Maybe. Frederick
RE: Report from Max Planck work
Hey RC, You may have to repost; I'm getting a 403 forbidden error on the link, even the root domain rejects requests. Can you cut and paste the story? K. -Original Message- From: RC Macaulay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 1:05 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Report from Max Planck work Work continues http://www.sciscoop.com/story/2005/4/29/7401/23280 Richard
Re: English articles are not nonsense
Jed, So much language is lost in translation yet the English language has become the language of the world of business, air travel and encroaching into science as a universal medium for the exchange of ideas via the internet. Picking up on your color comment, in Rev.21:19 , the writer observed the foundation of the walls were made of 12 different colors of stones ( jewels). Half of these colors have never been identified. Hmmm. If there are 3 primary colors why mention four times that ? Richard - Original Message - From: Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-L@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 11:28 AM Subject: English articles are not nonsense Standing Bear wrote: Russian grammar is different than ours in many ways, including the omission of common nonsense words that we call 'articles' like 'the' in many cases... Actually, English articles have a specific meaning: they indicate whether you are talking about one specific instance or general instances. It is a common misconception that English articles, number, and French word gender are nonsense or dispensable. They have no meaning, but they provide essential cross checking to reduce errors in communication. They function somewhat like parity bits. Take two French words which sound similar but are of different genders. The use of le or la earlier in the sentence acts as a clue or heads-up for the listener. If he has trouble hearing the sentence because he is in a noisy environment, he backtracks, replays the sentence in his mind, and checks whether there was a le or la. You can always have a language without articles, number or gender. We get along fine without gender in English. Japanese has none of these things, yet Japanese people communicate perfectly. But of course they have other techniques to reinforce meaning, cross-check and reduce ambiguity. Incidentally, yesterday someone mentioned the distinction between green and blue. The most common Japanese color word, ao, is both blue and green. So when you are driving with a Japanese person and he tells you the traffic light has turned blue, he means green. When Americans first learned Japanese, I expect some of them wondered whether Japanese people are colorblind. Not at all. They have dozens of other words for colors which describe fine gradations between various shades of blue and green. The most common pair after ao are: sora-iro and midori which mean sky-color (blue) and leaf-color (green). - Jed
Re: Re : Magnetically Aligned CF Reactions, in H2O, Was RE: ICCF-11 papers....
If this warming is the result of some sort of fusion, you should place the cup in a shield to protect against possible neutron emissions. Harry Frederick Sparber at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Keith, Boiling hot water should do it, but I'm not going to try it until I get some more precise measurements with some digital thermometers due in today or tomorrow. BTW, the Neodymium magnets are Nickel-Plated which makes for thinking of it as a Condensed Plasma Interface with magnetic alignment of the protons/deuterons in the H2O-HDO-D2O, possibly as well as the stable Nickel 61 isotope. It would take over 200 Atmospheres of Metal-D2 gas pressure to come close to it. I think the gas discharge-metal surface research is knocking at this door, as is/was CF Cell Electrolysis D2 loading of Pd. Frederick
Re : Magnetically Aligned CF Reactions, in H2O, Was RE: ICCF-11 papers....
Keith wrote: A related thought: A while back I had it in my head that the surface morphology could be modified by plating on a PM, I was disappointed to find that Ni plating on a charged magnet seemed to have no noticeable effect. Isn't that surprising? Yes. :-) I thought Indigo was using electroless Ni, or were they Ni plating before magnetizing? Frederick [Original Message] From: Keith Nagel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Vortex vortex-l@eskimo.com Date: 5/3/05 12:23:59 PM Subject: RE: Re : Magnetically Aligned CF Reactions, in H2O, Was RE: ICCF-11 papers Hi Fred, Boiling water won't quite cut it; 300C needed. You might try the oven in a pinch, it might just do it. This is a neat experiment for a variety of reasons, what are you using for calorimeters? A related thought: A while back I had it in my head that the surface morphology could be modified by plating on a PM, I was disappointed to find that Ni plating on a charged magnet seemed to have no noticable effect. Isn't that surprising? K. -Original Message- From: Frederick Sparber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 11:59 AM To: vortex-l Subject: Re : Magnetically Aligned CF Reactions, in H2O, Was RE: ICCF-11 papers Hi Keith, Boiling hot water should do it, but I'm not going to try it until I get some more precise measurements with some digital thermometers due in today or tomorrow. BTW, the Neodymium magnets are Nickel-Plated which makes for thinking of it as a Condensed Plasma Interface with magnetic alignment of the protons/deuterons in the H2O-HDO-D2O, possibly as well as the stable Nickel 61 isotope. It would take over 200 Atmospheres of Metal-D2 gas pressure to come close to it. I think the gas discharge-metal surface research is knocking at this door, as is/was CF Cell Electrolysis D2 loading of Pd. Frederick [Original Message] From: Keith Nagel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Vortex vortex-l@eskimo.com Date: 5/3/05 11:08:07 AM Subject: RE: ICCF-11 papers are depressing Hey Fred, Can you get some of the magnets up to the curie point to demagnetize them? That would make a much better control than the ceramics. A propane torch might work on a small NdFeB, ceramics will break unless you use a furnace. K. -Original Message- From: Frederick Sparber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 9:07 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: ICCF-11 papers are depressing Michael Foster wrote: I wish everyone would give up on the electrolysis work. I think it's just an interesting dead end. No way to scale it up commercially. Agreed. Too much energy invested into getting the effect. A bit soon to say anything for certain, but the 10 stacked (tissue paper spacer) Neodymium super magnets (10 mm OD x 5 mm ID)in 100 grams of distilled H2O (about ~ 10^19 deuterons/gram H2O) in well-insulated cups are showing a few degree C temperature rise over a 48 hour soak. At 1.0 milliwatts it should take 116 hours (4.8 days) to get 1.0 deg C temperature rise. A similar well-insulated cup with a ceramic magnet stack is showing lessor or null results. I've got about $10.00 US and plenty of free time invested in this thing so far. But, since the Neodymium super magnets are only good up to 8o deg C if it pans out I have an eye on using it for nuke waste remediation. Maybe. Frederick
Re : Magnetically Aligned CF Reactions, in H2O,Was RE: ICCF-11 papers....
[Original Message] From: Harry Veeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Date: 5/3/05 12:41:56 PM Subject: Re: Re : Magnetically Aligned CF Reactions, in H2O,Was RE: ICCF-11 papers If this warming is the result of some sort of fusion, you should place the cup in a shield to protect against possible neutron emissions. Harry Good idea, Harry. I'll use some distance as a shield. Frederick Frederick Sparber at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Keith, Boiling hot water should do it, but I'm not going to try it until I get some more precise measurements with some digital thermometers due in today or tomorrow. BTW, the Neodymium magnets are Nickel-Plated which makes for thinking of it as a Condensed Plasma Interface with magnetic alignment of the protons/deuterons in the H2O-HDO-D2O, possibly as well as the stable Nickel 61 isotope. It would take over 200 Atmospheres of Metal-D2 gas pressure to come close to it. I think the gas discharge-metal surface research is knocking at this door, as is/was CF Cell Electrolysis D2 loading of Pd. Frederick
Re: Spiral helixes
--- Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Harvey, Heres how that paradox works... [snip] This is very interesting and, over the years, you have said similar things in prior posts that lead one to believe that in 3-phase - symmetry in preserved - at least there is that tendency (which can somehow get back to ZPE). Furthermore, it seems that you have been trying to exploit this natural tendency in your experiments by presenting an interaction situation where one leg of 3-phase is energy deficient. Is that a fair appraisal? Yes, in certain respects... I didnt realize some aspects without later looking at the total picture. A good example is when I first started working with what I called the maximum energy transfer resonances. If we take just one phase of three from the alternator and apply the situation, we find that it does defy the way the laws are written. But here we are only working with a single phase and treating it by making obervations on that phase. Since we arent doing anything with the other phases, they are open circuit, at first we think that it should be irrevalent as to what occurs on those open circuits. Later on I found that the reason I was getting results that defy the maximum energy transfer laws, was that the phase in use was actually borrowing voltage from the adjacent phases, and a voltage monitoring of those empty phases shows that fact. Once we do the same thing for all three phases, the laws begin to comply, but still not completely. We cannot simply take one phase out of three and look what happens on that phase, without also analysing the total actions of the three phase WYE internally connected generator. In the large coil groupings that show an excess of phase angle freedom, the phase that isnt magnetically connected or coupled to the same degree as the other phases, also shows a great degree of inbalance, less current goes through that phase even though all three loads are ~ equal. Thus in a sense it is like you propose, it is energy deficient. In fact it is very common for one phase to have less voltage then another phase. I will have to stop speculating and just arrange all three coil goroups identically in mutual induction, and then see what happens. I began tearing evrything apart to accomplish this, but other work came up... Speaking of work, I have to go there before I am late just wanted to make a quick reply here. After the reconstruction is made, more authouritative comments on theis of what if scenario can be made. Sincerely HDN Tesla Research Group; Pioneering the Applications of Interphasal Resonances http://groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/
ICCF-11 titles
Here are all of the ICCF-11 titles that I am aware of, from my EndNote database. 1. Abyaneh, M., et al. Concerning the Modeling of Systems in Terms of Quantum Electrodynamics (QED): The Special Case of Cold Fusion. in Eleventh International Conference on Condensed Matter Nuclear Science. 2004. Marseille, France. 2. Adamenko, S. and V. Vysotskii. The Conditions And Realization Of Self-Similar Coulomb Collapse Of Condensed Target And Low-Energy Laboratory Nucleosynthesis. in Eleventh International Conference on Condensed Matter Nuclear Science. 2004. Marseille, France. 3. Bazhutov, Y. and E. Pletnikov. Search For Erzion Nuclear Catalysis Chains From Cosmic Ray Erzions Stopping In Organic Scintillator. in Eleventh International Conference on Condensed Matter Nuclear Science. 2004. Marseille, France. 4. Bazhutov, Y., et al. Calorimetric And Neutron Diagnostics Of Liquids During Laser Irradiation. in Eleventh International Conference on Condensed Matter Nuclear Science. 2004. Marseille, France. 5. Benson, T. and T.O. Passell. Calorimetry of Energy-Efficient Glow Discharge - Apparatus Design and Calibration. in Eleventh International Conference on Condensed Matter Nuclear Science. 2004. Marseille, France. 6. Brown, J. Towards a robust theory of nuclear interactions in deuteron bands. in Eleventh International Conference on Condensed Matter Nuclear Science. 2004. Marseille, France. 7. Campari, E.G., et al. Photon and particle emission, heat production and surface transformation in Ni-H system. in Eleventh International Conference on Condensed Matter Nuclear Science. 2004. Marseille, France. 8. Campari, E.G., et al. Surface Analysis of hydrogen loaded nickel alloys. in Eleventh International Conference on Condensed Matter Nuclear Science. 2004. Marseille, France. 9. Chubb, T. I. Bloch Ions. in Eleventh International Conference on Condensed Matter Nuclear Science. 2004. Marseille, France. 10. Chubb, T. II. Inhibited Diffusion Driven Surface Transmutations. in Eleventh International Conference on Condensed Matter Nuclear Science. 2004. Marseille, France. 11. Chubb, T. III. Bloch Nuclides, Iwamura Transmutations, and Oriani Showers. in Eleventh International Conference on Condensed Matter Nuclear Science. 2004. Marseille, France. 12. Chubb, S.R. Framework for Understanding LENR Processes, Using Conventional Condensed Matter Physics. in Eleventh International Conference on Condensed Matter Nuclear Science. 2004. Marseille, France. 13. Cirillo, D. and V. Iorio. Transmutation of metal at low energy in a confined plasma in water. in Eleventh International Conference on Condensed Matter Nuclear Science. 2004. Marseille, France. 14. Czerski, K., P. Heide, and A. Huke. Electron Screening Constraints for Cold Fusion. in Eleventh International Conference on Condensed Matter Nuclear Science. 2004. Marseille, France. 15. Dash, J. and A. Ambadkar. Co-Deposition Of Palladium With Hydrogen Isotopes. in Eleventh International Conference on Condensed Matter Nuclear Science. 2004. Marseille, France. 16. Filimonov, V.A. Neutrino-Driven Nuclear Reactions Of Cold Fusion And Transmutation. in Eleventh International Conference on Condensed Matter Nuclear Science. 2004. Marseille, France. 17. Filippov, D., A. Rukhadze, and L.I. Urutshoev. Effects of atomic electrons on nuclear stability and radioactive decay. in Eleventh International Conference on Condensed Matter Nuclear Science. 2004. Marseille, France. 18. Filippov, D., et al. On the possible magnetic mechanism of shortening the runaway of RBMK-1000 reactor at Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant. in Eleventh International Conference on Condensed Matter Nuclear Science. 2004. Marseille, France. 19. Frisone, F. Theoretical Model Of The Probability Of Fusion Between Deuterons Within Deformed Lattices With Micro-Cracks At Room Temperature. in Eleventh International Conference on Condensed Matter Nuclear Science. 2004. Marseille, France. 20. Fukuhara, M. Possible Nuclear Transmutation Of Nitrogen In The Earth's Atmosphere. in Eleventh International Conference on Condensed Matter Nuclear Science. 2004. Marseille, France. 21. Gareev, F., I. Zhidkova, and Y. Ratis. Enhancement Mechanisms of Low Energy Nuclear Reactions. in Eleventh International Conference on Condensed Matter Nuclear Science. 2004. Marseille, France. 22. Hora, H., et al. Low Energy Nuclear Reactions resulting as picometer interactions with similarity to K-shell electron capture. in Eleventh International Conference on Condensed Matter Nuclear Science. 2004. Marseille, France. 23. Huke, A., et al. Evidence for a Target-Material Dependence of the Neutron-Proton Branching Ratio in d+d Reactions for Deuteron Energies below 20 keV. in Eleventh International Conference on Condensed Matter Nuclear Science. 2004. Marseille, France. 24. Huke, A., K. Czerski, and P. Heide. Accelerator Experiments and Theoretical Models for the Electron Screening Effect in Metallic Environments. in Eleventh International Conference on Condensed Matter
RE: Report from Max Planck work
Fusion Fuss will Harness Energy of the Sun By sciencebase, Section News Posted on Sat Apr 30th, 2005 at 12:35:19 PM PST After years of calculation, preparation and component production the Wendelstein 7-X project has now entered a new phase: Assembly of the fusion device at Greifswald Branch Institute of the Max-Planck-Institut für Plasmaphysik (IPP). With industrial production still in progress, assembly of the large-scale experiment was initiated by stringing the first magnet coil on to the plasma vessel. Completion of the complex device will take about six years. The objective of fusion research is to gain energy from fusion of atomic nuclei, as happens in the sun. In order to ignite the fusion fire, the hydrogen plasma fuel in a future power plant has to be confined in magnetic fields and heated to temperatures of over 100 million degrees. The purpose of Wendelstein 7-X, which will be the world's largest fusion device of the stellarator type, is to investigate the suitability of this concept for application in a power plant. With discharges lasting up to 30 minutes it is intended to demonstrate the essential property of the stellarator concept, the capability of continuous operation. Components A ring of 50 superconducting magnet coils about 3.5 metres high forms the core of the device. Cooled with liquid helium to superconduction temperature close to absolute zero, they need hardly any energy after being switched on. Their bizarre shapes are the result of sophisticated optimisation calculations: They are designed to produce a particularly stable and thermally insulating magnetic cage to confine the plasma. In order to vary the magnetic field, a second set of 20 flat, likewise superconducting coils is superposed on the stellarator coils. Despite the high magnetic forces exerted, the coils are kept exactly in position by a massive ring-shaped support structure. The entire coil ring is enclosed by a thermally insulating outer casing 16 metres in diameter, the cryostat. A cryogenic facility will provide 5000 watts of helium refrigeration to cool the magnets and support structure, i.e a total of 1425 tons of material, to superconduction temperature. Located inside the coil ring is the plasma vessel, comprising 20 segments, which is specially shaped to match the twisted plasma ring. The plasma will be observed and heated through a total of 299 apertures. These are connected with the outer wall of the cryostat by an equal number of ports passing between the coils with good thermal insulation. The entire device comprises five almost identical modules that are each pre-assembled and then subsequently joined into a ring in the experimentation hall. Assembly At the beginning of April assembly started with installation of the first half-module: For this purpose, the first segment of the plasma vessel was hoisted into pre-assembly rig lb and the first magnet coil, weighing six tons, was carefully strung onto the vessel segment with a special rotatable grab through the just millimetre wide gaps. Only then can the second segment of the plasma vessel be brazed on and thermal insulation at the brazing seam be completed. This superinsulation separates the low-temperature magnet coils from their warm surroundings: It consists of exactly fitting fibreglass-reinforced synthetic panels in which copper mesh for better thermal conduction is embedded. Integrated in the panels are several layers of wrinkled synthetic foil coated with aluminium and containing intermediate layers of glass silk. On completion of the insulation four more stellarator coils and two of the auxiliary coils will be strung onto the vessel segment from the front and back and geometrically exactly aligned on assembly supports of their own. A segment of the support ring will then be pushed against the coils and bolted. After much other additional work and numerous control measurements the first half-module will then be ready. This structure, weighing 50 tons, will now be hoisted into the second assembly rig in a special harness. The second - mirror symmetrically constructed - half-module, meanwhile assembled on pre-assembly rig la, is placed opposite and the two are hydraulically joined. The two segments of the support ring are aligned to one another and bolted, and the segments of the plasma vessel are brazed. At the same time the thermal insulation of the brazed seam is closed: The first of five modules, weighing 100 tons, will then be ready in shell form. The conductors for electrical connection of the coils are now attached - a very tricky job. The rigid, up to 14-metre-long superconductors, produced by Jülich Research Centre, are already bent to the right shape. Twenty-four lengths of the unwieldy, but sensitive conductor are needed per module. After electrical connection and brazing of the superconductors the connections are insulated against high voltage and their helium proofing checked. Next comes the piping for the helium
Re: ICCF-11 titles
See note in private e-mail. Try: SpalloneAanoverview.doc It is in pretty good shape, and you will love the colors in Table 1. Very Italian! We need to preserve that for posterity. I did a test conversion into Acrobat. It comes out just fine. Also, table 1 fits on one page, even though it does not fit in the Microsoft Word document for some reason. - Jed Hank Scudder wrote: Jed, Shall I just pick one, or do you want to assign them in a more orderly fashion? Hank
RE: ICCF-11 papers are depressing
--- On Tue 05/03, Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Foster wrote; I wouldn't be so depressed if I were you. There are plenty of us out there doing CF research with very encouraging results who are just not publishing anything until the patent situation changes. Frankly, I doubt there are any that could rival Szpak or Iwamura Don't be too sure about that. M. ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!
Re: New Energy researches at KPN Consulting
Keith , Interesting experiment with the Hg arc. (Fred isn't too happy with the results, so he probably wants to see the full 800 amps through there) Do you have a G-M or other type of radiation monitor? It would be interesting to know if there was any small amount of induced radioactivity in the Hg from the large amounts of current flowing through it, possibly due to activation one of the relatively unstable isotopes (or electronium). There should not be any change before vs. after, of course - but is there? 203 Hg is often used as a manufactured tracer, but there is a tiny amount of radioactivity in some natural ores which simply shouldn't be there, due to the short half-life. Jones
RE: Arie DeGeus
Hey Mark, you write: I am not qualified to evaluate the fractional hydrogen experiments, but he seemed to have carried those forward some distance toward practical hardware. The patent picture remains cloudy. It looks from the INPADOC legal data like he's been fighting it out with the examiners since 2002. This stuff is cited, US6024935, EP0395066, EP0461690 ( Boeing??? How 'bout that. ) BTW, WO0208787A3 sort of has heartburn written all over it. Every claim... Incidently, the late Dr. Robert Carroll, who was a consultant to our firm the last dozen years of his life, predicted the importance of fractional quantum states many years prior to Mills or DeGeus. Huh. I'll have to check him out, this is the site then? http://www.pride-net.com/physics/ K.
RE: Robert Carroll
Hi Keith, That's him alright. I believe we have a copy of his original patent application for fusion close to absolute zero. He delivered his last paper in San Francisco at a AAAS meeting, which for the first, and only, time had a Section devoted to non-relativistic physics. At the end he delightedly wrote on the blackboard what he had calculated was the maximum speed a spacecraft could attain -- 20,000,000C. The short book on the site, Arcturus by Dawn, reflects a quick synopsis of his physics. His views can change the impact of a walk under a night sky filled with stars. At least one young scientist believes he was more correct than most will allow. Mark From: Keith Nagel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: Arie DeGeus Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 21:26:43 -0400 Hey Mark, you write: I am not qualified to evaluate the fractional hydrogen experiments, but he seemed to have carried those forward some distance toward practical hardware. The patent picture remains cloudy. It looks from the INPADOC legal data like he's been fighting it out with the examiners since 2002. This stuff is cited, US6024935, EP0395066, EP0461690 ( Boeing??? How 'bout that. ) BTW, WO0208787A3 sort of has heartburn written all over it. Every claim... Incidently, the late Dr. Robert Carroll, who was a consultant to our firm the last dozen years of his life, predicted the importance of fractional quantum states many years prior to Mills or DeGeus. Huh. I'll have to check him out, this is the site then? http://www.pride-net.com/physics/ K.
How would you calculate KE
Guys, How would you calculate the final KE of a vertically falling ball assuming you know the mass of the ball, g and you could accurately measure the transit time of the last say 25mm of the vertical drop? Then, assuming you knew the total drop distance, would not a lower measured KE (than PE theory would predict) indicate the amount of effective reduction in the acceleration of gravity due to magnetic dragback? Thanks in advance, Greg Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com
Re: Long Delayed Echoes
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Tue, 3 May 2005 8:20:17 -0400: Hi, [snip] From: Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL PROTECTED] That still doesn't answer my question though. I'm sorry, the question was regarding googling echo returns from the moon? No, the question was, doesn't anyone listen at radar frequencies, without a directional antenna? Regards, Robin van Spaandonk All SPAM goes in the trash unread.
