I got a message from a friend I know really well and is the president of the
local ski club.
It stated he wanted me to join Linkendan. I hit yes yes, yes and it sent out
invites from me to everyone on my email list. Please ignore such invites. I
don't want anyone to join this.
Frank
From Jed:
That is WEIRD. What is the point of airing it? Did BLP pay for it?
I would speculate that BLP did indeed pay for the commercial. I have no
proof of that however. Who else would pay for it, and for what purpose since
it's obviously pro BLP for the existence of hydrinos. If the
I got a message from a friend I know really well and is the president of
the local ski club.
It stated he wanted me to join Linkendan. I hit yes yes, yes and it sent
out invites from me to everyone on my email list. Please ignore such
invites. I don't want anyone to join this.
You can
On 3 Jun 2011, at 13:43, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote:
From Jed:
That is WEIRD. What is the point of airing it? Did BLP pay for it?
I would speculate that BLP did indeed pay for the commercial. I have no
proof of that however. Who else would pay for it, and for what purpose
FWIW:
Italian Nuclear Physicist Fulvio Frisone on Cold Fusion
http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=128924
Rossi is briefly mentioned in a follow up forum.
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
From Karthauser
...
It's a pretty generic commercial. You could replace
the word 'hydrino' with almost anything and it would
still pretty much hang together. It also doesn't really
do much to establish blacklight has a brand, which
is the main purpose of a commercial. I suspect that
it was
Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote:
Maybe you weren't paying attention. Lomax referred to the Mckubre data in a
particular pdf on your site, and I said in that data, which is held in such
high regard, it doesn't make sense that the power drops so quickly when the
current is shut off,
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
The data clearly shows that some cells produce heat after death, and other
do not. What does not make sense here is your demand that all cells do
this.
It's not a demand. It's an identification of an inconsistency.
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote:
I wrote:
But some claims, if real, can be demonstrated in a simple and obvious way.
CF and heavier than air flight are two examples. When such demonstrations
should be possible but are absent, and there is no
From: Joshua Cude
I should add that even if some people consider the results to be
reproducible and theoretically consistent (which is certainly the case), the
absence of a simple demonstration, when one is possible, would still be
cause for skepticism.
Finally at bit of insight
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Everyone on this forum, by now, should realize that nothing short of
closing the loop will convince the majority of skeptics, and with COP in the
range of 6, any grad student could pull that off at one tenth the cost of a
Some important tidbits from the interview...
In Addition, the theoretical analysis on the process of cold fusion indicates
high values of the
probability of fusion between deuterons within a micro-crack at room
temperature and with impure
metals.
The main point of my argumentation is: since
In the comments section of the webpage,
http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-06-quantum-physics-photons-two-slit-interferometer.html
is this comment by 'hush1'...
The translation for 'Verschränkung' was erroneously translated as
'entanglement' by Erwin.
The correct translation
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote
A suspicious observer might say Rossi reduced his promised COP to 6 from 30 to
give him an excuse for requiring an input; for why he can't close the loop.
His problem isn't GETTING the COP -- it's CONTROLLING it. It
Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote:
The data clearly shows that some cells produce heat after death, and
other do not. What does not make sense here is your demand that all cells do
this.
It's not a demand. It's an identification of an inconsistency.
It is not inconsistent. You do
Alan Fletcher wrote:
A suspicious observer might say Rossi reduced his promised COP to 6 from
30 to give him an excuse for requiring an input; for why he can't close
the loop.
His problem isn't GETTING the COP -- it's CONTROLLING it. It has to be
unconditionally stable -- and the original
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
No, that is not a bit implausible. This is like saying that because a
racing car can go 150 mph on a track, Jed's 1994 Geo Metro should be able to
drive at 150 mph on Peachtree Industrial Boulevard.
No. It's like saying
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 8:43 AM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
orionwo...@charter.net wrote:
I bet Terry knows as much about the Pleiadeans as I. ;-)
Mostly harmless.
Nordics. Pure mice diet.
T
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 9:40 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
You make a valid point. Perhaps it came from a Communication Art's
student completing a final class assignment on assembling a commercial
for a prospective client. (Will look good on his/her resume.)
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
His problem isn't GETTING the COP -- it's CONTROLLING it. It has to be
unconditionally stable -- and the original eCAT wasn't doing that.
It's very easy to produce stable electricity from extremely unstable
sources. One way
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
For credibility, Rossi must CLOSE THE LOOP – anything less is a waste of
time and resources.
Only if he is trying to prove a point. I don't think he is trying to
prove a point. I think he wants to produce product.
T
Joshua, and all others who are trying to get to the bottom of this -
If there is one report that everyone interested in Rossi/E-Cat should read,
it is the 1994 final Thermacore report to DARPA. Final Report, SBIR Phase
I, Nascent Hydrogen: An Energy Source.
Unfortunately it is not on the Web
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
I myself consider this demand absurd. [self-running]
You would have to to continue believing in CF, considering in 22 years no
one has been able to do it.
The experts' outrage vanished that evening when Orville
Jones Beene wrote:If there is one report that everyone interested in
Rossi/E-Cat should read,
it is the 1994 final Thermacore report to DARPA. Final Report, SBIR Phase
I, Nascent Hydrogen: An Energy Source.
Unfortunately it is not on the Web anymore, nor even on LENR/CANR, it seems
- although
The following was said:
From Rothwell:
I myself consider this demand absurd. [self-running]
Joshua responded with:
You would have to to continue believing in CF, considering
in 22 years no one has been able to do it.
Joshua,
Setting the self-running debate and is it really Memorex aside
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 2:30 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
As a matter of principal, hiding behind a pseudo name is not regarded in
high esteem
within this group list, particularly when the poster posts copious
quantities of lengthy exposes that show a highly
This style of quotation is nonstandard and difficult to follow for large
messages. Regular email clients handle the creation and display of nested
quotations in an agreeable manner, which your formatting breaks. If you prefer
to use a word processor for composition, please begin a reply, copy
Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote:
The experts' outrage vanished that evening when Orville finally took to
the air. They were awestruck.
Because, once in the air, it no longer used the derrick. It was a matter of
duration. Similarly, if Rossi's device can take to the air, and stay
Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote:
retracted. About 150 groups investigated but found nothing.
450 publications about finding nothing? I've already given quotes showing
you are wrong.
I suggest you read the book by Felix Franks, Polywater, (MIT, 1981). I
have read it; you have not.
See:
Gernert, N. and R.M. Shaubach, *Nascent Hydrogen: An Energy Source*. 1993,
Department of the Air Force.
http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/GernertNnascenthyd.pdf
I confess, I probably just plain forget about this. People should remind me
if I forget to upload things. I am absent minded.
This
The quality is actually pretty good, but the file size is slightly larger.
I thought OCR would make a more compact file, but apparently not.
From: Jed Rothwell
See:
Gernert, N. and R.M. Shaubach, Nascent Hydrogen: An Energy Source. 1993,
Department of the Air Force.
At 11:27 AM 6/3/2011, Joshua Cude wrote:
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Jed Rothwell
mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.comjedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
The data clearly shows that some cells
produce heat after death, and other do not.
What does not make sense here is your demand that all cells do
At 11:27 AM 6/3/2011, Joshua Cude wrote:
Lomax referred to a specific experiment, and even a specific slide
from a presentation. This was held up as particularly good evidence for CF.
No, it was cited and discussed as a piece of evidence about the
nature of the Fleischmann-Pons Heat Effect
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
I thought OCR would make a more compact file, but apparently not.
This is an OCR layer added underneath an image file. The image file is
intact, so the whole thing is bigger.
This is a messy way to do things. To do it properly you dump the image of
the
On 3 Jun 2011, at 23:01, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
I thought OCR would make a more compact file, but apparently not.
This is an OCR layer added underneath an image file. The image file is
intact, so the whole thing is bigger.
This is a messy way to
In reply to OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson's message of Fri, 3 Jun 2011
07:43:13 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
From Jed:
That is WEIRD. What is the point of airing it? Did BLP pay for it?
I would speculate that BLP did indeed pay for the commercial. I have no
proof of that however. Who else would pay
A decade ago, when I searched on Calabi Yau manifolds, there was one
graphic which showed in google images. I found it impressive. Today,
there are hundreds of these fascinating graphics which attempt to
represent the 11 dimensional folding of space:
On 3 Jun 2011, at 19:55, Terry Blanton wrote:
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 9:40 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
You make a valid point. Perhaps it came from a Communication Art's
student completing a final class assignment on assembling a commercial
for a
Abd wrote a long comment which you should read anyway, even though it is
long and may have heard it before. Repeating a conclusion with variations is
boring but it is essential in a technical discipline. (Why do you they call
them disciplines?)
I have a few comments mainly about HAD. He wrote:
Say, Abd, Jed, and Joshua, I'd like to offer a path beyond the
lengthly 'Tis--Taint debate -- members of Vortex-L could plan and
carry out a simple, repeatable, low-cost LENR demonstration, including
standard kits (for which, except for deserving young students, could
be priced at $ 1,000, since
Robin,
your solution seems most likely, probably an orphaned url for a page that
didn't quite pass muster and then they forgot to take it down. If someone came
along and ran Site capture software on BLP's website it would download
everything including unlinked pages.
Fran
-Original
From Joshua:
From Steven V Johnson - OrionWorks
As a matter of principal, hiding behind a pseudo name
is not regarded in high esteem within this group list,
particularly when the poster posts copious quantities
of lengthy exposes that show a highly selective agenda:
From Joshua:
The
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 8:36 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
orionwo...@charter.net wrote:
The agenda is not selected by me. With a regrettable
exception or two (one in a rather orthogonal thread on
perpendicular fields), I have only *responded* to threads
with my name on them, in
If that is the case, then one would think that temperature is an important
variable...
-Mark
Yes it is. The product of the thermal frequency and the domain size
equals 1.094 million meters per second
Frank Znidarsic
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