Re: [Vo]:Apparently growing white blobs on Phoenix strut
Why, in 84 days, is a large ice deposit only in that one spot? Why is the frost not somewhat uniform? Keep in mind the photo is upside down. The ground is at the top. The pictures make a lot more sense when flipped 180 degrees. The strut in the foreground is also in the dark, yet has no sign of frost at all in either photo. There are many photos of many parts on Phoenix, but none have shown large and changing white spots. BTW, we have many types of dry icing conditions here in south central Alaska, especially when temperatures are below -30 deg. F. It is not widely known that many areas in Alaska are classified as deserts, based on annual precipitation. Best regards, Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/ On Aug 25, 2008, at 2:57 PM, leaking pen wrote: unless the differeing heat exchange of the metal causes ot to build frost from the vapor dissapearing from the ground. ive seen that effect with railings here in arizona in the dry dry winters. On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Horace Heffner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Aug 25, 2008, at 12:26 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: could that be frost? harry Could be, but it seems to me unlikely, given there is no frost on anything else. A very light morning frost does occur on the ground there at times. If anything, the "before" picture looks like the ground is lighter, so it should have the frost.
Re: [Vo]:Apparently growing white blobs on Phoenix strut
Something else that is inconsistent with condensing ice forming on the location in question is that such ice typically forms in a clearly crystalline form, a kind of hoar frost. The white stuff on the strut looks smooth and globular. It might be said that the stuff is melting, but then that is inconsistent with the fact the underlying and nearby globs have remained in place for 84 days, and also appear to have accumulated a dust covering. Best regards, Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/ On Aug 25, 2008, at 2:57 PM, leaking pen wrote: unless the differeing heat exchange of the metal causes ot to build frost from the vapor dissapearing from the ground. ive seen that effect with railings here in arizona in the dry dry winters. On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Horace Heffner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Aug 25, 2008, at 12:26 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: could that be frost? harry Could be, but it seems to me unlikely, given there is no frost on anything else. A very light morning frost does occur on the ground there at times. If anything, the "before" picture looks like the ground is lighter, so it should have the frost.
[VO]: The Quantun Nechanics of Smell
Howdy Jones, And the purpose of the research into smell was ..?? They were funded by a French perfume maker. THe NIST has released their tentative report on the collapse of building 7 World Trade Center 9-11 findings. And the purpose of their report was.. ??. They were funded 16 million by the dept of commerce. Conclusion: Something must smell very bad to spend that kinda money on perfume. http://neurophilosophy.wordpress.com/2006/12/12/the-quantum-mechanics-of-smell/ Richard
Re: [Vo]:OT: Conspiracy & preserving the Status Quo
I beg to differ. The Warren Commission Report was not credible but served a useful purpose. www.archives.gov/research/jfk/warren-commission-report/ Terry On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 11:39 PM, R C Macaulay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The NIST has prepared their report on the "collapse" of bldg 7 of the world > trade center. > > NIST was funded 16 million dollars to prepare the report for posterity. > > It is now on file. > > Will it serve a useful purpose? > > Not unless it is credible. > > Richard > > > >
Re: [Vo]:OT: Conspiracy & preserving the Status Quo
Thankfully -- A thorough point-by-point scientific response to NIST's video-game inspired "computer simulation" and fictional culprit (never before seen in a real fire) is being prepared by the group of Architects and Professional Engineers in the construction industry whose site was listed earlier -- and will appear soon. It serves little useful purpose to belabor this thread until we can have a look at their response. Hopefully, this mockery of an 'official' report will be one of the last national shames and disgraces that the Bush Administration can put us through. Jones
Re: [Vo]:Apparently growing white blobs on Phoenix strut
Whatever it is the fact that it only appears on that strut is odd. harry on 26/8/08 4:00 am, Horace Heffner at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Why, in 84 days, is a large ice deposit only in that one spot? Why is > the frost not somewhat uniform? Keep in mind the photo is upside > down. The ground is at the top. The pictures make a lot more sense > when flipped 180 degrees. The strut in the foreground is also in the > dark, yet has no sign of frost at all in either photo. There are > many photos of many parts on Phoenix, but none have shown large and > changing white spots. > > BTW, we have many types of dry icing conditions here in south central > Alaska, especially when temperatures are below -30 deg. F. It is not > widely known that many areas in Alaska are classified as deserts, > based on annual precipitation. > > Best regards, > > Horace Heffner > http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/ > > > > On Aug 25, 2008, at 2:57 PM, leaking pen wrote: > >> unless the differeing heat exchange of the metal causes ot to build >> frost from the vapor dissapearing from the ground. ive seen that >> effect with railings here in arizona in the dry dry winters. >> >> On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Horace Heffner >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> On Aug 25, 2008, at 12:26 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: >>> could that be frost? harry >>> >>> >>> Could be, but it seems to me unlikely, given there is no frost on >>> anything >>> else. A very light morning frost does occur on the ground there at >>> times. >>> If anything, the "before" picture looks like the ground is >>> lighter, so it >>> should have the frost. >>> > > > > > >
